Is Catholicism the Oldest Christian Faith?

[Jackson123]

The ex-priest had said in his Decemher, 1912, magazine, that
during the time he was on the inside of the Roman church he
had seen many such oaths, with the same murderous ideas and
the same barbarous language, and that it was not uncommon
for these helHsh oaths to be signed in the blood of those who took
them.

https://archive.org/stream/4thdegreeoathofk00wats/4thdegreeoathofk00wats_djvu.txt

 

[Athanasius377]

So you admit that knight of Columbus have that satanic oath
You have to Google what knight Columbus relate to vatican

This is one of hundred of the article how close vatican to kof C

http://www.kofc.org/en/news/releases/20101116VaticantvTruck.html

You think vatican don't know k of C oath but you know It?

Than you know more than vatican

My brother, jesuit have similar oath with k of C that is why vatican alley with k of C

Both of them are satanic and luciferian

I have huge problems with the whole RCC system. They teach false doctrine and the do their best to obfuscate the Gospel and subordinate the Scriptures to their system. That said, the jesuits are just a symptom of the larger issue in that Rome denies in the authority of Scripture. That said, this post has absolutely nothing to do with issue of whether the oath is really the Jesuit oath or not. And I bet what you didn't know either was that so called oath originates out of the Klu Klux Klan attemtps in the 19th century to subvert the orgianiztion

What do you mean by roman organization? Is koc part of rOman catholic church?

I deny that Rome is part of the church catholic (universal). Rome doesn’t have a monopoly on the term catholic. In fact to say something is Roman Catholic is a contradiction. I use the abbreviation RCC to differentiate between Rome and catholic orthodox and evangelical faith. If you read the earliest Christian writers catholic is the term you will see over and over again. Over and against heretical sects like Arians, sabellians, Nestorians. And the like.

 

[Athanasius377]

That is secret oath, of course you don't know It and catholic say It is forger.
And why vatican alley with koc when they know koc have satanic oath?
It make me believe jesuit oath is not forger

Do you read what president Abraham Lincoln say about jesuit?

Secret oaths are one of the reasons Rome ipso facto excommunicates RCCs who join the Masonic lodge. That said I have huge issues with the KoC but I have seen their oath (which is still problematic and was revised following Vatican II).

I don’t know what Lincoln said about the Jesuits. He would have known them as a castrated organization in his lifetime because they were suppressed in the later 1700’s. Furthermore given their denial of RCC doctrine in the modern era they are hardly the shock troops of the counter reformation they once were. More like a sad ultra progressive and dying sect within the Roman church.

 

[Athanasius377]

The ex-priest had said in his Decemher, 1912, magazine, that
during the time he was on the inside of the Roman church he
had seen many such oaths, with the same murderous ideas and
the same barbarous language, and that it was not uncommon
for these helHsh oaths to be signed in the blood of those who took
them.

https://archive.org/stream/4thdegreeoathofk00wats/4thdegreeoathofk00wats_djvu.txt

If you want to know what the greatest threat to the Christian faith it isn’t from the Jesuits. It biblical illiteracy. Recall the recent survey that found full 1/3 of so called evangelicals denied Jesus is God, the 2nd person of the holy trinity. That’s devastating imo.

 

[Jackson123]

I have huge problems with the whole RCC system. They teach false doctrine and the do their best to obfuscate the Gospel and subordinate the Scriptures to their system. That said, the jesuits are just a symptom of the larger issue in that Rome denies in the authority of Scripture. That said, this post has absolutely nothing to do with issue of whether the oath is really the Jesuit oath or not. And I bet what you didn't know either was that so called oath originates out of the Klu Klux Klan attemtps in the 19th century to subvert the orgianiztion

What I learn from some article is Yes the whole system of RCC is against the bible, but they hide It for public.
So they have 2 set of doctrine, for the public and for insider.
RCC is con artist.

