Is it a sin to drink alcohol

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posthuman

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1Co_10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
i truly am sorry that owing to your lack of faith, you are unable to receive these good things from God with thanksgiving.

maybe as you mature, and grow in knowledge of Him.
 

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Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you
hear Him, therefore

Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man;
but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
(Matthew 15:11)
repent!
 

WithinReason

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are you using the royal "we" here, or are there others there in your head with you?
No royal "we", and the only other in me is "Christ Jesus" by the Holy Ghost, through God's word.

The "we" refers to 'us' who are identified in Revelation 10 & 14.
 

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I have, am, and shall continue to do so. Salvation from sin in Christ Jesus (Matthew 1:21), in whom is no sin, and committed no sin, such as drinking false spirits, alcohol. The comparison of the false gospel, the alcoholic 'wine' of the Great Whore (Roman Catholicism) and the true gospel, the pure blood of the grape from the True Vine (Everlasting Gospel, Revelation 14:6-12).
Wine is wine, and it contains alcohol. You can't say that the wine that Jesus made was grape juice and not alcoholic and then say that wine is alcoholic when talking about perceived evil and bad things. You are not consistent in how you personally defined the word 'wine'. Either is contains alcohol or it does not. You can't have it both ways. You really need to pick your lane and stay there.
 

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Joh 2:10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

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WithinReason

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Wine is wine, and it contains alcohol.
No, as demonstrated from many scriptures.

Isa_65:8 Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.​
Deu_16:13 Thou shalt observe the feast of tabernacles seven days, after that thou hast gathered in thy corn and thy wine:​
Pro_3:10 So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.​
 

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You can't say that the wine that Jesus made was grape juice and not alcoholic and then say that wine is alcoholic when talking about perceived evil and bad things.
Yes, I can, as each context in scripture defines the 'wine' thereof.
 

WithinReason

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You are not consistent in how you personally defined the word 'wine'.
You have made a mistake. I have not personally defined anything (as that would be private interpretation), but rather, as scripture states, "interpretations belong unto God", and God already defined in His word.
 

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The Mo' You Know, the Mo' You (posthuman) are responsible for, for having rejected. It shall (and I prophesy based upon thus saith the LORD in the scripture) come before you again. Mark these words. They are true words, and even you know it already.
 

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The Mo' You Know, the Mo' You (posthuman) are responsible for, for having rejected. It shall (and I prophesy based upon thus saith the LORD in the scripture) come before you again. Mark these words. They are true words, and even you know it already.

Open your mouth for the speechless,
in the cause of all who are appointed to die.
Open your mouth, judge righteously,
and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
(Proverbs 30:8-9)
 

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You have made a mistake. I have not personally defined anything (as that would be private interpretation), but rather, as scripture states, "interpretations belong unto God", and God already defied in His word.
Scripture states that Jesus turned water into wine at the wedding of Cana. Wine, by its very nature and definition contains alcohol. You have denied this and stated that the wine did not contain alcohol. If it did not contain alcohol then Jesus turned water into grape juice. Scripture does not state this. You changed the definition of wine to fit your narrative that drinking alcohol is a sin, despite the many passages that state the drinking of wine may be acceptable but that drunkenness should be avoided.
 

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In these last days, the devil desires that the minds of mankind be not clear, but rather beclouded by all manner of brain injuring elements, one of which is alcohol.

He (the devil) knows that, if he can keep mankind in the dark, just a little longer, their lives are forfeit forever. If he can bring just the slightest befuddlement and keep the people there, they will choose wrongly, in the test coming.

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.​
Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.​

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,​
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.​
Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.​
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,​
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:​
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.​
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.​
 

WithinReason

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... If it did not contain alcohol then Jesus turned water into grape juice. ...
Yep. Grape Juice is also called "wine" in scripture. I gave many examples already, and even recently again.
 

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The Mo' You Know, the Mo' You (posthuman) are responsible for, for having rejected. It shall (and I prophesy based upon thus saith the LORD in the scripture) come before you again. Mark these words. They are true words, and even you know it already.
You cannot prophesy unless God has directed you to do so and has given you the words to say and who to say them to.