Is Christian Metal bad?

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Is Christian Metal Bad?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 40.0%
  • No

    Votes: 11 55.0%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • dont really care

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
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TosinAsLeader

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Personnaly, I do not think its the type of music that's the issue, God loves us to dance and to sing, to play instruments and to have fun together. This does not always have to be 'worship' music either...but. Perhaps we do need to watch the content of the lyrics? making a noise is not the problem, what's a noise to me may be tuneful to someone else but I don't like the content that bands produce sometimes. This is not just heavy metal either. Bottom line is as Christians, we ought to do all things for His glory. So it's the lyrics than can be a problem. <><
Sure, but lyrics not biblical based has saved lives and done good for people.
Granted permission, I shall copy/paste what a friend of mine said on a site:



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You do realize that the Bible does not condemn ANY music? But anyway....

Screaming like a demonized maniac? Refer to the point above as well as to what I say on this:

When you listen to Metal, Deathcore, or any other sub-genre or fusion sub-genre, that is what you're going to get with today's Metal and Rock. Every singer has their unique un-clean vocal, which is beauty in it's self. The genres that represent them are the best outlet - as the many genres express feelings and emotions humans could never fully talk about. Music gives people a real voice, like me. Music gives people a baseline to work with too. I'm going to copy/paste what I had posted awhile back, and you'll understand why "screaming like a demonized maniac" is the best outlet for many people who like different music, and is why screaming is an outlet for emotion and feeling.

So lets go with the bands that have the most momentum and cross genres! I'll post videos too.
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Pierce The Veil - Caraphernalia: A song about Ex Girlfriends-Vic Fuentes' in particular. "The last time I saw my ex-girlfriend, she left all kinds of random things behind at my house: travel shampoo, a razor in the shower, hair clips, etc. It was basically just a bunch of stuff that kept reminding me of her. After a while, it made me miss her, and I wondered why we ever broke up in the first place. When I wrote the music for the chorus, I knew right away that I wanted to ask my friend Jeremy McKinnon [of A Day To Remember] to do the screaming parts on the chorus and bridge. A few weeks after I wrote the song, I approached Jeremy with the idea and he agreed to sing on the album. It turned out to be one of my favorite tracks once we collaborated. One of my favorite things to do is make music with my friends. That collaboration makes the songs very special to me."

I'm sure you can connect it and so can many people with ex boyfriends and girlfriends.

Match Into Water: A song about Vic's ex who went through cancer yet died through Chemo. The theme overall as well? Getting through a rough time and Cancer in particular as many of Vic's friends are plagued. I kissed the scars on her skin
I still think you’re beautiful
and I don’t ever want to lose my best friend
I screamed out, “God, you vulture”
bring her back or take me with her

How does it feel, how does it feel?
Well, it feels like I’m on fire
Wake up, I know you can hear me

The scars meaning the IV's, and how vic cares about the ones he loved and still does. And being on fire? Many people who go through chemo equate it to being lit afire.

Even the album artwork on Collide The Sky is symbolic.

"The theme to the album artwork is “jumping off of the ground that is breaking beneath you.” The idea is to inspire hope amongst the chaos that may happening around you. If the ground was breaking beneath your feet, your first reaction may be to run and jump to safety, and it’s that moment where you are suspended in the air that I am focusing on. A still frame where you’re not sure if the person is falling or flying. It’s about freeing yourself from the things that are breaking or falling apart in your life, and inspiring a sense of hope from the desperation."
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Issues - Princeton Ave: Completely self explanatory.

What is a man, who lays a hand on his lover, and calls it tough love
What is a man, who can't take a stand for his daughter, and calls it tough love
Your roots grow in the crack of the alleys, college park made you
Man enough to see man enough to see, there ain't a god**** man in me

Take me back to a date, before I was hostile and learned to hate

You promised yourself you would never become,
A storm a blackout replicating the one
The thunder inside him became your life
And you called him your best friend till the day you were nine

Hotel rooms, bourbon, and broads, a drifter living life, without god
You've done it now, you planted a seed, now the storm inside you, it swallows her

And I know life can be so strange
But I know I can make a change
I'm gonna wipe away the clouds for ya

I'm gonna be around for ya, I'm gonna paint the town for ya,
I'm gonna make a promise to give you everything you want and need,
But she F****ed up now, cause she's bearing another mouth you can't feed

Cease production of a destructive breed,
Seek help cause your pride only makes you weak

C'mon man. Half of these members aren't even Christian.


Abuse in relationships, and other close relationships.