 

[Jackson123]

If you want to know what the greatest threat to the Christian faith it isn’t from the Jesuits. It biblical illiteracy. Recall the recent survey that found full 1/3 of so called evangelicals denied Jesus is God, the 2nd person of the holy trinity. That’s devastating imo.

It may some evangelical Deny the Dirty of Christ, but they say It, So we know and If we not agree, don't associate with them, but RCC pretend to work for Jesus and their real boss is Lucifer, help him to promote one world government

 

[Benadam]

Do you believe Paul accept Jesus because natural reasoning or his super natural vision?

has nothing to do with my post.

After the coming of Christ, the knowledge of God as Creator is not enough. But the Jews and the Muslims were confronted with the fact that Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And both groups rejected that. Therefore there can be no "interfaith dialogue" unless it is a sham.

Indeed Mohammad was fully aware of the whole Bible. But he chose to pervert the truth. However Satan was actually behind the Koran.

You seem to be thinking in terms of salvation rather than the revelation of God. God can be found in the things He made and by natural reasoning. There will be those who say "God hasn't shown himself to me".

Paul says they didn't need a revelation from heaven to know and acknowledge God.

 

[Athanasius377]

What I learn from some article is Yes the whole system of RCC is against the bible, but they hide It for public.
So they have 2 set of doctrine, for the public and for insider.
RCC is con artist.

This is simply not true. I came out of the Roman church many years ago. I was a faithful everyday mass attending, weekly confession, scapular wearing RCC. And I didn't attend the happy clappy mass that is so prevalent today I attended the old Tridentine Latin mass. That said, they are quite upfront about their beliefs and make no attempt to hide them. Want to know what Rome teaches? Look it up in their catechism. There's no secret doctrine. Their public doctrine is problematic enough. What you may be detecting is that RCC's don't agree with each other on their own doctrine. So much for that whole unity thing they like to beat us over the head with.

A.

 

[garee]

This is simply not true. I came out of the Roman church many years ago. I was a faithful everyday mass attending, weekly confession, scapular wearing RCC. And I didn't attend the happy clappy mass that is so prevalent today I attended the old Tridentine Latin mass. That said, they are quite upfront about their beliefs and make no attempt to hide them. Want to know what Rome teaches? Look it up in their catechism. There's no secret doctrine. Their public doctrine is problematic enough. What you may be detecting is that RCC's don't agree with each other on their own doctrine. So much for that whole unity thing they like to beat us over the head with.

A.

Latin is a dead language why did it up ?

Catholicism simply have another authority other than the bible alone.(sola scriptura) It a law of the fathers (legion) makes the word of God to no effect. No man can serve two teaching masters . There must be differences between the sects and each individual. Not all heresies (sects) are damnable or judgeable.

But if they deny the grace of God, that heresy or opinion can be judged as those who have no light. Those who seek after workers with familiar spirits (patron saints 3500 and rising) rather than our unseen Holy Father in heaven .

It would appear the light of the gospel moved you out.

Its easy to see if we walk by faith as it is written (sola scriptura) . The queen they call must call Mary according to a law of the fathers Legion) is the only one that received the "fulness of the grace" of God. The rest of mankind a unknow remnant. And they added purgatory another unknown amount of time. The religion of mystical, wondering never coming to faith as it is written .

When Hilkiah found the Bible called the book of the law. The faith that came by hearing the word of God worked in King Josiah to both will and do the good pleasure of God . . . putting a end to that abomination of desolation , which does make the word of God desolate. In that way no man can serve two Devine teaching masters . Which they say in there book of the law of the fathers (CCC) . . you can

2 Kings 23:24 Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, (patron saints) and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.

Isaiah 8:19-20 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

 

[Dino246]

Latin is a dead language why did it up ?

Apparently, your reading comprehension in on the same level as your understanding of grammar. Athanasius says, "I attended the old Tridentine Latin mass". He had nothing to do with the church choosing to do its service in Latin. You're asking a completely irrelevant question. You also seem to be ignorant of the fact that, while Latin may not be the active language of any people group, learning it is still valuable in some circles.

