Is Christian Metal bad?
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i don't know if i'd go so far as to say repetitive "lyrics" are evil (the metal noise offered to God as a gift prolly is).
repetitive prayers are something which doesn't impress God.
*shrug* if you think it's ok, that's all that matters, right?
Matthew 6:7
But when you pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Use not vain repetitions - Μη βαττολογησητε, Suidas explains this word well: "πολυλογια, much speaking, from one Battus, who made very prolix hymns, in which the same idea frequently recurred." "A frequent repetition of awful and striking words may often be the result of earnestness and fervor. See Daniel 9:3-20; but great length of prayer, which will of course involve much sameness and idle repetition, naturally creates fatigue and carelessness in the worshipper, and seems to suppose ignorance or inattention in the Deity; a fault against which our Lord more particularly wishes to secure them." See Matthew 6:8.
.....It is abominable, says the Hedayah, that a person offering up prayers to God, should say, "I beseech thee, by the glory of thy heavens!" or, "by the splendor of thy throne!" for a style of this nature would lead to suspect that the Almighty derived glory from the heavens; whereas the heavens are created, but God with all his attributes is eternal and inimitable. Hedayah, vol. iv. p. 121.
This is the sentiment of a Mohammedan; and yet for this vain repetition the Mohammedans are peculiarly remarkable; they often use such words as the following: -
O God, O God, O God, O God! -
O Lord, O Lord, O Lord, O Lord! -
O living, O immortal, O living, O immortal,
O living, O immortal, O living, O immortal! -
O Creator of the heavens and the earth! -
O thou who art endowed with majesty and authority! O wonderful, etc.
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Use vain repetitions (βατταλογήσητε
A word formed in imitation of the sound, battalogein: properly, to stammer; then to babble or prate, to repeat the same formula many times, as the worshippers of Baal and of Diana of Ephesus (1 Kings 18:26; Acts 19:34) and the Romanists with their paternosters and aves.
The heathen do - The original word is that which is commonly translated "Gentile." The world was divided into two parts, the Jews and the Gentiles; that is, in the original, the "nations," the nations destitute of the true religion. Christ does not fix the length of our prayers. He says that we should not repeat the same thing, as though God did not hear; and it is not improbable that he intended to condemn the practice of long prayers. His own supplications were remarkably short.
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World English Dictionary
trance (trɑːns) — n
1. a hypnotic state resembling sleep
2. any mental state in which a person is unaware or apparently unaware of the environment, characterized by loss of voluntary movement, rigidity, and lack of sensitivity to external stimuli
3. a dazed or stunned state
4. a state of ecstasy or mystic absorption so intense as to cause a temporary loss of consciousness at the earthly level
5. spiritualism a state in which a medium, having temporarily lost consciousness, can supposedly be controlled by an intelligence from without as a means of communication with the dead
6. a type of electronic dance music with repetitive rhythms, aiming at a hypnotic effect
— vb 7. ( tr ) to put into or as into a trance [C14: from Old French transe , from transir to faint, pass away, from Latin trānsīre to go over, from trans- + īre to go] 'trancelike — adj
repetitive prayers are something which doesn't impress God.
*shrug* if you think it's ok, that's all that matters, right?
Matthew 6:7
But when you pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Use not vain repetitions - Μη βαττολογησητε, Suidas explains this word well: "πολυλογια, much speaking, from one Battus, who made very prolix hymns, in which the same idea frequently recurred." "A frequent repetition of awful and striking words may often be the result of earnestness and fervor. See Daniel 9:3-20; but great length of prayer, which will of course involve much sameness and idle repetition, naturally creates fatigue and carelessness in the worshipper, and seems to suppose ignorance or inattention in the Deity; a fault against which our Lord more particularly wishes to secure them." See Matthew 6:8.
.....It is abominable, says the Hedayah, that a person offering up prayers to God, should say, "I beseech thee, by the glory of thy heavens!" or, "by the splendor of thy throne!" for a style of this nature would lead to suspect that the Almighty derived glory from the heavens; whereas the heavens are created, but God with all his attributes is eternal and inimitable. Hedayah, vol. iv. p. 121.
