Is Catholocism bad?

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Actually all you need to do is look in the Catholic Encyclopaedia under worship and its place in the Catholic Church. Here is a excerpt.

In accordance with these principles it will readily be understood that a certain worship may be offered even to inanimate objects, such as the relics ,of a martyr , the Cross of Christ ,the Crown of Thorns, or even the statues ,or picture of a saint.

They go through great expense to excuse this by redefining worship They in lawyer type fashion break worship down into to three different types ,but it all comes down to one thing . Do we worship The Creator or the creation?
Blessings
Bill
That reminds me of Nehushtan, the bronze snake that God commanded Moses to make in the wilderness.
It later became an idol. Hezekiah destroyed it along with the sacred stones and Asherah poles of Israel.

John 3:14
Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,

Numbers 21:9
So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

2 Kings 18:4
He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan.)
 

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We had a job today and as my husband worked i had opp. to talk to a dear lady at her home...her and i were talking about things of God...i told her we were born-again Christians, Jesus is our Lord and savior we are people of faith...she kindly said i do not know what that means, she did not understand...as her eye were blank and she did not have ears to hear Gods truth, yet she proclaimed (the priest as father) she called him and talked about him with great adoration and almost like worship...she is a sweet beautiful gal...yet she is lost...she could not see...yet i pray God opens her eyes and ears that she comes to repentance and salvation in Jesus Christ only...love in Christ Sherril...
Please add my prayer to yours for the salvation of the dear lady you talked to. Please remember that the Word of God is never returned void so something spiritually good will happen.
 

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Catholic say, without catholic we do nonton have bible. It mean they believe. They produce bible, not Gid.

So catholic try to put themselve above God catholic determined bible not God. That is why pope have authority to make new doctrine
http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-x...-xii_apc_19501101_munificentissimus-deus.html


https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...-God-Catholic-scripture-religion-christianity


This is pure satanic, try to be God.

Lucifer also try to be God. There is similarity between Lucifer agenda and catholic agenda. So Lucifer must behind catholic.
 

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  • That reminds me of Nehushtan, the bronze snake that God commanded Moses to make in the wilderness.
    It later became an idol. Hezekiah destroyed it along with the sacred stones and Asherah poles of Israel.

    John 3:14
    Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,

    Numbers 21:9
    So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

    2 Kings 18:4
    He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan.)
  • Yea I see your connection there , but that happened in the Old Testament.Meaning the Church had ample warning. Don’t do it.Scripture warns us time and time again. Now when they elevate tradition to be on par to scripture ie abandoning the concept of sola scriptura you wind up with the Catholic concept of worship. This includes diverting worship only due to God to the created
    Blessings
    Bill

 

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These are the Church Fathers describing the heretics of the day. Did you see the dates on those quotes, Protestants didn't exist.

Dates have no bearing on the hearing of faith. When God bestowed grace of Abel it indicated he heard and believed God as one of the many lively stones that makes up the spiritual house of God, the church..


Those church fathers as a law of the fathers had a false zeal for knowing God unseen. They used their own private interpretations as personal commentaries as a tool to call the Protestants private interpretations heretics . But damnable or judgeable heresies coming from private interpretation, deny the fulness of grace of Christ. A Catholic teaching that Christ offered and unknow remnant of grace, save the queen of heaven, and all others must make up for the suffering that they teach was lacking of Christ in a place called purgatory .
 

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A Lot of clue who is catholic

She promote one world government, It is Clear she work for lucifer

She creat a Lot of new doctrine that are against God, Lie Mary never sin, Lie Mary assumption and a Lot more

God love her member, God want them to run away from her, she Will bring you to hell.

Do research, how she murder millions, how she prepare for the antichrist government, before to late, Nothing to lose, do serouus investigation for your own salvation, do not let Lucifer own you, run from Lucifer religion, run to Jesus,

Use you Logic, how real God servant promote antichrist government?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/25/the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/
 

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A Lot of clue who is catholic

She promote one world government, It is Clear she work for lucifer

She creat a Lot of new doctrine that are against God, Lie Mary never sin, Lie Mary assumption and a Lot more

God love her member, God want them to run away from her, she Will bring you to hell.

Do research, how she murder millions, how she prepare for the antichrist government, before to late, Nothing to lose, do serouus investigation for your own salvation, do not let Lucifer own you, run from Lucifer religion, run to Jesus,

Use you Logic, how real God servant promote antichrist government?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/25/the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/
That is an interesting article. Thanks for the link.
Written by a Catholic too.
 

