Is it Necessary to do the Will of the Father to Enter Into the Kingdom of Heaven?

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Dino246

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To enter the kingdom of Heaven, you must do the will of the father.
So step up and tell us: What, in your view, is "doing the will of the father"? Repeating yourself is silly if you don't explain yourself.
 

Cameron143

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Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Look at what Cameron143 actually believes.
You are a little disingenuous. You took what I wrote in part and void of context. Because you believe you don't need Christ to please God or that a supernatural spiritual transaction occurs in salvation, you have a form of godliness without any power.
I truly hope you will prayerfully consider all that I wrote.
 
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clearly yes,
it is necessary to believe in the Son.

John 6:39-40​
This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
for us, we cannot nor ever could physically see the Son, but we do Believe in Him.
 
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May I ask which church you attend? denomination in other words? I am asking because I see you have been saved but 3 years and we are to grow in Christ so I am wondering where you get fed since I saw you do attend church

Please answer respectfully as it is a reasonable question.
I never said I attend any denomination.
 
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is the Father's Will for You the same as the Father's Will for someone else?

now, doing the WILL of the Father has become compounded, as it should be. because, the Will of the Father individually is different for all of us in some specific area.
 
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So step up and tell us: What, in your view, is "doing the will of the father"? Repeating yourself is silly if you don't explain yourself.
Doing the will of the Father for those who are in Christ is doing anything which God is leading them to do.
 

Cameron143

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when 2 or more "are gathered" in My Name, I Am in the midst. Kingdom of God is wherever God is at.
The kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven are synonymous. And the kingdom exists wherever God rules and reigns. Since this is in the hearts of His people, wherever you find His people you have found the kingdom of God.
 
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No, we do not have to "do" anything to enter His kingdom outside of repentance, which is a gift from Him anyway. As a matter of fact, and I had to change my answer after giving it some thought first, but there is actually nothing we can do to enter His kingdom. I am in the kingdom right now along with everyone else that has been born again in truth since Acts 2. This question is also a little tricky because if we are saved then it was Gods will for that to be so. This comes back down to the osas vs the "we're in charge of our own sanctification by our own power" debate that rages around here.

Is it our "choice" that saves us. Do we "find Him", or does He draw us and grant us repentance? Does He get ALL glory for our salvation, or do we get a little bit because we choose right? I am of the belief that God does it all, every bit of it and gets every last bit of glory for it. I am not denying we have choice and a will of our own, I just don't think "free will" is the best way to describe what we have. His word tells us clearly that we are a slave of sin or slave of Christ, and if you were truly transformed by Jesus blood then you WILL obey (not "have to" obey), and cannot lose salvation. I believe He loses none the Father gives Him, and He will finish the good work He started in us. If He has transformed you then your life will reflect this fact and you will work hard not to sin and to glorify Him. It's not at all like some people on here try to sell, they make salvation a "chance" and say God drops a huge burden on us when we are born again, having to obey in order to "keep" salvation. I believe we work BECAUSE of salvation therefore He gets ALL glory for it, they teach we better obey "FOR" salvation and if they make it they get the credit for obeying better than those who lost theirs. A garbage way of teaching, and completely works based salvation. A false gospel.

So to enter the kingdom I say we have to be in Gods will for that to happen, but as far as having to "do" something, then not at all.
i would agree by also pointing out, however, we do have a lot of things that can be done to be separated from God, on our own end.

let's think about this. People, who [were given and used] had enough FAITH, to BELIEVE, the NAME of Jesus, could do miracles including casting out Demons and Prophesying. They successfully did this. but they still ended up like a Heretic, worker of Iniquity. almost reminds me of Calvin and Armini...

22. Many will say to me in that day, 'My Lord, my Lord, have we not prophesied in your name, and in your name have cast out demons, and have done many mighty works in your name?'
 
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The kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven are synonymous. And the kingdom exists wherever God rules and reigns. Since this is in the hearts of His people, wherever you find His people you have found the kingdom of God.
God's people are those who do His will. :)