This is the sentiment of a Mohammedan; and yet for this vain repetition the Mohammedans are peculiarly remarkable; they often use such words as the following: -
O God, O God, O God, O God! -
O Lord, O Lord, O Lord, O Lord! -
O living, O immortal, O living, O immortal,
O living, O immortal, O living, O immortal! -
O Creator of the heavens and the earth! -
O thou who art endowed with majesty and authority! O wonderful, etc.
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Use vain repetitions (βατταλογήσητε
A word formed in imitation of the sound, battalogein: properly, to stammer; then to babble or prate, to repeat the same formula many times, as the worshippers of Baal and of Diana of Ephesus (1 Kings 18:26; Acts 19:34) and the Romanists with their paternosters and aves. The heathen do - The original word is that which is commonly translated "Gentile." The world was divided into two parts, the Jews and the Gentiles; that is, in the original, the "nations," the nations destitute of the true religion. Christ does not fix the length of our prayers. He says that we should not repeat the same thing, as though God did not hear; and it is not improbable that he intended to condemn the practice of long prayers. His own supplications were remarkably short.
~
World English Dictionary
trance (trɑːns) — n
1. a hypnotic state resembling sleep
2. any mental state in which a person is unaware or apparently unaware of the environment, characterized by loss of voluntary movement, rigidity, and lack of sensitivity to external stimuli
3. a dazed or stunned state
4. a state of ecstasy or mystic absorption so intense as to cause a temporary loss of consciousness at the earthly level
5. spiritualism a state in which a medium, having temporarily lost consciousness, can supposedly be controlled by an intelligence from without as a means of communication with the dead
6. a type of electronic dance music with repetitive rhythms, aiming at a hypnotic effect
— vb 7. ( tr ) to put into or as into a trance [C14: from Old French transe , from transir to faint, pass away, from Latin trānsīre to go over, from trans- + īre to go] 'trancelike — adj
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*yawn*
i don't care what you listen to....and i don't care whether you ever get around to learning anything. but i'll respond to your post since i have a few moments.
anti-semitic rantings
antisemitic? i love the semitic peoples (not happy about the deeds of the ones involved in 'antichrist 'conspiracies')
In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם‎, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ‎ was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Akkadian, Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya among others.
^^^ deposit ignorant pavlovian accusation here^^
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X topic is actually some sort of conspiracy
con·spir·a·cy
noun \kən-ˈspir-ə-sē\
plural con·spir·a·cies
Definition of CONSPIRACY
1
: the act of conspiring together
2
a : an agreement among conspirators b : a group of conspirators
oh that NEVER happens! two or more people conspire to do something *gasp*
didn't them A-rabs conspire to use box-cutters to cripple USA! USA!? nah.
believing that would make you a conspiracy nut.
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various groups for the jews to behead christians with some stupid noahide laws or something else
the bad guys are from every kindred tongue and nation (and so are Christ's redeemed...OH RLY??)
The SANHEDRIN
Jerusalem Court for Issues of Bnei Noah
http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Jerusalem_Court_for_Issues_of_Bnei_Noah
What are the Seven Laws?
Q. What are the Seven Laws?
What exactly are the Torah sources for the seven laws? In what manner are non-Jews obligated by these verses in the Torah? (Oral tradition? Rabbinic teaching? Reading the Torah directly? etc)
Answer. The "Seven" laws, as has been well documented, do not cover all the requirements, as the Talmud explains after briniging the source which lists the seven. There the Talmud explains that the list does not contain the positive requirements. The source is Oral Tradition. As in many other cases, there is some disagreement about exactly which are the negative precepts which apply to Bnei Noah.
