Is Christian Metal bad?

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Is Christian Metal Bad?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 40.0%
  • No

    Votes: 11 55.0%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • dont really care

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .

Adrianv125

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Jan 17, 2011
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#61
Zone, the music that As I lay dying plays is very catchy to the ear of any one who can appreciate metal. The lyrics of the song always remind me to put my focus back not on my self or my own feelings but on God's word. However, I am not dependent of that music to realize this. This lyrics are inspired by the Holy Spirit and it the music is pleasant to listen to.
 

acesneverwin

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Jun 8, 2011
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#62
so basically He doesn't care one way or the other.
Exactly. We agree on something :)


Revelation 4
The Throne in Heaven
1After this I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven! And the first voice, which I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet, said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2At once I was in the Spirit, and behold, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne. 3And he who sat there had the appearance of jasper and carnelian, and around the throne was a rainbow that had the appearance of an emerald. 4Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and seated on the thrones were twenty-four elders, clothed in white garments, with golden crowns on their heads. 5From the throne came flashes of lightning, and rumblingsa and peals of thunder, and before the throne were burning seven torches of fire, which are the seven spirits of God, 6and before the throne there was as it were a sea of glass, like crystal.

And around the throne, on each side of the throne, are four living creatures, full of eyes in front and behind: 7the first living creature like a lion, the second living creature like an ox, the third living creature with the face of a man, and the fourth living creature like an eagle in flight. 8And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all around and within, and day and night they never cease to say,

“Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty,
who was and is and is to come!”

9And whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to him who is seated on the throne, who lives forever and ever, 10the twenty-four elders fall down before him who is seated on the throne and worship him who lives forever and ever. They cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

11 “Worthy are you, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they existed and were created.”

~

nothing there about hard rock angels tuning up and getting ready for the big show.
That was kind of a joke... but since you put it out there...

“Worthy are you, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they existed and were created.”

How do you know that it's not sung to metal? :D There's no music...

Here I'm going to post a metal song. It's a Christian one and it really does praise God in a similar way like that above. Please tell me what you think of the song after you listen to it and the lyrics... You don't have to like it but, I still wouldn't mind hearing your opinion (or anyone in the "metal is bad camp")

Here is the song: YouTube - ‪Theocracy - On Eagles Wings‬‏

And here's the lyrics so you can read and listen and understand everything:

"The tears stream down her face onto the cold hospital bed
Just like a prisoner between four ugly walls
The fear she can't control is running rampant in her head
With every day she spent just waiting for that call

And I will never leave her side
We walk the tightrope between faith and fear
Each moment of our lives
But then the darkest hour of night is turned to day
Another miracle, another act unfolding in this play
And I'm blown away

The wine overflows, and my cup runneth over again
My thankfulness grows
with these blessings I can't comprehend

You raise my spirit to the sky above to fly away
To fly on eagles' wings
You lift the fallen back on high again to coronate
The King above all kings
All honor
All glory
Raised to Your Majesty on eagles' wings

I looked him in the eye and played these words
over and over in my mind
But that can't be what he just said
I heard it for myself and know that life can be unkind
But can't you see I'm much too young to lose my dad?
But I'm blown away

When you laugh at the odds
for the doctor's cannot know your plans
I'm blown away
You hold the keys to all life and death and all time
in your hands

You raise my spirit to the sky above to fly away
To fly on eagles' wings
You lift the fallen back on high again to coronate
The King above all kings
All honor
All glory
Raised to Your Majesty on eagles' wings

Every tribe and every nation
(Lift your voices and sing)
[Lift a song of praise on high on eagles' wings]
All in heaven, all creation
Let the tongues of men and angels
(Lift your voices and sing)
[Let your heart reach to the sky on eagles' wings]
All ye blessed, all ye thankful, sing!


You raise my spirit to the sky above to fly away
To fly on eagles' wings
You life the fallen back on high again to coronate
The King above all kings
All honor
All glory
Raised to Your Majesty on eagles' wings
"
 
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zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
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#63
Zone, the music that As I lay dying plays is very catchy to the ear of any one who can appreciate metal. The lyrics of the song always remind me to put my focus back not on my self or my own feelings but on God's word. However, I am not dependent of that music to realize this. This lyrics are inspired by the Holy Spirit and it the music is pleasant to listen to.
really?
then that song belongs in canon.

just because you are a christian, and just because something is pleasing to you does not mean it is approved or appreciated by God.
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
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#64
Exactly. We agree on something :)"
if you truly believe God doesn't care one way or the other, you're wrong. but whatever.