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Nightmare Of You -

The Days Go By Oh So Slow -
But I'm yours if you want it
I can be yours to spend your life with
I can be yours; we'll hide indoors
Petrified of the world

And if you'd rather stay in at night
I can relate to that
And if it feels like your heart's dried up
I can relate to that
And if you need someone at your side
I am out there
I'm out there
Out there

Supporting your lover, and supporting those close to you-making amends and meeting half-way on things that you may diasagree from one another.
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Chelsea Grin - (one of my favorite bands)

The Second Coming:


"The idea behind this song was to create an evil alternate version of the second coming of Christ. Rather than having a savior come back and wash away all your sins, it's an evil entity that creates an apocalyptic blackened world. As a band, we don't wear a religious label of any sort. We all believe in different things, and we're not knocking anyone's beliefs. The deeper meaning behind it is for people not to [categorize] faith as a "hero or savior" to cleanse away the wrongs of humanity, but rather put faith in themselves and create a world based on the moral conduct of right and wrong. Not base your character, and the way you live your life, in fear of a higher power. Be your own God so to speak."

S.H.OT:


"The title stands for 'Society Hides Our Truths.' I wanted to reach out to anyone that has ever been stepped on, or made fun of, in their lives — people that constantly get ridiculed by society, and are put down for believing/looking differently from everybody else. I wanted this song to be an anthem for those people. I want them to know that they don't have to take the bull**** that is forced down their throats. I want them to know that they're not the only ones who feel like they are different. I want them to rise above what's considered "normal," and laugh in the faces of anyone that tries to make them think or behave otherwise. When I was growing up, I was never the popular kid in school. I have been teased, made fun of, and everything in between. I rose above all that to become the person I am today, and I haven't let anyone stop me."
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Motionless In White

Devil's Night:


So loud
We are the ones that you pushed away
For drowning your voice out
You’d like to think
We've been defeated, but we’re here to stay
Forever and always

We've been through everything
And we all have our scars
We may be broken but you
Can't kill all of us

I am no villain, think before you F***ing speak
People fear what they don’t understand
And so now beauty has become the F***ing beast

So Loud
We are the ones that you pushed away
For drowning your voice out
You’d like to think
We've been defeated, but we’re here to stay
Forever and always

Society as a whole-being close minded and a strict ruleset. Conformity and viewing what is "right and normal". Don't give in to the majority~

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The list of bands and analytic points go on and on for me-this is a small fraction of bands that saved me from myself. For years I dealt with anxiety, depression, and anger management. But music as an outlet combined with playing the drums and finding a life for me helped put my emotions into words with the help of music like this. It shouldn't have to glorify a god unless you're an explicit Christian band. I'm not saying they can't play- I actively listen to Red and The Devil Wears Prada-but they're not the only bands giving amazing lyrics that deal with everyday life and can be on personal levels.
 
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hattiebod

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Thank you for your informative reply, I think though, I still believe the same things as I posted. It's not the noise, or the screaming etc that's is an issue for many, it's the 'lack of control'. I Think if we are in a relationship with Christ and the Holy Spirit dwells in us, then we are 'new creations'. We then have the Holy Spirit living in us...and He is not screaming, shouting, showing such a lack of control. So, I suppose for me, heavy metal does not display self control. It's about venting and giving into emotion, a lot of which is quite destructive. I think we shall have to agree to disagree on this one! No one, nothing on this earth can save you from yourself, no beautiful poetry, art or music....only Christ crucified. I also think an awful lot of the lyrics are so defeated and dark...I prefer the hope I find in the Light.
 
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spacefreak

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not if it's singing to GOD's praise
 
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Ugly

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The Bible says nothing about bass drums or death metal growls. That being said, a good deal of it is probably heretical in content.
Awesome way to make a statement that you can't back up with any evidence and is stated purely on speculation. Way to defend your beliefs. ''probably heretical''. *scoffs. Maybe do some research before you speak on something you know nothing about.
 
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TosinAsLeader

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Thank you for your informative reply, I think though, I still believe the same things as I posted. It's not the noise, or the screaming etc that's is an issue for many, it's the 'lack of control'.
Lack of control? Umm explain yourself. Sure metal concerts can be like that, but whats the difference with a Toby Mac concert? There was obviously a lack on control at the concert I went to, seeing Toby Mac.


I Think if we are in a relationship with Christ and the Holy Spirit dwells in us, then we are 'new creations'. We then have the Holy Spirit living in us...and He is not screaming, shouting, showing such a lack of control.
More of a opinion or bias, but ok. Shouting is a usual trait to show deliverance or joy when you speak in tongues. Haven't you spoken in tongues?

So, I suppose for me, heavy metal does not display self control. It's about venting and giving into emotion, a lot of which is quite destructive. I think we shall have to agree to disagree on this one!
How do you know what Metal is about? Have you ever listen to or found meaning in the genre? Yes, greatly disagree.

No one, nothing on this earth can save you from yourself, no beautiful poetry, art or music....only Christ crucified. I also think an awful lot of the lyrics are so defeated and dark...I prefer the hope I find in the Light.
You? Was that a statement referring to me? The hope you found in the "Light," can be viewed very differently.
 
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Tintin

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#88
No, Christian metal isn't bad, but some of it is poorly done.
 
