Is Joseph the Father Of Christ According To The Flesh That was Promised to David?
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Now you are simply going off the deep end. The Holy Ghost is God the Holy Spirit, and what we are told is that Christ was conceived supernaturally by the power of the Holy Spirit. That is a far cry from *impregnated* (which also shows that you really don't understand this subject). And then to say that He should be listed in the human genealogy of Christ is to add insult to injury.
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Correct. It is very clear that Christ was born of the virgin Mary.
LUKE 1
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
I simply can't understand why Christians are so muddled about things which are plainly stated in Scripture. The only explanation is that the Enemy of our souls is working overtime in these days to confuse Christians about the fundamentals of their faith.
LUKE 1
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
I simply can't understand why Christians are so muddled about things which are plainly stated in Scripture. The only explanation is that the Enemy of our souls is working overtime in these days to confuse Christians about the fundamentals of their faith.
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Let’s look at Joseph and Mary’s reaction
Because they both knew they
Were his parents
Luk 2:48
And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
Luk 2:50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
I’m sure Joseph at this time would’ve spoken up and said something if He was not his father according to the flesh.
Because they both knew they
Were his parents
Luk 2:48
And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
Luk 2:50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
I’m sure Joseph at this time would’ve spoken up and said something if He was not his father according to the flesh.
All praises to FATHER AHAYAH YASHAYAH WA RAACH!
The word virgin in scripture is a title that was given to the young women.
It has nothing to do with their pureness.
The word virginity is used with someone’s pureness.
Mary was a virgin which means a young woman.
Here are Scriptures proving and confirming young women were called virgins not because of their pureness.
Genesis 24:16 [16]And the damsell was very faire to looke vpon, a virgine, neither had any man knowen her; and shee went downe to the wel, and filled her pitcher, and came vp.
Shows some virgins were pure
Some were NOT!
Judges 21:12 [12]And they found among the inhabitants of Iabesh Gilead, foure hundred yong virgins that had knowen no man, by lying with any male: and they brought them vnto the campe to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan.
Young men and young women
Notice why wasn't the young men called Virgins they too were pure!
Because that title was given only to the Young women!
Deuteronomy 32:25 [25]The sword without, and terrour within shall destroy both the yong man, and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray haires.
Lamentations 1:18 [18]¶ The Lord is righteous, for I haue rebelled against his commandement: heare, I pray you, all people, and behold my sorow: my virgins and my yong men are gone into captiuitie.
Lamentations 2:21 [21]The yong and the old lye on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my yong men are fallen by the sword: thou hast slaine them in the day of thy anger: thou hast killed, and not pitied.
Amos 8:13 [13]In that day shall the faire virgines and young men faint for thirst.
1 Maccabees 1:26 [26]So that the Princes and Elders mourned, the virgines and yong men were made feeble, and the beautie of women was changed.
Scriptures clearly gives understanding and brings truth to what the virgin birth really means!
That a young woman conceived a child by her husband.
Blessings!
The word virgin in scripture is a title that was given to the young women.
It has nothing to do with their pureness.
The word virginity is used with someone’s pureness.
Mary was a virgin which means a young woman.
Here are Scriptures proving and confirming young women were called virgins not because of their pureness.
Genesis 24:16 [16]And the damsell was very faire to looke vpon, a virgine, neither had any man knowen her; and shee went downe to the wel, and filled her pitcher, and came vp.
Shows some virgins were pure
Some were NOT!
Judges 21:12 [12]And they found among the inhabitants of Iabesh Gilead, foure hundred yong virgins that had knowen no man, by lying with any male: and they brought them vnto the campe to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan.
Young men and young women
Notice why wasn't the young men called Virgins they too were pure!
Because that title was given only to the Young women!
Deuteronomy 32:25 [25]The sword without, and terrour within shall destroy both the yong man, and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray haires.
Lamentations 1:18 [18]¶ The Lord is righteous, for I haue rebelled against his commandement: heare, I pray you, all people, and behold my sorow: my virgins and my yong men are gone into captiuitie.
