Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?
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The creation itself bares record of the divine. We are left without excuse. Why would we wait until our last breath to confess God. We had our whole life to do so. But only God truly knows the heart. If they are only asking out of fear of death rather that true love for God, than I say not. Because it is Godly sorrow that works repentance.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
The bible NEVER tells us baptism is symbolic. This is what the bible tells us baptism is:
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
This is the Greek word used there for answer:
eperótéma: an inquiry, a demand
Original Word: ἐπερώτημα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: eperótéma
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-er-o'-tay-mah)
Definition: an inquiry, a demand
Usage: inquiry, request, appeal, demand; a profession, pledge.
Can you point to a passage where there is any other way to appeal to God for a good conscience? i.e. the "sinners prayer"
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
This is the Greek word used there for answer:
eperótéma: an inquiry, a demand
Original Word: ἐπερώτημα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: eperótéma
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-er-o'-tay-mah)
Definition: an inquiry, a demand
Usage: inquiry, request, appeal, demand; a profession, pledge.
Can you point to a passage where there is any other way to appeal to God for a good conscience? i.e. the "sinners prayer"
Peter uses the example of 8 souls being saved through water in the ark as an example of how baptism saves.
who once were disobedient when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. 21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
who once were disobedient when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. 21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
I'm sorry that is not totally correct. Yes, 100% it is the resurrection of Jesus. This passage tells us how we access the resurrection of Jesus.
He gives the example of people saved through water eight persons, were brought safely through the water.
Then he says those saved through water symbolizes baptism Corresponding to that, baptism
What does he say about baptism? baptism now saves you
If we take out the parenthetical expression, this is how the sentence reads.
Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, Baptism saves you through the resurrection of Jesus. That is what baptism does.
The parenthetical expression adds additional information to a sentence but is not part of the sentence. This additional information tells us how baptism does it.
not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience
He gives the example of people saved through water eight persons, were brought safely through the water.
Then he says those saved through water symbolizes baptism Corresponding to that, baptism
What does he say about baptism? baptism now saves you
If we take out the parenthetical expression, this is how the sentence reads.
Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, Baptism saves you through the resurrection of Jesus. That is what baptism does.
The parenthetical expression adds additional information to a sentence but is not part of the sentence. This additional information tells us how baptism does it.
not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience
I access the resurrection Like Jesus told me
Believe (have trust in him) and you will be saved
You do realize that the water was Gods judgment do you not?
The water did nto save them, It judged the world.
They were saved out of the water.
Just like we are saved out of Gods wrath by the ressurection of Christ.
if you want to know how. read John 3, 4, 5 and 6.
Believe (have trust in him) and you will be saved
You do realize that the water was Gods judgment do you not?
The water did nto save them, It judged the world.
They were saved out of the water.
Just like we are saved out of Gods wrath by the ressurection of Christ.
if you want to know how. read John 3, 4, 5 and 6.
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