The summary of the Rambam is: Prohibition of: Idolatry, Blasphemy, Murder, Certain prohibition on Sexual Intercourse, Theft, and Social Order supported by Rule of Law (in Kings 10,11 the Rambam says that "Bet Din of Israel should judge the Naohides or appoint Noahide Judges), and Ever Min HaHai: eating flesh which was cut from a live animal. [Kings, 9,1] In addition the Rambam lists the prohibition of Kilayim [Kings, 10,6]
http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Psak_5767_Tevet_6c
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Universal Theocratic Law for Non-Jews
(620 commandments)
Law # 7 - Courts for non-jews:
+226)
To execute certain transgressors by the sword
Commandment Profile:
+226) To execute certain transgressors by the sword
Application to gentiles : Required
Mandated punishment for violation: From Heaven, at minimum
Brief description:
To execute by decapitation those who are convicted of committing certain sins. The procedure of decapitation is usually carried out by the sword. This penalty is carried out by Jewish courts for particular sins, whereas it is the only method of capital punishment carried out by gentile theocratic courts, regardless of the crime under the Noahide Laws.
Category:Justice Commandments
Biblical source(s) (Rambam): Ex. 21:20 Biblical source (Sefer HaChinuch): Ex. 21:20 Number in Sefer HaChinuch:50 Sources explaining relevance to gentiles:
(See bibliography)
Revelation 20:4
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God.
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The Seven Laws of Noah
Main article: Seven Laws of Noah
The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are[3]
have a nice time denying reality.
it works....for awhile.
i don't care what you listen to....and i don't care whether you ever get around to learning anything. but i'll respond to your post since i have a few moments.
anti-semitic rantings
antisemitic? i love the semitic peoples (not happy about the deeds of the ones involved in 'antichrist 'conspiracies')
In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם‎, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ‎
was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Akkadian, Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya among others.
^^^ deposit ignorant pavlovian accusation here^^
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X topic is actually some sort of conspiracy
con·spir·a·cy
noun \kən-ˈspir-ə-sē\
plural con·spir·a·cies
Definition of CONSPIRACY
1
: the act of conspiring together
2
a : an agreement among conspirators b : a group of conspirators
oh that NEVER happens! two or more people conspire to do something *gasp*
didn't them A-rabs conspire to use box-cutters to cripple USA! USA!? nah.
believing that would make you a conspiracy nut.
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various groups for the jews to behead christians with some stupid noahide laws or something else
the bad guys are from every kindred tongue and nation (and so are Christ's redeemed...OH RLY??)
The SANHEDRIN
Jerusalem Court for Issues of Bnei Noah
http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Jerusalem_Court_for_Issues_of_Bnei_Noah
What are the Seven Laws?
Q. What are the Seven Laws?
What exactly are the Torah sources for the seven laws? In what manner are non-Jews obligated by these verses in the Torah? (Oral tradition? Rabbinic teaching? Reading the Torah directly? etc)
Answer. The "Seven" laws, as has been well documented, do not cover all the requirements, as the Talmud explains after briniging the source which lists the seven. There the Talmud explains that the list does not contain the positive requirements. The source is Oral Tradition. As in many other cases, there is some disagreement about exactly which are the negative precepts which apply to Bnei Noah.
The summary of the Rambam is: Prohibition of: Idolatry, Blasphemy, Murder, Certain prohibition on Sexual Intercourse, Theft, and Social Order supported by Rule of Law (in Kings 10,11 the Rambam says that "Bet Din of Israel should judge the Naohides or appoint Noahide Judges), and Ever Min HaHai: eating flesh which was cut from a live animal. [Kings, 9,1] In addition the Rambam lists the prohibition of Kilayim [Kings, 10,6]
http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Psak_5767_Tevet_6c
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Universal Theocratic Law for Non-Jews
(620 commandments)
Law # 7 - Courts for non-jews:
+226)
To execute certain transgressors by the sword
Commandment Profile:
+226) To execute certain transgressors by the sword
Application to gentiles : Required
Mandated punishment for violation: From Heaven, at minimum
Brief description:
To execute by decapitation those who are convicted of committing certain sins. The procedure of decapitation is usually carried out by the sword. This penalty is carried out by Jewish courts for particular sins, whereas it is the only method of capital punishment carried out by gentile theocratic courts, regardless of the crime under the Noahide Laws.