Lamentations 2:21 [21]The yong and the old lye on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my yong men are fallen by the sword: thou hast slaine them in the day of thy anger: thou hast killed, and not pitied.
Amos 8:13 [13]In that day shall the faire virgines and young men faint for thirst.
1 Maccabees 1:26 [26]So that the Princes and Elders mourned, the virgines and yong men were made feeble, and the beautie of women was changed.
Scriptures clearly gives understanding and brings truth to what the virgin birth really means!
That a young woman conceived a child by her husband.
Blessings!
So now you are indeed showing your true colors. You are out to deny the virgin birth of Christ, which means that you are a messenger of Satan.
It is quite amazing how so many people with so many false doctrines are coming out of the woodwork and trying to confuse Christians with their lies.
It is quite amazing how so many people with so many false doctrines are coming out of the woodwork and trying to confuse Christians with their lies.
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All praises to Ahayah Yashaya Wa Raach!
Nehemiah6,
Every scripture I posted lines up in truth and shows how it all connected.
Go back and reread them instead of attacking me.
The evil one has no place in any of the scriptures I posted.
I do know that Ahayah God said He’ll send a strong delusion to those who love not the truth: let’s read
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceiueablenesse of vnrighteousnesse, in them that perish: because they receiued not the loue of the trueth, that they might be saued.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should beleeue a lye:
2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might bee damned who beleeued not the trueth, but had pleasure in Unrighteousness
Nehemiah6,
Every scripture I posted lines up in truth and shows how it all connected.
Go back and reread them instead of attacking me.
The evil one has no place in any of the scriptures I posted.
I do know that Ahayah God said He’ll send a strong delusion to those who love not the truth: let’s read
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceiueablenesse of vnrighteousnesse, in them that perish: because they receiued not the loue of the trueth, that they might be saued.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should beleeue a lye:
2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might bee damned who beleeued not the trueth, but had pleasure in Unrighteousness
Although that verse has a future application, for the present there are only two options: (1) either you are deluded or (2) you are dedicated to deluding others.
Here is the proof in your words: "Mary was a virgin which means a young woman".
This is an attempt to contradict what is clearly revealed in Luke 1. And who was the one who started contradicting God in the Garden of Eden? He is still at it through people like you.
Here is the proof in your words: "Mary was a virgin which means a young woman".
This is an attempt to contradict what is clearly revealed in Luke 1. And who was the one who started contradicting God in the Garden of Eden? He is still at it through people like you.
All praises to Ahayah Yashaya Wa Raach!
Scripture says Christ was the first created who then created everything
By design of the Father.
Ahayah GOD always existed.
There was time when HE was alone before Christ and the Holy Spirit were created.
Christ is called God by God in scripture so He is God the son but not God the Father and the Holy Spirit is God but not the Father.
These 3 agree in one
Scripture says Christ was the first created who then created everything
By design of the Father.
Ahayah GOD always existed.
There was time when HE was alone before Christ and the Holy Spirit were created.
Christ is called God by God in scripture so He is God the son but not God the Father and the Holy Spirit is God but not the Father.
These 3 agree in one
Christ the spiritual seed remains without beginning or end of spirit life. He does not have any physical lines. The lines had to do with a one time outward demonstration of a work not seen .The pouring out of the Holy Spirit on flesh .
God is not a man as us and nither is their a flesh nediator set between him not seen and man seen.. Jesus says His flesh profits for nothing.
God is not a man as us and nither is their a flesh nediator set between him not seen and man seen.. Jesus says His flesh profits for nothing.
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Yash yash yeesheeyaoheajeaohe to you as well.
Now that we got the fake hebrew israelite paleo-hebrew (language nobody outside of few black hebrew (and sometimes racist) israelites on the internet speaks and is made up completely, check the scholars) out the way, which already triggered me that something was wrong.
Here is the problem: The Bible is CLEAR that Joseph was not Jesus' physical mother, through procreation as we would do it. This is clear because Joseph is about to call the wedding off for this! Now had something already taken place, intimately speaking, WHY would JOseph be shocked that Mary is pregnant? Come on people.