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That is an interesting article. Thanks for the link.
Written by a Catholic too.
You welcome.

Now I read something wear from pope francus.

https://laudatosi.com/

ENCYCLICAL LETTER
LAUDATO SI’
OF THE HOLY FATHER
FRANCIS
ON CARE FOR OUR COMMON HOME


This is from chapter 2/87


Praised be you, my Lord, with all your creatures,
especially Sir Brother Sun,
who is the day and through whom you give us light.
And he is beautiful and radiant with great splendour;
and bears a likeness of you, Most High.
Praised be you, my Lord, through Sister Moon and the stars,
in heaven you formed them clear and precious and beautiful.
Praised be you, my Lord, through Brother Wind,
and through the air, cloudy and serene, and every kind of weather
through whom you give sustenance to your creatures.
Praised be you, my Lord, through Sister Water,
who is very useful and humble and precious and chaste.
Praised be you, my Lord, through Brother Fire,
through whom you light the night,
and he is beautiful and playful and robust and strong”.[64]

Look what pope say, praise be to you Lord with all your creature

So not only praise or worship Lord alone, but also worship His creature.

Worship brother sun

This is pantheism I Google definition of pantheism

pan·the·ism
/ˈpanTHēˌizəm/
noun
noun: pantheism
  1. 1.
    a doctrine which identifies God with the universe, or regards the universe as a manifestation of God.
  2. 2.
    worship that admits or tolerates all gods.
Look what he say about moon, pope praise or worship God through sister moon

In other word, when pope worship moon, he worship God.

No wonder he worship statue, It because when he worship God through statue.

My catholic brother and sister, what prove you need to make you convince that this religion is satanic. Let me know why you do not believe this is satanic and against God teaching?

For your own salvation, let us talk, what make you believe when you worship sister moon mean worship God, tell me a verse in the bible that say by worship sister moon you worship God.

Why you leader call moon sister? Is moon woman? Is moon has gender?


https://www.ancient-origins.net/opi...te-mary-magdalene-moon-goddess-part-ii-005460

Mary was moon godes.

They change moon godes to Mary, No wonder they pray to Mary.

Pure satanic
 

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I have a friend who is a born again Christian. She was a teaching
assistance in a catholic school. Over in the UK we have quite a good
number of Catholic and Church of England schools.

They run the same as any other school but they they have school assemblies
based on the belief and also have holy communion. Plus visits by priests etc.

She was telling me about the catholic school she worked in. That they had
Communion every week all the pupils etc where a priest visited the school.

But at Easter the kids had a day trip out to the local Catholic Church and they
had an Easter Service and communion there.

What is staggering is that my friend who is a born again Christian, was never allowed
to have the holy communion because she was not a catholic. But any catholic kids
and other staff could take if they were born into a catholic family. Even if they didn’t
even believe in God!

Also she said they thought the bread and wine actually turned into the blood and
body of Jesus when the priest prayed over it. (so she didn’t want it anyway).
In essence they were promoting a type of cannibalism.
 

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I have a friend who is a born again Christian. She was a teaching
assistance in a catholic school. Over in the UK we have quite a good
number of Catholic and Church of England schools.

They run the same as any other school but they they have school assemblies
based on the belief and also have holy communion. Plus visits by priests etc.

She was telling me about the catholic school she worked in. That they had
Communion every week all the pupils etc where a priest visited the school.

But at Easter the kids had a day trip out to the local Catholic Church and they
had an Easter Service and communion there.

What is staggering is that my friend who is a born again Christian, was never allowed
to have the holy communion because she was not a catholic. But any catholic kids
and other staff could take if they were born into a catholic family. Even if they didn’t
even believe in God!

Also she said they thought the bread and wine actually turned into the blood and
body of Jesus when the priest prayed over it. (so she didn’t want it anyway).
In essence they were promoting a type of cannibalism.
That is good so your friend not united with them to do ritual to worship sun God.
 

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Praise be the Lord with all His creation.

Don't you know Lucifer is also His creation?

Praise be the Lord with Lucifer

Praise the Lord and praise be Lucifer.

What else must be proven. Is any intelligent person do not know catholic praise Lucifer?
 

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In essence they were promoting a type of cannibalism.
What do you make of this?

John 6:53-55
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
 

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Praise be the Lord with all His creation.

Don't you know Lucifer is also His creation?

Praise be the Lord with Lucifer

Praise the Lord and praise be Lucifer.