Category:Justice Commandments
Biblical source(s) (Rambam): Ex. 21:20 Biblical source (Sefer HaChinuch): Ex. 21:20 Number in Sefer HaChinuch:50 Sources explaining relevance to gentiles:
(See bibliography)
- Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Melachim 9:14
Under the Noachide Laws, execution is only by decapitation by the sword.-
[*]Talmud Bavli, Sanhedrin 57b
Tanna d’vei Menasheh holds that gentile execution is by strangulation, not decapitation (the opinion of R. Yishmael); this opinion interprets a Torah verse (Gen. 9:6) in such a way as also to permit abortions to gentiles (the two opinions being intrinsically linked). -
[*]Tosafos, Talmud Bavli, Sanhedrin 59a (“Leika mida’am…”)
The Tosafos accept the ruling (of R. Yishmael) that abortion is forbidden to gentiles as being murder (thus implicitly also accepting the opinion of R. Yishmael that gentile death penalty is by decapitation). -
[*]Kesef Mishnah on Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Melachim 9:14
Agrees with Rambam’s ruling on decapitation vs. strangulation, citing passages in the Gemara in which the ruling is the same.
Revelation 20:4
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God.
~
The Seven Laws of Noah
Main article: Seven Laws of Noah
The seven laws listed by the Tosefta and the Talmud are[3]
- Prohibition of Idolatry: You shall not have any idols before God.
- Prohibition of Murder: You shall not murder. (Genesis 9:6)
- Prohibition of Theft: You shall not steal.
- Prohibition of Sexual immorality: You shall not commit any of a series of sexual prohibitions, which include adultery, incest, anal intercourse between men and bestiality.
- Prohibition of Blasphemy: You shall not blaspheme God's name.
- Dietary Law: Do not eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive. (Genesis 9:4, as interpreted in the Talmud (Sanhedrin 59a))
- Requirement to have just Laws: Set up a governing body of law (e.g. Courts)
have a nice time denying reality.
it works....for awhile.
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Jullianna:
is everything man chooses to do acceptable to God, particularly if we approach Him in a church environment and call it worship because "He sees the heart?" - which according to scripture is wicked and can't be trusted)?
maybe you're suggesting squealing guitars and booming drums in church "go into" a man (via the ears) and so don't defile.
is that true of watching pornography or gratuitous violence too? after all, that's "going in" through the eyes, right?
just want to clarify your position.
is everything man chooses to do acceptable to God, particularly if we approach Him in a church environment and call it worship because "He sees the heart?" - which according to scripture is wicked and can't be trusted)?
maybe you're suggesting squealing guitars and booming drums in church "go into" a man (via the ears) and so don't defile.
is that true of watching pornography or gratuitous violence too? after all, that's "going in" through the eyes, right?
just want to clarify your position.
[/quote]is everything man chooses to do acceptable to God, particularly if we approach Him in a church environment and call it worship because "He sees the heart?" - which according to scripture is wicked and can't be trusted)?
maybe you're suggesting squealing guitars and booming drums in church "go into" a man (via the ears) and so don't defile.
is that true of watching pornography or gratuitous violence too? after all, that's "going in" through the eyes, right?
just want to clarify your position.[/quote]
The problem with your argument is that metal is far more than just banging drums and squealing guitar. You will go into a vicious cycle with your argument until the day that you realize that Christian metal has been, is being, and will be used by God.
I invite you to listen to this song and to read the lyrics. This song speaks about focusing on the narrow road, and to understand that we can't rely on our understanding. I share it because it has produced fruit in me, I never share anything that hasn't.
