Is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?
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( I am quite certain that you only want to "pick a fight"; nonetheless, a clue to the answer you seek ( which has already been given ) is before you - indeed, it is in this post - and, in fact, even in this very statement. 
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God said that He would preserve His Word.
He who believes in God ( not just believes that He exists, but believes in all that He says ) will believe that God has preseved His Truth.
Are you looking for a bible that is "inerrant and infallible" enough -- so that you may learn of God's Truth concerning the age of the earth? If so - you have your answer...
More likely than that -- you are trying to discredit all bibles - to nullify the Word of God - to take away all scriptural authority -- so that you can then "lift up" human authority to the level of 'God'.
( So that there is no "higher authority" to dispute the "human authority" that has declared the stuff you wish to believe. )
)God said that He would preserve His Word.
He who believes in God ( not just believes that He exists, but believes in all that He says ) will believe that God has preseved His Truth.
Are you looking for a bible that is "inerrant and infallible" enough -- so that you may learn of God's Truth concerning the age of the earth? If so - you have your answer...
More likely than that -- you are trying to discredit all bibles - to nullify the Word of God - to take away all scriptural authority -- so that you can then "lift up" human authority to the level of 'God'.
( So that there is no "higher authority" to dispute the "human authority" that has declared the stuff you wish to believe. )
The Bible is His 'statement' to mankind - it must take precedence over everything else. If anything does not agree with scripture, it must be wrong.
If you are going to say that anything that does not agree with scripture is wrong . . .
. . . then show me the scripture you say is absolutely right.
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"You are so proud that you cannot see what is right in front of your face!"
I will not answer your questions.
Why?
Because of your "commanding" attitude.
You want everyone else to answer your questions; yet, you will not answer any of theirs. And, you "do not listen" to any of their answers when they post an answer!
Do you actually read other people's posts? Completely? Word-for-word? To get the full meaning of their post?
Somehow, I do not think so...
I will not answer your questions.
Why?
Because of your "commanding" attitude.
You want everyone else to answer your questions; yet, you will not answer any of theirs. And, you "do not listen" to any of their answers when they post an answer!
Do you actually read other people's posts? Completely? Word-for-word? To get the full meaning of their post?
Somehow, I do not think so...
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well i have been watching this thread ever since my conclusion that it would be more beneficial to the gospel to let the evolutionists and the hovindists discredit each other...
so far i have seen the main evolutionist make numerous errors of fact and logic...yet the hovindists with their faulty methods are treading water at best against even amateurish evolutionist argumentation...in what should be an easy debate for a credible biblical creationist...
i think my initial choice to stand by and watch both sides embarrass themselves has been vindicated...non evolutionists and non hovindists can look at this thread and see how ridiculous both sides are...
so far i have seen the main evolutionist make numerous errors of fact and logic...yet the hovindists with their faulty methods are treading water at best against even amateurish evolutionist argumentation...in what should be an easy debate for a credible biblical creationist...
i think my initial choice to stand by and watch both sides embarrass themselves has been vindicated...non evolutionists and non hovindists can look at this thread and see how ridiculous both sides are...
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this thread would have been over pages ago were it not for the fact that the primary self appointed defenders of the creationist position in this thread have been poisoned by the leaven of kent hovind...
leave them be...if anything this thread can serve as a reminder of the need for more credible creation apologetics...
leave them be...if anything this thread can serve as a reminder of the need for more credible creation apologetics...
Are you not going to post the links one more time for ICR, AIG, CMI and say what wonderful websites they are?
So maxwel can agree with you again?
So tell me, how comfortable are those dinosaurs to ride at Ken Ham's museum?
I assume you can ride them since some of them have saddles.
Never been there myself.
So maxwel can agree with you again?
So tell me, how comfortable are those dinosaurs to ride at Ken Ham's museum?
I assume you can ride them since some of them have saddles.
Never been there myself.
If you are into aerospace, then certainly you are familiar with the name Vernon Grose, right?
Vernon Grose was a friend of Werhner Von Braun and Grose worked under Braun on the Saturn booster rocket that launched Apollo.
Grose wrote a book entitled Science But Not Scientists in which he interviewed his friend Werhner von Braun and quoted him as saying this on p. 358:
If fundamentalistic religion means belief that the book of Genesis gives a correct scientific account of how the world came into being; that 4004 BC is the date of the origin of the earth, and that all living things were “created” in their final form rather than developed through evolutionary, “survival-of-the-fittest” processes, then I am most emphatically not a believer in fundamental religion. If, however, the question is whether behind the many random processes which are operating in nature, there is a “divine intent”, my answer is an equally emphatic “yes.”
