Is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?

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Yall want some facts.. Evolution did happen for a particular race.


one race has Neanderthal in its DNA and the other doesn't.
theres huemans and theres mankind lol
 
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Yall want some facts.. Evolution did happen for a particular race.


one race has Neanderthal in its DNA and the other doesn't.
theres huemans and theres mankind lol
I always like a good joke first thing in the morning.

LOL.

For what race did evolution happen?

Aren't there more than two races?

What race do you think has Neanderthal DNA?

What is the difference between humans and mankind, exactly?
 
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kaylagrl

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My personal friend didn't misunderstand him when he invited the people to come down and pick the counsellor of their choice with numerous so called Christian religions represented (so called)
Well all I can say is Ive never known Graham to peach that all roads led to Christ. I believe my parents were councilors one year when he was nearby.Will have to ask them if they had the same experience.
 
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How many unbelievers adhere to a young earth? If the evidence is there, why aren't any scientists supporting it outside the Creation scientists? "Because they refuse to believe!" What, refuse to believe what is before their eyes, that which is so obvious?
In Kitzmiller v. Dover the judge pointed out that the YEC scientists who testified had absolutely nothing pertaining to the matters at hand published in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals. Ten years later, they still don't.

There is absolutely nothing in any reputable peer-reviewed scientific journal indicating that the earth is around 6,000 years old or that dinosaurs coexisted with humans or that there was a global flood and on and on.

Origen just raised an issue about humans having Neanderthal DNA.

What you will find in scientific journals is that Neanderthals lived on this earth far longer than 6,000 years ago, and so did humans.

How do YECs explain this away?

Well, we know, but it ain't pretty.

Another excellent post of yours.

You should write a book!
 
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kaylagrl

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So where is God in all of this? How is evolution true and the Bible true? What am I missing? Is He the Creator or not?
 
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popeye

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So where is God in all of this? How is evolution true and the Bible true? What am I missing? Is He the Creator or not?
If a person rejects Jn 1 ,then they reject Jesus himself.

He is creator,period.
 
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popeye

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Can both be true?
The spirit of antichrist is here on eearth. It's mission is to replace the Christ with a fake.

A babe in Christ can recognize evolution is a fake.
 
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For a "christian" to line up with such phoniness as evolution ,is a testimony to the ease with which the last days deception will take hold.

Evolution is the spawn of atheists.
Atheism is a religion.Atheism does not work with creationism,nor is it allowed to sit up to the same table.
Its priests are school teachers and professors
Its churches are schools and universities
Its bible is darwins origins of the feces
Its blood sacrifice is millions of unborn,horrifically slaughtered.
Its worship music is rap and rock,and country music.
Its "prophets" are the media and hollywood.
Its spirit dimension is satan and demons.

I take my stand with THE CREATOR,JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH AS AUTHENTICATED BY HIS LIFE AND PRESENCE TODAY,THE EMPTY TOMB,AND THE SCARS IN HIS HANDS FEET,AND SIDE.

THATS THE GOD I WILL WORSHIP AND I REFUSE TO BOW TO THE DEMON DUNGPILE OF EVOLUTION AND IT'S FATHER SATAN
 
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The spirit of antichrist is here on eearth. It's mission is to replace the Christ with a fake.

A babe in Christ can recognize evolution is a fake.
Uhm you know evolution happens everyday o_O
 
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popeye

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In Kitzmiller v. Dover the judge pointed out that the YEC scientists who testified had absolutely nothing pertaining to the matters at hand published in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals. Ten years later, they still don't.

There is absolutely nothing in any reputable peer-reviewed scientific journal indicating that the earth is around 6,000 years old or that dinosaurs coexisted with humans or that there was a global flood and on and on.

Origen just raised an issue about humans having Neanderthal DNA.

What you will find in scientific journals is that Neanderthals lived on this earth far longer than 6,000 years ago, and so did humans.

How do YECs explain this away?

Well, we know, but it ain't pretty.

Another excellent post of yours.

You should write a book!
No,you start with a premise. Your premise is "we need millions of years for evolution to 'work'"
That IN FACT is your startiing place.
That in fact is why you can jettison anything that refutes the lie you spread and spew.


here is truth;
Jn 1;1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Now,you get on here and tell people to "put up or shut up"

1) I need you to tell all us in cyberland that Jesus is a liar.(you already have anyway)

2) Show us a transitionary fossil supporting evolution. There should be millions to choose from.(not the joke mess from your prophet "scientists" imagination.)