That was kind of a joke... but since you put it out there...

“Worthy are you, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they existed and were created.”

How do you know that it's not sung to metal? :D There's no music...

Here I'm going to post a metal song. It's a Christian one and it really does praise God in a similar way like that above. Please tell me what you think of the song after you listen to it and the lyrics... You don't have to like it but, I still wouldn't mind hearing your opinion (or anyone in the "metal is bad camp")

Here is the song: YouTube - ‪Theocracy - On Eagles Wings‬‏

And here's the lyrics so you can read and listen and understand everything:

"The tears stream down her face onto the cold hospital bed
Just like a prisoner between four ugly walls
The fear she can't control is running rampant in her head
With every day she spent just waiting for that call

And I will never leave her side
We walk the tightrope between faith and fear
Each moment of our lives
But then the darkest hour of night is turned to day
Another miracle, another act unfolding in this play
And I'm blown away

The wine overflows, and my cup runneth over again
My thankfulness grows
with these blessings I can't comprehend

You raise my spirit to the sky above to fly away
To fly on eagles' wings
You lift the fallen back on high again to coronate
The King above all kings
All honor
All glory
Raised to Your Majesty on eagles' wings

I looked him in the eye and played these words
over and over in my mind
But that can't be what he just said
I heard it for myself and know that life can be unkind
But can't you see I'm much too young to lose my dad?
But I'm blown away

When you laugh at the odds
for the doctor's cannot know your plans
I'm blown away
You hold the keys to all life and death and all time
in your hands

You raise my spirit to the sky above to fly away
To fly on eagles' wings
You lift the fallen back on high again to coronate
The King above all kings
All honor
All glory
Raised to Your Majesty on eagles' wings

Every tribe and every nation
(Lift your voices and sing)
[Lift a song of praise on high on eagles' wings]
All in heaven, all creation
Let the tongues of men and angels
(Lift your voices and sing)
[Let your heart reach to the sky on eagles' wings]
All ye blessed, all ye thankful, sing!


You raise my spirit to the sky above to fly away
To fly on eagles' wings
You life the fallen back on high again to coronate
The King above all kings
All honor
All glory
Raised to Your Majesty on eagles' wings"
thank you.
if i need to have the written lyrics to understand everything i already have a problem.

the noise is not beauty, which is part of God's Holy Character.

the lyrics mention God, evidencing that apparently the person believes. that's it.

the rest of it is human nostaligia, sentimentality, and it is man-centered.

i get that you like it. that's cool.

so just call it music you like: but please don't represent it as holy or glorifying God - it isn't and it doesn't.
 
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Laodicea

Guest
#65
1 Kings 19:11-12
(11) And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
(12) And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
 
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Jullianna

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#66
There are those who think the majority of the music we play in many churches today to be inappropriate and some who think instruments of any kind in the church to be evil. While there have been times that I have had to alter lyrics before being personally comfortable with songs of different genres before playing them in a service, I have never found any genre of christian music to be evil. Perhaps some of it is simply not quite the joyful noise to one as it is to another, much like personal preferences regarding versions of scripture. There are even those who think the Internet is evil and may likely think all of us are as well for using it to discuss matters of faith.

King David, a man after God's own heart, was mocked for the way he celebrated before the Lord and the one who mocked him was punished, so we obviously need to be very careful about that.

Don't really have anything else to say on the topic...moving on. :)

I Corinthians 9 - 19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.

19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.
 

Phillster

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Jan 16, 2013
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#67
I know this is an old post, but came across it while looking for christian metal. It's obvious reading through some of the responses here that opinions very greatly, and I tend to agree with adrian, princessbella, blindside_chick.

I believe God is the creater of all things, and music is one of those things. Every form of musical sound(including metal) imaginable, is known to God long before humans discovered it . Nothing is new under the sun to Him who has made all things.

Metal at its heart(from a human discovery point of view) is simply a progession in music that fuses the sounds of various other musical elements. Just like many other musical styles that have come before it. How it is presented by the people who play it dictates its direction for good or bad in my opinion.

To me, christian metal has a real feel of spiritual warefare, and being vigilante. So no, I would say christian metal isn't bad, but it also isn't everyones cup of tea. I respect that, because I know God made each one of us different. Personal preferences shouldn't be forced on anyone in this regard.
 