 

[garee]

Apparently, your reading comprehension in on the same level as your understanding of grammar. Athanasius says, "I attended the old Tridentine Latin mass". He had nothing to do with the church choosing to do its service in Latin. You're asking a completely irrelevant question. You also seem to be ignorant of the fact that, while Latin may not be the active language of any people group, learning it is still valuable in some circles.

Yes, in a Catholic circle to give the illusion the reformation never came. They use dead things like the cadaver trial of Pope Formosa. Necromancy the foundation of Catholiscim .

Reminds me of a saying of my Dad. Your looking good whose your undertaker?

 

[Dino246]

Yes, in a Catholic circle to give the illusion the reformation never came. They use dead things like the cadaver trial of Pope Formosa. Necromancy the foundation of Catholiscim .

So the use of a "dead language" is to be compared to the use of a dead body?

 

[garee]

So the use of a "dead language" is to be compared to the use of a dead body?

Dead is dead. Dead people cannot hear.

 

[Dino246]

Dead is dead. Dead people cannot hear.

Again, how is this relevant to the use of a language? Biological death is quite thoroughly distinct from linguistic obsolescence. And why are you harping on someone for "digging up" a "dead language" when he did nothing of the sort?

 

[Jackson123]

This is simply not true. I came out of the Roman church many years ago. I was a faithful everyday mass attending, weekly confession, scapular wearing RCC. And I didn't attend the happy clappy mass that is so prevalent today I attended the old Tridentine Latin mass. That said, they are quite upfront about their beliefs and make no attempt to hide them. Want to know what Rome teaches? Look it up in their catechism. There's no secret doctrine. Their public doctrine is problematic enough. What you may be detecting is that RCC's don't agree with each other on their own doctrine. So much for that whole unity thing they like to beat us over the head with.

A.

And you are lay catholic, how you know the secret doctrine for high rank leader
I read and had posted some article from insider in my previous post. Even jesuit secret oath you don't know , because you not read testimonies some insider that left catholic.

 

[garee]

Again, how is this relevant to the use of a language? Biological death is quite thoroughly distinct from linguistic obsolescence. And why are you harping on someone for "digging up" a "dead language" when he did nothing of the sort?

I am not accusing him of digging it up .That's attributed to a law of the fathers the legion. Those who make prophecy without effect. I think to give the illusion the reformation never came. Same with the clothing and the smoke screen.

Why did Latin Become a Dead Language?

www.wisegeek.com/why-did-latin-become-a-dead...
Sep 04, 2020 · There are those who would suggest Latin is not dead, that it lives on in everyday language used by billions of people across the globe. Others argue that because there are routine updates to Latin published by the Roman Catholic Church, it is still alive and developing. Latin is still used as an official language in Vatican City

 

[Jackson123]

has nothing to do with my post.
You seem to be thinking in terms of salvation rather than the revelation of God. God can be found in the things He made and by natural reasoning. There will be those who say "God hasn't shown himself to me".

Paul says they didn't need a revelation from heaven to know and acknowledge God.

Read the context
Paul talking about people that never hear gospel Will be judge base of their conscience

 

[garee]

And you are lay catholic, how you know the secret doctrine for high rank leader
I read and had posted some article from insider in my previous post. Even jesuit secret oath you don't know , because you not read testimonies some insider that left catholic.

Its no secret. They have another teaching authority other than the Bible. No man can serve two teachings masters of one Devine God. They say you can. What do you think ? .

 

[Dino246]

I am not accusing him of digging it up .

Really? I beg to differ. Here is your question to him:

Latin is a dead language why did it up ?

 

[Benadam]

Read the context
Paul talking about people that never hear gospel Will be judge base of their conscience

And that means if God is known as creator, nothing more is known, that is the same God we believe in. They wouldn't be guilty of rejecting God otherwise