Werhner von Braun does not appear to be a YEC to me, although some YECs would lead us to believe that he was.
Vernon Grose was a friend of Werhner Von Braun and Grose worked under Braun on the Saturn booster rocket that launched Apollo.
Grose wrote a book entitled Science But Not Scientists in which he interviewed his friend Werhner von Braun and quoted him as saying this on p. 358:
If fundamentalistic religion means belief that the book of Genesis gives a correct scientific account of how the world came into being; that 4004 BC is the date of the origin of the earth, and that all living things were “created” in their final form rather than developed through evolutionary, “survival-of-the-fittest” processes, then I am most emphatically not a believer in fundamental religion. If, however, the question is whether behind the many random processes which are operating in nature, there is a “divine intent”, my answer is an equally emphatic “yes.”
Werhner von Braun does not appear to be a YEC to me, although some YECs would lead us to believe that he was.
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More on what Werhner von Braun said (from Werhner von Braun: Crusader for Space, Stuhlinger and Ordway):
"For me," he would continue, "there is no real contradiction between the world of science and the world of religion. The two are dealing with two different things, but they are not in conflict with each other. Theologians are trying to describe the Creator; scientists are trying to describe His creation. Science and religion are not antagonists; on the contrary, they are sisters . . . While, through science, man tries to harness the forces of nature around him, through religion he tries to harness the forces of nature within him . . ."
Hmmm, no real contradiction between science and religion.
Tell that to YECs.
Wernher von Braun is obviously not talking about a world that is around 6,000 years old.
YECs promote a conflict between science and religion.
And make themselves look foolish in doing so.
So said Pat Robertson about Ken Ham.
Pat Robertson does get some things right, and so does the Pope.
"For me," he would continue, "there is no real contradiction between the world of science and the world of religion. The two are dealing with two different things, but they are not in conflict with each other. Theologians are trying to describe the Creator; scientists are trying to describe His creation. Science and religion are not antagonists; on the contrary, they are sisters . . . While, through science, man tries to harness the forces of nature around him, through religion he tries to harness the forces of nature within him . . ."
Hmmm, no real contradiction between science and religion.
Tell that to YECs.
Wernher von Braun is obviously not talking about a world that is around 6,000 years old.
YECs promote a conflict between science and religion.
And make themselves look foolish in doing so.
So said Pat Robertson about Ken Ham.
Pat Robertson does get some things right, and so does the Pope.
Been there, done that.
It looks to me like Werhner von Braun's views are those of an Old Earth Creationist.
Like Bowman's, it would appear to me.
And unlike those of a YEC such as yourself and most of those posting on this thread.
No doubt Bowman will send you a thank you note for supporting his position, even though you had no intention of doing so.
It looks to me like Werhner von Braun's views are those of an Old Earth Creationist.
Like Bowman's, it would appear to me.
And unlike those of a YEC such as yourself and most of those posting on this thread.
No doubt Bowman will send you a thank you note for supporting his position, even though you had no intention of doing so.
All you YECs are welcome to participate in this contest.
Who said the below?
"I'm going to be real surprised if we go two more years. We are so close [to the New World Order]. All we need is one good disaster - which will be manufactured - they create their own disasters. Like the Twin Towers - they blew it up themselves - and they do that so they can bring in their solution. And what they want - if you look at what they want - they want a one world government - a New World Order - with Satan in charge. Period. That's the goal."
The first one to come up with the correct answer wins a free Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) video.
Who said the below?
"I'm going to be real surprised if we go two more years. We are so close [to the New World Order]. All we need is one good disaster - which will be manufactured - they create their own disasters. Like the Twin Towers - they blew it up themselves - and they do that so they can bring in their solution. And what they want - if you look at what they want - they want a one world government - a New World Order - with Satan in charge. Period. That's the goal."
The first one to come up with the correct answer wins a free Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) video.
What you were actually saying is that fossil footprints proved that dinosaurs and humans coexisted.
I replied to you debunking that nonsense.
But your avatar brings to mind another question.
Isn't Ben Carson a 7th-Day Adventist? And he says the world is around 6,000 years old?
And YECs get much of their pseudoscience from 7th-Day Adventists?
And 7th-Day Adventists get totally bashed in these forums?
Something doesn't jive here.
I replied to you debunking that nonsense.
But your avatar brings to mind another question.
Isn't Ben Carson a 7th-Day Adventist? And he says the world is around 6,000 years old?
And YECs get much of their pseudoscience from 7th-Day Adventists?
And 7th-Day Adventists get totally bashed in these forums?
Something doesn't jive here.