YouTube - ‪The Sound Of Truth‬‏
maybe you're suggesting squealing guitars and booming drums in church "go into" a man (via the ears) and so don't defile.
is that true of watching pornography or gratuitous violence too? after all, that's "going in" through the eyes, right?
just want to clarify your position.[/quote]
The problem with your argument is that metal is far more than just banging drums and squealing guitar. You will go into a vicious cycle with your argument until the day that you realize that Christian metal has been, is being, and will be used by God.
I invite you to listen to this song and to read the lyrics. This song speaks about focusing on the narrow road, and to understand that we can't rely on our understanding. I share it because it has produced fruit in me, I never share anything that hasn't.
YouTube - ‪The Sound Of Truth‬‏
so basically He doesn't care one way or the other.
Revelation 4
The Throne in Heaven
1After this I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven! And the first voice, which I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet, said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2At once I was in the Spirit, and behold, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne. 3And he who sat there had the appearance of jasper and carnelian, and around the throne was a rainbow that had the appearance of an emerald. 4Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and seated on the thrones were twenty-four elders, clothed in white garments, with golden crowns on their heads. 5From the throne came flashes of lightning, and rumblingsa and peals of thunder, and before the throne were burning seven torches of fire, which are the seven spirits of God, 6and before the throne there was as it were a sea of glass, like crystal.
And around the throne, on each side of the throne, are four living creatures, full of eyes in front and behind: 7the first living creature like a lion, the second living creature like an ox, the third living creature with the face of a man, and the fourth living creature like an eagle in flight. 8And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all around and within, and day and night they never cease to say,
“Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty,
who was and is and is to come!”
9And whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to him who is seated on the throne, who lives forever and ever, 10the twenty-four elders fall down before him who is seated on the throne and worship him who lives forever and ever. They cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11 “Worthy are you, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they existed and were created.”
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nothing there about hard rock angels tuning up and getting ready for the big show.
Revelation 4
The Throne in Heaven
1After this I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven! And the first voice, which I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet, said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2At once I was in the Spirit, and behold, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne. 3And he who sat there had the appearance of jasper and carnelian, and around the throne was a rainbow that had the appearance of an emerald. 4Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and seated on the thrones were twenty-four elders, clothed in white garments, with golden crowns on their heads. 5From the throne came flashes of lightning, and rumblingsa and peals of thunder, and before the throne were burning seven torches of fire, which are the seven spirits of God, 6and before the throne there was as it were a sea of glass, like crystal.
And around the throne, on each side of the throne, are four living creatures, full of eyes in front and behind: 7the first living creature like a lion, the second living creature like an ox, the third living creature with the face of a man, and the fourth living creature like an eagle in flight. 8And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all around and within, and day and night they never cease to say,
“Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty,
who was and is and is to come!”
9And whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to him who is seated on the throne, who lives forever and ever, 10the twenty-four elders fall down before him who is seated on the throne and worship him who lives forever and ever. They cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11 “Worthy are you, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they existed and were created.”
~
nothing there about hard rock angels tuning up and getting ready for the big show.
The problem with your argument is that metal is far more than just banging drums and squealing guitar. You will go into a vicious cycle with your argument until the day that you realize that Christian metal has been, is being, and will be used by God.
I invite you to listen to this song and to read the lyrics. This song speaks about focusing on the narrow road, and to understand that we can't rely on our understanding. I share it because it has produced fruit in me, I never share anything that hasn't.
YouTube - ‪The Sound Of Truth‬‏
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what fruit has it produced in you, adrian?
I invite you to listen to this song and to read the lyrics. This song speaks about focusing on the narrow road, and to understand that we can't rely on our understanding. I share it because it has produced fruit in me, I never share anything that hasn't.
YouTube - ‪The Sound Of Truth‬‏
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what fruit has it produced in you, adrian?
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Closed-minded is thinking you can throw the label of 'Christian' onto something and that somehow makes it sacred.
God can use a wide variety of things to gather His lost sheep. However you found Him, the only part that matters is that you now have a relationship with Christ. Metal music isn't somehow magical just because you had a personal experience. If the message of the song is what reached you then it wasn't the music. Hopefully it was the inspired Word of God the song was referencing.