Two basic simple things that you preach, and should be able to,as you say,"put up or shut up"
 

kodiak

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In Kitzmiller v. Dover the judge pointed out that the YEC scientists who testified had absolutely nothing pertaining to the matters at hand published in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals. Ten years later, they still don't.

There is absolutely nothing in any reputable peer-reviewed scientific journal indicating that the earth is around 6,000 years old or that dinosaurs coexisted with humans or that there was a global flood and on and on.

Origen just raised an issue about humans having Neanderthal DNA.

What you will find in scientific journals is that Neanderthals lived on this earth far longer than 6,000 years ago, and so did humans.

How do YECs explain this away?

Well, we know, but it ain't pretty.

Another excellent post of yours.

You should write a book!
Uhm you know evolution happens everyday o_O
Evolution literally means change. Micro evolution is not really evolution that can cause species to come from other species.
Can you please explain macro evolution at a molecular level using chemistry?
do you mind explaining how scientists know the earth is really old?
No one has yet to answer this question fully yet either without using circular reasoning. Anyone here want to give it a try?
Since Jack is an expert on evolution and it being in peer reviewed journals, he should be able to explain how scientists know the earth is old.
 
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Evolution literally means change. Micro evolution is not really evolution that can cause species to come from other species.
Can you please explain macro evolution at a molecular level using chemistry?

No one has yet to answer this question fully yet either without using circular reasoning. Anyone here want to give it a try?
Since Jack is an expert on evolution and it being in peer reviewed journals, he should be able to explain how scientists know the earth is old.
Explaining using chemistry .. I could but I'm lazy, I like keeping my post short. Its just basic gene selection from parents. Dad skin color is (Bb) Mom is (Yy) and you a 're born with (By) you moves to a place with little Sun your proteins in your DNA can change so on and so on. 100 years later everybody is( yy) from your family. Lol then somebody can move to a place with a lot of sun and get there proteins back too Bb over some century's . there's some basics for ya
 

kodiak

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Explaining using chemistry .. I could but I'm lazy, I like keeping my post short. Its just basic gene selection from parents. Dad skin color is (Bb) Mom is (Yy) and you a 're born with (By) you moves to a place with little Sun your proteins in your DNA can change so on and so on. 100 years later everybody is( yy) from your family. Lol then somebody can move to a place with a lot of sun and get there proteins back too Bb over some century's . there's some basics for ya
I want macro evolution explained at a molecular level.....scientists cant even do it...so if you can, I would be impressed.
 
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Since Jack is an expert on evolution and it being in peer reviewed journals, he should be able to explain how scientists know the earth is old.
Why are you trying to waste my time?

I never said I was an expert on evolution. But I know where to go to find people who are. And it's not YEC pseudoscientific propaganda machines like ICR, AIG, and CMI.

Most everybody knows the story here.

YECs say the earth is around 6,000 years old. The "science" they use to "prove" that is not really science, as determined by major federal court decisions and that "science" has never, to my knowledge, been published in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals. Why? Because it's nonsense.

Then you have other Christians who believe that science does not conflict with the bible. I have mentioned several prominent ones.

I don't really care how old the earth is, exactly. I'll go with what the preponderance of credible scientific evidence indicates. And that evidence is overwhelming that the earth is somewhere in the vicinity of 4.6 billion years old. Most everybody knows where to find that information, right? Hint: A museum might be good unless it's like Ken Ham's.

Do I care if the earth is 2 billion years old? No. That is what the age of the earth was thought to be 50-75 years ago.

Now, you tell me it matters to a YEC whether the earth is around 6,000 years old or around 100,000 years old.
 
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I want macro evolution explained at a molecular level.....scientists cant even do it...so if you can, I would be impressed.
That was macro evolution on a molecular level lol.
a change in the sequence composition of cellular molecules such as DNA, RNA, and proteins over long periods of time.

Unless that's wrong and that's just there theory of it o_O
 
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My question is do you fellas believe the earth is 6000 years old? Or older?
 