Guys I tried to write a nice message but it aint my style, YALL KNOW WHAT IT IS. I just get riled up because if you deny the virgin birth well you deny Christianity pretty much. And if Jesus was Joseph's physical son then he is just another joe-shmoe born in sin like all the rest of us, and his claim to being God in the flesh would be nothing but a lie.
Now that we got the fake hebrew israelite paleo-hebrew (language nobody outside of few black hebrew (and sometimes racist) israelites on the internet speaks and is made up completely, check the scholars) out the way, which already triggered me that something was wrong.
Here is the problem: The Bible is CLEAR that Joseph was not Jesus' physical mother, through procreation as we would do it. This is clear because Joseph is about to call the wedding off for this! Now had something already taken place, intimately speaking, WHY would JOseph be shocked that Mary is pregnant? Come on people.
Guys I tried to write a nice message but it aint my style, YALL KNOW WHAT IT IS. I just get riled up because if you deny the virgin birth well you deny Christianity pretty much. And if Jesus was Joseph's physical son then he is just another joe-shmoe born in sin like all the rest of us, and his claim to being God in the flesh would be nothing but a lie.
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I kinda knew that more problems were coming.
Heresies usually come in bundles dont they?
Now; Can you explain to me why yall paleo-hebrew scholars cant agree what name to use? Is it Ahayah Yashaya Wa Raach OR is it Yahawashi, bahasham yahawah and all that? Come on guys!
But now you are saying that even the Holy Spirit was created? Even the arians didnt believe that! I understand people might think the Son was created later on since there are verses that seem to indicate it IF yo dont take into account ALL OF SCRIPTURE which lists Jesus as the ALPHA AND OMEGA the same titles as the Father, etc. etc etc.
But to suggest the Holy Spirit was created, is a new and wild idea for sure. Have you read Genesis? The SPIRIT (That would be God's spirit, the HOLY SPIRIT, unless you believe those are separate?) is there. And God SPOKE (Word, Jesus) is also there.
Look, the only way you can make your story fit the Bible narrative is by somehow claiming that the Holy Spirit put David's physical seed inside Mary. Why is that? Because otherwise the verses about Joseph being surprised of Mary's pregnancy make NO SENSE whatsoever.
(Btw mods dont delete that please, i didnt write it with blasphemy in mind, I was just making a point about how he has to in his theory to combine the physical seed of DAvid with the verses that mention Holy Ghost)
Heresies usually come in bundles dont they?
Now; Can you explain to me why yall paleo-hebrew scholars cant agree what name to use? Is it Ahayah Yashaya Wa Raach OR is it Yahawashi, bahasham yahawah and all that? Come on guys!
But now you are saying that even the Holy Spirit was created? Even the arians didnt believe that! I understand people might think the Son was created later on since there are verses that seem to indicate it IF yo dont take into account ALL OF SCRIPTURE which lists Jesus as the ALPHA AND OMEGA the same titles as the Father, etc. etc etc.
But to suggest the Holy Spirit was created, is a new and wild idea for sure. Have you read Genesis? The SPIRIT (That would be God's spirit, the HOLY SPIRIT, unless you believe those are separate?) is there. And God SPOKE (Word, Jesus) is also there.
Look, the only way you can make your story fit the Bible narrative is by somehow claiming that the Holy Spirit put David's physical seed inside Mary. Why is that? Because otherwise the verses about Joseph being surprised of Mary's pregnancy make NO SENSE whatsoever.
(Btw mods dont delete that please, i didnt write it with blasphemy in mind, I was just making a point about how he has to in his theory to combine the physical seed of DAvid with the verses that mention Holy Ghost)
Christ is the Holy Spirit.
Two walking together as one work of faith in agreement to one Spirit. . . God
Scripture says Christ as the anointing Holy Spirit as the lamb of God was slain from the foundation of the world . Not after the demonstration of the finished work.
He created the Son of man, Jesus to be used as one time outward demonstration of the lamb who had already been slain.
By design of the Father and the Son as one God . The two attributes working together in perfect harmony and submissiveness in order to form the government they performed the one time demonstration of the previous work .