Is God Good?

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CharliRenee

CharliRenee

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God gave His only begotten Son = selfless love!!!

Jesus laid down His life = selfless love

Humans have blood on their hands for crucifying Him = selfiish hatred

Do we all agree God is Good? Is that something we want to go back and forth on?

Praise the Lord, His goodness is still alive and working in us.

Lord we have tasted you and know You are good. Thank You God, please open the eyes of our hearts more and more to You and Your Holy Goodness!!!

He is Holy, let us give Him praise and Glory. He remains on the throne and can not be dissected, bringing forth human analysis. He tells in depth of His character. He is righteous, loving and just!

Did God create lying, that which He can NOT do...NOOO

Did He create us with the choice to lie...Yes. Wow, how selfless of Him.

Slave for God is a bond-servent.

What is the difference? Choice

Our God wants all our service and devotion but He wants it willingly. He wants us to draw near because we are responding to Him, because we love Him, not because we have no choice.

My God set us free, not slaves to sin and death!!! Thank You, I am eternally grateful.
 
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Dave-L said:
Who killed the animals in the garden to provide coverings for Adam's and Eve's sin? That became the symbol of Christ's atonement for sin since creation?
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That is assumed.
Dave-L said:
Who killed the animals in the garden to provide coverings for Adam's and Eve's sin? That became the symbol of Christ's atonement for sin since creation?
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I think you are adding to scripture. Maybe Yahweh just likes meat. The laws for sin offerings and all offerings were given in Leviticus. God created us to serve Him. It demonstrates He likes being served meat, specifically barbecue. The pleasing aroma of burnt offerings. Perhaps the whole premise that everybody takes from loosely translated verses and builds their preconceived theology from is just wrong. Don’t assume. Just read. Maybe we were created in His image and likeness like it says. The biggest misnomer is that every time the translators read “elohim” or “theos” they inserted God ignoring legitimate meaning and attributing it all as the Father (Yahweh). Instead of grasping truth they attempted to nail this square peg into a round hole. Spirit is theos. Yahweh is theos, Yeshua is theos, even angels are theos but is doesn’t mean all are spirit.
 
CharliRenee

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Oh since some do not read long responses....

God is Good and COMPLETELY Blameless!!!
 
Dave-L

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Hungry said:
That is assumed.
I think you are adding to scripture. Maybe Yahweh just likes meat. The laws for sin offerings and all offerings were given in Leviticus. God created us to serve Him. It demonstrates He likes being served meat, specifically barbecue. The pleasing aroma of burnt offerings. Perhaps the whole premise that everybody takes from loosely translated verses and builds their preconceived theology from is just wrong. Don’t assume. Just read. Maybe we were created in His image and likeness like it says. The biggest misnomer is that every time the translators read “elohim” or “theos” they inserted God ignoring legitimate meaning and attributing it all as the Father (Yahweh). Instead of grasping truth they attempted to nail this square peg into a round hole. Spirit is theos. Yahweh is theos, Yeshua is theos, even angels are theos but is doesn’t mean all are spirit.
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You won't understand the atonement until you learn of its purpose and scope.
 
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Dave-L said:
If God did not kill Jesus in the place of sinners, none would be saved.
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Nah, you've been debunked by Scripture a dozen times. He gave up His life. And you talk about heresy. Basic common sense would tell you differently
 
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kaylagrl said:
So He didn't willingly die, none of us are saved.
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He had to be murdered. Because he did nothing worthy of death. Murder makes it obvious he was sinless. They justly kill criminals.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Nah, you've been debunked by Scripture a dozen times. He gave up His life. And you talk about heresy. Basic common sense would tell you differently
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Did he commit suicide?
 
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Dave-L said:
The Ecumenical Creeds of the historic Church.
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The Athanasian Creed is an example of misunderstanding. To avoid sounding irreverent to Christ or Yahweh or the Spirit, and yet maintain monotheism, they created a way to satisfy this cognitive dissonance. Instead of just saying maybe there is only one self-existent Almighty Jehovah, God of gods (elohim) like it says, they created a mystery where there is one God in three parts.
 
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Hungry said:
The Athanasian Creed is an example of misunderstanding. To avoid sounding irreverent to Christ or Yahweh or the Spirit, and yet maintain monotheism, they created a way to satisfy this cognitive dissonance. Instead of just saying maybe there is only one self-existent Almighty Jehovah, God of gods (elohim) like it says, they created a mystery where there is one God in three parts.
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So they think you are a heretic?
 
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Dave-L said:
You won't understand the atonement until you learn of its purpose and scope.
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I exactly understand it. You ignore it, because you refuse to read long posts. I completely explained it for you.
 
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Hungry said:
I exactly understand it. You ignore it, because you refuse to read long posts. I completely explained it for you.
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It's simple enough for a few words.
 
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kaylagrl

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Dave-L said:
He had to be murdered. Because he did nothing worthy of death. Murder makes it obvious he was sinless. They justly kill criminals.
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Nothing you said has any bearing on what I said. The Bible says He willingly went to the cross. So the Bible lied. Murdered people aren't willing people, thus the name murder.
 
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Dave-L said:
So they think you are a heretic?
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According to the theology they invented, even Jesus is a heretic, because He said first the Father is above Him and gives Him the authority. Also the Father sends the Spirit so above Him too.
 
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Hungry said:
According to the theology they invented, even Jesus is a heretic, because He said first the Father is above Him and gives Him the authority. Also the Father sends the Spirit so above Him too.
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So you are a heretic by Historic Church standards?
 
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kaylagrl said:
Nothing you said has any bearing on what I said. The Bible says He willingly went to the cross. So the Bible lied. Murdered people aren't willing people, thus the name murder.
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The premeditated killing of an innocent person = murder.
 
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