What else must be proven. Is any intelligent person do not know catholic praise Lucifer?
I think you a reading too much into this. What do you make of this?

All Creatures of Our God and King
David Crowder Band

All creatures of our God and King
Lift up your voice and with us sing
Oh, praise Him!
Alleluia!

Thou burning sun with golden beam
Thou silver moon with softer gleam
Oh, praise Him!
Oh, praise Him!
Alleluia!
Alleluia!
Alleluia!

Songwriters: FRANCESCO ASSISI, GEORGE MCBETH MCPHEE
© CAPITOL CHRISTIAN MUSIC GROUP


All of Creation
MercyMe

Separated until the veil was torn
The moment that hope was born
And guilt was pardoned once and for all

Captivated but no longer bound by chains
Left at an empty grave
The sinner and the sacred resolved

And all of creation sing with me now
Lift up your voice and lay your burden down
And all of creation sing with me now
Fill up the heavens let his glory resound

Songwriters: Barry Graul, Bart Millard, Brown Bannister, Daniel John Muckala, Jim Bryson, Mike Scheuchzer, Nathan Cochran, Robby Shaffer
© Kobalt Music Publishing Ltd., MUSIC SERVICES, INC.
 

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I think you a reading too much into this. What do you make of this?

All Creatures of Our God and King
David Crowder Band

All creatures of our God and King
Lift up your voice and with us sing
Oh, praise Him!
Alleluia!

Thou burning sun with golden beam
Thou silver moon with softer gleam
Oh, praise Him!
Oh, praise Him!
Alleluia!
Alleluia!
Alleluia!

Songwriters: FRANCESCO ASSISI, GEORGE MCBETH MCPHEE
© CAPITOL CHRISTIAN MUSIC GROUP


All of Creation
MercyMe

Separated until the veil was torn
The moment that hope was born
And guilt was pardoned once and for all

Captivated but no longer bound by chains
Left at an empty grave
The sinner and the sacred resolved

And all of creation sing with me now
Lift up your voice and lay your burden down
And all of creation sing with me now
Fill up the heavens let his glory resound

Songwriters: Barry Graul, Bart Millard, Brown Bannister, Daniel John Muckala, Jim Bryson, Mike Scheuchzer, Nathan Cochran, Robby Shaffer
© Kobalt Music Publishing Ltd., MUSIC SERVICES, INC.
This has different meaning with what pope teach

This gentelmen invite All creation of God to sing for god.

Pope teach to praise God and all His creation.

This song > all praise god

Pope > praise God with all creation. Include brother sun, sister moon

You can praise God through sister moon, mean when you praise sister moon, automatically you praise God.
 

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What do you make of this?

John 6:53-55
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
This is figurative. In the last supper Jesus break the bread , not Cut His hand, they drink wine not real blood from His hand.
 

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This is figurative. In the last supper Jesus break the bread , not Cut His hand, they drink wine not real blood from His hand.
Yes, of course.
But if we asked the Catholic Church if the doctrine of transubstantiation (the bread and wine becoming the actual flesh and blood of Christ) is biblical, they would point to this scripture.
I'm not saying I agree, but they would claim both biblical and traditional authority to do so.
 

Jackson123

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Yes, of course.
But if we asked the Catholic Church if the doctrine of transubstantiation (the bread and wine becoming the actual flesh and blood of Christ) is biblical, they would point to this scripture.
I'm not saying I agree, but they would claim both biblical and traditional authority to do so.
Bread is symbol of Jesus flesh, do not need to change to real flesh, Eat Jesus flesh and drink Jesus blood, is a symbol of follow Him. Invite Him in to our heart.

They believe as son as you Eat altar bread in ritual eucharist, they have few minute to ask anything to God, while Jesus flesh in you. Do not chew, to chew altar bread mean chew Jesus. If the bread fall oN the floor, carefull, treat It with respect, because It is Jesus. This bread turn to Jesus.

Totally different concept, It is pagan concept, not bible concept.
 

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Yes, of course.
But if we asked the Catholic Church if the doctrine of transubstantiation (the bread and wine becoming the actual flesh and blood of Christ) is biblical, they would point to this scripture.
I'm not saying I agree, but they would claim both biblical and traditional authority to do so.
That’s because many Catholics don’t actually read the bible for themselves , they just
repeat parrot fashion what they are taught. Many just rely on a priest to tell them
what’s in the bible and tell them what they should believe. God never told His people
to be cannibals!