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So where is God in all of this? How is evolution true and the Bible true? What am I missing? Is He the Creator or not?
Kaylgrl, if you want my opinion, evolution or not, it doesn't matter.
I dare any Sola Fide believer to tell me otherwise, that this doctrine alone leads to hell. Faith alone in Christ for salvation - I'm unaware of anyone who claims evolution saves in any way, or that believing it is imperative to salvation. Plenty who say it damns (even if repenting and having faith in Christ), but never heard anyone say it saves.

This is a matter of perspective, and to be honest Kaylgrl, I think both models are awe-inspiring depending on how you look at it.

You could think of a God that brings something out of nothing - He speaks and it is there. No way any of us could ever do that. He speaks these things, they are there and day upon day adding to His creation like one adding strokes to a canvas. I can see how one would find that inspirational.

What about the idea that you are a fraction of a fraction of a speck in time? Evolution presents the idea (spiritually) that God hasn't finished creating - that even as He intervenes in our lives, and loves us, He is still molding us. And in the Big Bang model, you know what we are? We are remnants of stars, once shining very very bright and burning blazing hot that burst billions of years ago. To some people, that's a memorizing thought.

To think of how short your life is, and how old the earth is in this model, is very humbling. It's not a literal order of Genesis, but that's not the intent behind this model, as it drew its conclusions based on what we see now in the cosmos. Some tend to think that a map of creation, an instruction manual for would-be gods if you will (I jest), is not the point of Genesis. But the Creator and the creation itself is the point. To get hung up on the details, imo, is to miss the point and that is that the God who created everything has awesome power, creativity, and love. Creativity, the ability to bend and look at things in different ways. And you contradict that understanding in condemning others for such a belief, and it's not even related to one's salvation or not.

CS Lewis has some interesting things to say about this theory, as he appears to have leaned more towards it than YEC - yes, even after his conversion.

Taking DNA, and slowly morphing it, adapting to the environment generation upon generation. No way any of us could ever do that, either. You can say it's a man-made belief, it is is certainly not a model man himself can duplicate.
 
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For a "christian" to line up with such phoniness as evolution ,is a testimony to the ease with which the last days deception will take hold.

Evolution is the spawn of atheists.
Atheism is a religion.Atheism does not work with creationism,nor is it allowed to sit up to the same table.
Its priests are school teachers and professors
Its churches are schools and universities
Its bible is darwins origins of the feces
Its blood sacrifice is millions of unborn,horrifically slaughtered.
Its worship music is rap and rock,and country music.
Its "prophets" are the media and hollywood.
Its spirit dimension is satan and demons.

I take my stand with THE CREATOR,JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH AS AUTHENTICATED BY HIS LIFE AND PRESENCE TODAY,THE EMPTY TOMB,AND THE SCARS IN HIS HANDS FEET,AND SIDE.

THATS THE GOD I WILL WORSHIP AND I REFUSE TO BOW TO THE DEMON DUNGPILE OF EVOLUTION AND IT'S FATHER SATAN
Does anybody besides popeye agree with this post?
 

kodiak

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Why are you trying to waste my time?

I never said I was an expert on evolution. But I know where to go to find people who are. And it's not YEC pseudoscientific propaganda machines like ICR, AIG, and CMI.

Most everybody knows the story here.

YECs say the earth is around 6,000 years old. The "science" they use to "prove" that is not really science, as determined by major federal court decisions and that "science" has never, to my knowledge, been published in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals. Why? Because it's nonsense.

Then you have other Christians who believe that science does not conflict with the bible. I have mentioned several prominent ones.

I don't really care how old the earth is, exactly. I'll go with what the preponderance of credible scientific evidence indicates. And that evidence is overwhelming that the earth is somewhere in the vicinity of 4.6 billion years old. Most everybody knows where to find that information, right? Hint: A museum might be good unless it's like Ken Ham's.

Do I care if the earth is 2 billion years old? No. That is what the age of the earth was thought to be 50-75 years ago.

Now, you tell me it matters to a YEC whether the earth is around 6,000 years old or around 100,000 years old.
So the truth is a waste of time to you? All you keep saying is it is in scientific journals, therefore it is true.....Seriously, if you can't explain how they know the earth is billions of years old, why do you believe it?
You know the truth, that is why you refuse to answer how we know the earth is billions of years old....This science is not credible and you know for a fact that they use circular reasoning.