The voice you hear the message in isn't that important. It doesn't matter if God used your neighbor or a family member or a dream or a vision or a song or a pastor or a total stranger. Do you understand what I'm saying? The MESSAGE can come from anywhere.
What we're talking about here is "Christian Metal." That is a genre of popular music. It's not a group of artists volunteering their time and talents to uplift the Lord and witness. It's a business just like every other facet of the music industry. We have to use discernment in everything and I see very little discernment when it comes to people who listen to anything so long as it is labeled as 'Christian.'
Now, the people on this site, active in this thread may actually use discernment. They may like the music just for the music. They may be selective in which artists they support (only TRUE Christians). Please let me know which "Christian bands" you think are absolutely horrible. I'm curious.
God can use a wide variety of things to gather His lost sheep. However you found Him, the only part that matters is that you now have a relationship with Christ. Metal music isn't somehow magical just because you had a personal experience. If the message of the song is what reached you then it wasn't the music. Hopefully it was the inspired Word of God the song was referencing.
The voice you hear the message in isn't that important. It doesn't matter if God used your neighbor or a family member or a dream or a vision or a song or a pastor or a total stranger. Do you understand what I'm saying? The MESSAGE can come from anywhere.
What we're talking about here is "Christian Metal." That is a genre of popular music. It's not a group of artists volunteering their time and talents to uplift the Lord and witness. It's a business just like every other facet of the music industry. We have to use discernment in everything and I see very little discernment when it comes to people who listen to anything so long as it is labeled as 'Christian.'
Now, the people on this site, active in this thread may actually use discernment. They may like the music just for the music. They may be selective in which artists they support (only TRUE Christians). Please let me know which "Christian bands" you think are absolutely horrible. I'm curious.
Christian Bands I find absolutely horrible?
In terms of message as long as they are using the Word fo God then none are horrible per say.
As far as genre's I don't like to listen to:
Gospel
Southern Gospel
Pop
Rap
R&B
This just has to do with tastes in music.
As far as Christian music i like
Acoustic stuff
Rock
Punk
Metal
Screamo
Post-Hardcore
Dubstep
In terms of message as long as they are using the Word fo God then none are horrible per say.
As far as genre's I don't like to listen to:
Gospel
Southern Gospel
Pop
Rap
R&B
This just has to do with tastes in music.
As far as Christian music i like
Acoustic stuff
Rock
Punk
Metal
Screamo
Post-Hardcore
Dubstep
considering that heavy metal is a STYLE of music - defined by its crsecendo-ing riffs and strong, supportive backrythyms, it is neither good nor bad, but just another style. What makes it seem bad to many is that many of the bands associated with this Style of music sing about "bad" things, although if one actually examines the lyrics they'll see that they are mostly just singing about how crazy life is.
I'm not saying christian metal is "magical"... however, it is just like any other music genre out there: it caters to a certain crowd, and to say God can't use it simply because said person hates metal is not basing their conclusion on scripture... they're basing it on human emotional opinion. scripture will always weigh more than human opinion
and the truth of the matter is, Christian metal is not "bad"
and the truth of the matter is, Christian metal is not "bad"
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There's a lot of things that are not going to be specifically stated in the bible. Some things are just implied or something you have to use context clues for. The best thing to do is take what Jesus said about different people and things and compare it to things of today. If the thing presented, does not in any way line up with truth or has nothing to do with what God says in his word, or about his love or comes against what he says, you would have to know its not of God. If it does have Christian values, represents honesty, truth, and is of God, then its right and good. In this case this topic is music. Just like Zeroturblance said, its neither good nor bad because we are talking about they style of music. In this case the person asked if "Christian" Metal was bad? A lot of things have changed since the bible days, and they are not necessarily "evil" just because they are present in different music "styles" or ways. (as a lot of people would like to think) Change isn't always evil.