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spacefreak

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i meant only if it sings GOD'S praise, the word not was a mistype
 
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i used to be a metal head, would listen to bands like, testament, sacred warrior, armored saint, but the closer i get to God the less i can even stand hearing it, maybe it goes with age. i'm not that old really, just 49 yrs young, but i don't like the feeling that goes with metal any more, seems to me it stirs up anger and rebellion. i don't care what kind of music a person listens to, that,s between them and God, but for me the answer is yes, metal music is not good for me, i don't like the feeling it puts in my body any more. Glory to God, Honoring Christ Jesus, letting the Holy Spirit move in my life, is what turns me on today.
 
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TosinAsLeader

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i used to be a metal head, would listen to bands like, testament, sacred warrior, armored saint, but the closer i get to God the less i can even stand hearing it, maybe it goes with age. i'm not that old really, just 49 yrs young, but i don't like the feeling that goes with metal any more, seems to me it stirs up anger and rebellion. i don't care what kind of music a person listens to, that,s between them and God, but for me the answer is yes, metal music is not good for me, i don't like the feeling it puts in my body any more. Glory to God, Honoring Christ Jesus, letting the Holy Spirit move in my life, is what turns me on today.
What do you listen to now?
 
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i don't listen to much music any more, but when i do its music that gives me a peaceful, easy feeling, i mostly sing to God and Jesus, instead of listening to music, been trying to remember songs of the word, that are in revelation, and working on some of the psalms. Not sure of the tune they was written by so i just put a tune to them.
 
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CHRISTIAN + METAL = NOT CHRISTIAN

God is HOLY, HOLY, HOLY.
what exactly makes metal not christian doesnt the bible actually say Jesus himself went to the highways and the byways to reach the lost and thats what metal fans are is lost so are you saying they should be conformed or be destroyed thats a little hypocritical
 
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if you truly believe God doesn't care one way or the other, you're wrong. but whatever.



thank you.
if i need to have the written lyrics to understand everything i already have a problem.

the noise is not beauty, which is part of God's Holy Character.

the lyrics mention God, evidencing that apparently the person believes. that's it.

the rest of it is human nostaligia, sentimentality, and it is man-centered.

i get that you like it. that's cool.

so just call it music you like: but please don't represent it as holy or glorifying God - it isn't and it doesn't.
so are you saying that members of metal bands aren't christian? if so you are very very wrong. my best friend since 2nd grade whio is also my former pastor's youngest child, was in a Christian Heavy Metal band called Our Dying Valor. And I have seen tremendous affects that heavy metal has done to sinners turning them christians turning even satanists into christians. Myself included. Therefore you really should think about what you're saying before you say it and pray about it because if christian metal is satanic then so is christian rap and christian pop.
 

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I'm not sure if it is bad..but the culture behind metal music IS bad (killing, death, satanic worship, blasphemy--I know not all metal is like that but a lot is). So then, I don't think metal music is a great medium to deliver praise to the Lord. It's like pouring Jesus a cup of water from a used whiskey bottle.
 
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GraceBeUntoYou

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As Martin Luther said - Why should the devil have all the good music?
This citation has been attributed to several. Among those include Charles Wesley, and as you have pointed out, Martin Luther. However, there's just a small problem: There's no documentation that proves that either man actually wrote or spoke these words.
 
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GraceBeUntoYou

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I'm not sure if it is bad..but the culture behind metal music IS bad (killing, death, satanic worship, blasphemy--I know not all metal is like that but a lot is). So then, I don't think metal music is a great medium to deliver praise to the Lord. It's like pouring Jesus a cup of water from a used whiskey bottle.
And to this I would agree. However, the same can be said of rap, pop, country, or any genre of music for that matter.
 
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Alex_96

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For me......Hard rock and metal genres are extremely are extremely hardcore and it doesn't reflect anything about the holyness of god.....but kinda think of it.....those genre can still be adjusted at certain point....like I use metal riff at the church....but screamo and heavy grunge are not appropiated for clarity in church 's music...
 
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hattiebod

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Eh if christian metal is going to send me to hell well at least it would be better than having to spend eternity with people who somehow believe god is limited in the scope of his powers and cant use all things to his glory.
There could be a slight problem with this view...it could give a person permission to act in anyway they wanted...hang out in bars and strip clubs for example....after all, God will use all things to his glory right? I do not think we are to 'become AS the world to reach out TO the world. Perhaps....insane thought but maybe if we Christians were less compromised, more non believers would take us seriously, notice us as different and not get so irritated with our hypocrisy. God Bless, <><
 
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You've heard that story of the person who died and went to heaven and was met at the Pearlie Gates by Peter, and after some small talk they started to go in and the person noticed a small group of people off in the distance and inquiring ask 'who is that'? Peter quickly hushed the person and said it's the Southern Baptist, they think their the only ones here! Well about ten times further off in the distance this person heard a rumbling and shaking of parts of heaven, quickly asking 'is that the Lord'? 'Heavens no'! Peter said, again hushing the person, that's them metal people, we don't want them to know where their at!