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progressivenerdgirl

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#68
The Bible says nothing about bass drums or death metal growls. That being said, a good deal of it is probably heretical in content.
 

Phillster

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Jan 16, 2013
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#71
The Bible says nothing about bass drums or death metal growls. That being said, a good deal of it is probably heretical in content.
Thats true. It dosn't tell us to play a certain instrument only, or sing a certain way. It doesn't even tell me to brush my teeth after every meal.
 
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progressivenerdgirl

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#72
Thats true. It dosn't tell us to play a certain instrument only, or sing a certain way. It doesn't even tell me to brush my teeth after every meal.
I don't know what point you're trying to make here. I was more saying that there is nothing in the Bible about genres of music and we really have no business trying to find out what music we should be listening to; except insofar as that music treats or mistreats God and his Laws.
 

Phillster

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Jan 16, 2013
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#73
I don't know what point you're trying to make here. I was more saying that there is nothing in the Bible about genres of music and we really have no business trying to find out what music we should be listening to; except insofar as that music treats or mistreats God and his Laws.
I was agreeing with you in my words, but my brain is falling asleep as its late ha
 
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rauleetoe

Guest
#76
people LOVE this 'ism"....translation: i have created a god in MY image. my god LIKES death-metal and AC/DC.

in case you hadn't noticed, God has placed Himself "in a box" - He stipulates how He is to be worshipped and approached....He is HOLY.

justify "metal" all you want to. it's of the world all the way (and that my PC answer).

anyway...aren't you a little old for metal at 28?
Really..are you not a little too old for online forums? Is there not some bingo hall that will accomodate you..or did they run out of seats(see..when this unfairness is placed on you..it is not very nice now is it)
 
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rauleetoe

Guest
#77
Zone, the music that As I lay dying plays is very catchy to the ear of any one who can appreciate metal. The lyrics of the song always remind me to put my focus back not on my self or my own feelings but on God's word. However, I am not dependent of that music to realize this. This lyrics are inspired by the Holy Spirit and it the music is pleasant to listen to.
Having myself booked a concert for As i lay dying,with Society's finest and riseoverrun back before As i Lay dying got signed to metalblade..i can concur..Tim Lambesis is a humble man..and was able to show Christ to the owner of the venue,who was an atheist Vegan straightedge guy..but who totally dropped his guard when he heard the band's music..
Not everyone is gonna dig Steven Curtis Chapman or DC talk..

So like Paul says..He became all things to all men..so he may win some..
I totally believe God can use whatever..even metal..i have seen it..ive seen the heart of these musicians..and others..like former bands now defunct, falling cycle and Point of Recognition..
 
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nathan3

Guest
#78
The only real music is Country Music. I don't listen to Country music and I know that. :D
 
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TosinAsLeader

Guest
#79
Zone,

LOL this christian :rolleyes:

I read just about all your posts and your "beliefs," are opinion based, not truth. Give me scriptures proving that Metal is evil. Don't forget to use it in context ;)

Oh and if Metal isn't music than play me Dance of Eternity by Dream Theater on guitar. If that is to easy for you, post me you doing the whole band cover by yourself (which you ALL learned by ear.) By the way, do you play a 7 string guitar atleast? Explain time signatures. What tone do you use on your amp? What kind or how many pedals do you need to have a Djent sound. What is Djent? Have a nice day :D
 
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hattiebod

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#80
Zone,

LOL this christian :rolleyes:

I read just about all your posts and your "beliefs," are opinion based, not truth. Give me scriptures proving that Metal is evil. Don't forget to use it in context ;)

Oh and if Metal isn't music than play me Dance of Eternity by Dream Theater on guitar. If that is to easy for you, post me you doing the whole band cover by yourself (which you ALL learned by ear.) By the way, do you play a 7 string guitar atleast? Explain time signatures. What tone do you use on your amp? What kind or how many pedals do you need to have a Djent sound. What is Djent? Have a nice day :D
Personnaly, I do not think its the type of music that's the issue, God loves us to dance and to sing, to play instruments and to have fun together. This does not always have to be 'worship' music either...but. Perhaps we do need to watch the content of the lyrics? making a noise is not the problem, what's a noise to me may be tuneful to someone else but I don't like the content that bands produce sometimes. This is not just heavy metal either. Bottom line is as Christians, we ought to do all things for His glory. So it's the lyrics than can be a problem. <><