Is it a sin to drink alcohol
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Does not these verses say anything to any of you all ???
Proverbs 20:1 Wine [is] a mocker, strong drink [is] raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
Proberbs 23:30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, [when] it moveth itself aright.
23:32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
23:33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
23:34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
23:35 They have stricken me, [shalt thou say, and] I was not sick; they have beaten me, [and] I felt [it] not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.
Proverbs 20:1 Wine [is] a mocker, strong drink [is] raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
Proberbs 23:30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, [when] it moveth itself aright.
23:32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
23:33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
23:34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
23:35 They have stricken me, [shalt thou say, and] I was not sick; they have beaten me, [and] I felt [it] not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.
What do they have to do with the times God suggests drink for what ails a person? Nothing, is what.
You must think every person that has even a sip is deceived by drink
Could it be you have been deceived? Yeah.
You must think every person that has even a sip is deceived by drink
Could it be you have been deceived? Yeah.
highly doubtful butt!
hey, that's just my little bit if happiness, if you can hang out that is
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There are an abundance of writings from the the time of Christ about the process of wine making. See writers like Cato. There were even manuals with great details including how to keep wine from fermenting by keeping it in wine skins suspended in mountain streams that did not get below 52 degrees. This kind of wine was very expensive and only the wealthy could afford it.
There is an abundance of literature from the times including Plato about the common culture of diluting wine with 2 to 3 parts water to stretch it and use it for daily use and to avoid getting intoxicated. This was so common that historians don't even argue over it, they argue over whether the most common mixture was 2 parts or 3 parts water. That debate still rages, but no one debates that it was common to dilute it by at least 2 parts water. So there is plenty of documentation to support the claim that common wine used at everyday tables in 1st Century Judea was diluted and not the 11-13% you get from the stores today.
Try diluting your glass of wine with at least two thirds water so you can keep it real. Suddenly sipping saints are not as interested? LOL Check your motives. Health benefits can be received from the diluted glass. If that is what you were after nothing is lost. If it was the buzz, and you don't get it with the diluted glass now you can appreciate what it was like in 1st century Jewish tables.
Don't take my word for it. I have not done this yet, but I would imagine you could Google "Was wine diluted with 2 parts water in the 1st century" and find some of the literature in extant from that period that supports this. I learned it from a study on the Book of Acts for a college class last year. I will see if I can find some of the resources the author cited and post them later.
There is an abundance of literature from the times including Plato about the common culture of diluting wine with 2 to 3 parts water to stretch it and use it for daily use and to avoid getting intoxicated. This was so common that historians don't even argue over it, they argue over whether the most common mixture was 2 parts or 3 parts water. That debate still rages, but no one debates that it was common to dilute it by at least 2 parts water. So there is plenty of documentation to support the claim that common wine used at everyday tables in 1st Century Judea was diluted and not the 11-13% you get from the stores today.
Try diluting your glass of wine with at least two thirds water so you can keep it real.
Suddenly sipping saints are not as interested? LOL Check your motives. Health benefits can be received from the diluted glass. If that is what you were after nothing is lost. If it was the buzz, and you don't get it with the diluted glass now you can appreciate what it was like in 1st century Jewish tables. Don't take my word for it. I have not done this yet, but I would imagine you could Google "Was wine diluted with 2 parts water in the 1st century" and find some of the literature in extant from that period that supports this. I learned it from a study on the Book of Acts for a college class last year. I will see if I can find some of the resources the author cited and post them later.
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There was no refrigeration in those days so there was only two ways to preserve fruit. One was to make wine and the other was to dry it out. Wine and raisins. If not an entire grape harvest would be gone to ruin in a few days.
What I find most interesting is that they preferred new wine rather than aged wine. Where today aged wine is preferred.
What I find most interesting is that they preferred new wine rather than aged wine. Where today aged wine is preferred.
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These are advice given to a son in Proverbs yes.
The levite priesthood wasnt to have alcohol
The Bible also says things such as:
Deuteronomy 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
There again, even if we twist the wine into grape juice, the strong drink is still there. What is the strong drink in your opinion? Strong apple juice?
The levite priesthood wasnt to have alcohol
The Bible also says things such as:
Deuteronomy 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
There again, even if we twist the wine into grape juice, the strong drink is still there. What is the strong drink in your opinion? Strong apple juice?
Every year there is a rush to drink "new wine" in France, the Beaujolais harvest. It is a wonderful wine, and though I have only had it a few times, I know I love it.
This wine goes bad if not consumed soon after its production. I do not know why but I do know it is very good.
Maybe this wine is akin to the wine mentioned in the first miracle of our Lord?
This wine goes bad if not consumed soon after its production. I do not know why but I do know it is very good.
Maybe this wine is akin to the wine mentioned in the first miracle of our Lord?
