Is Catholocism bad?
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What is "implied" by the gift of prophecy in the NT?
1 Corinthians 14:39
Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.
Acts 2:17
“‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
1 Corinthians 1:7
Therefore you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed.
1 Corinthians 14:39
Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.
Acts 2:17
“‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
1 Corinthians 1:7
Therefore you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed.
One thing that is not implied is that it must not do is change ,damage or do violence to scripture.
That’s why the reformers and many other before them had said things like or similar to sola scriptura.
2nd Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
2nd Timothy 4:1 I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
So what ever is believed about prophecy it must be validated by scripture.
Also Jesus had this to say
Mathew 7: 21”Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22”Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23” And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’
Yea there will be folks saying they had prophetic knowledge but some are not going to be the genuine thing . Where are we to go to in order to test their words. Yea scripture.
End of story.
Blessings
Bill
That’s why the reformers and many other before them had said things like or similar to sola scriptura.
2nd Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
2nd Timothy 4:1 I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
So what ever is believed about prophecy it must be validated by scripture.
Also Jesus had this to say
Mathew 7: 21”Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22”Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23” And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’
Yea there will be folks saying they had prophetic knowledge but some are not going to be the genuine thing . Where are we to go to in order to test their words. Yea scripture.
End of story.
Blessings
Bill
Sketch some non Catholic Christian folks do not trace their religious beliefs through the reformation.
So they don’t believe they are Protestants . You know protesting the Catholic Church. They believe they or their denomination were never Catholic. Many Baptist feel this way . Just to name one off the top of my head . It’s a really small thing to disagree about. Too many arguments with so little profit for either side of the debate
Blessings
Bill
So they don’t believe they are Protestants . You know protesting the Catholic Church. They believe they or their denomination were never Catholic. Many Baptist feel this way . Just to name one off the top of my head . It’s a really small thing to disagree about. Too many arguments with so little profit for either side of the debate
Blessings
Bill
Yea but praying to saints attributes qualities of God to a created being . How can a saint hear millions of prayers are the omnipresent? Can a saint increase God’s sympathy for the one who is praying? Who understands man better than God . Also can a saint hear silent prayer? Only God know a man’s heart.
Too much attributed to the creation that belongs to God alone .
Blessings
Bill
Too much attributed to the creation that belongs to God alone .
Blessings
Bill
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Right. I don't recommend anyone pray to Saints. Just to be clear.
And actually Catholics deny doing such. They claim to be sending a message through them. Claiming that God answers their prayers, not the Saints. But then if you go on their forums they will tell you which Saint to pray to if you lose your car keys. Because "... it really works." (they are so busted)
And actually Catholics deny doing such. They claim to be sending a message through them. Claiming that God answers their prayers, not the Saints. But then if you go on their forums they will tell you which Saint to pray to if you lose your car keys. Because "... it really works." (they are so busted)
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Let make It simple brother God say not bow to Gravenn image. Catholic bow to Graben image, like satanic religion.
When peter alive, Cornelius bow to him, and he forbid It. Now in one of catholic church in Surabaya ( the name of the city in Indonesia) people pray infront of Peter statue an bow, and you say It is not satanic?
When peter alive, Cornelius bow to him, and he forbid It. Now in one of catholic church in Surabaya ( the name of the city in Indonesia) people pray infront of Peter statue an bow, and you say It is not satanic?
Actually all you need to do is look in the Catholic Encyclopaedia under worship and its place in the Catholic Church. Here is a excerpt.
In accordance with these principles it will readily be understood that a certain worship may be offered even to inanimate objects, such as the relics ,of a martyr , the Cross of Christ ,the Crown of Thorns, or even the statues ,or picture of a saint.
They go through great expense to excuse this by redefining worship They in lawyer type fashion break worship down into to three different types ,but it all comes down to one thing . Do we worship The Creator or the creation?
Blessings
Bill
In accordance with these principles it will readily be understood that a certain worship may be offered even to inanimate objects, such as the relics ,of a martyr , the Cross of Christ ,the Crown of Thorns, or even the statues ,or picture of a saint.
They go through great expense to excuse this by redefining worship They in lawyer type fashion break worship down into to three different types ,but it all comes down to one thing . Do we worship The Creator or the creation?
Blessings
Bill
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