Is Joseph the Father Of Christ According To The Flesh That was Promised to David?

Hevosmies358 · Aug 9, 2019

Amen brother Nehemiah! TELL EM!

Its unbelievable I dont know whats going on. This aint rocket science! We got people today with so much knowledge and education, but they cant figure out plain statements like Jesus being born of a virgin. YIKES!

Also think about what he is saying basically: It says in those verses the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. Now if he is claiming Joseph was the father, thats like calling Joseph the Holy Spirit in that verse.

Is Joseph called the father of Jesus by some people in the Bible? Yes.
Jesus is also called the son of DAVID in the BIble, thats true.

BUT The BIble also says of this same Jesus called the son of David, who inherits David's throne (God in the flesh inheriting something, wrap your heads aroudn that!) this:

Matthew 22:45 “If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?”

Hevosmies358 · Aug 9, 2019

garee said:

WHAT?

So:

The HOly Spirit (Jesus) has to go away, so that the Holy Spirit (Jesus) can come which the Father will send in Jesus' (Holy Spirit's) name?

Thats tough.

Jesus is not the Holy Spirit, nor is the Holy Spirit Jesus.

Its so simple no need to complicate it:

God is the Father well we all agree thats God. No debate there! (I HOPE)
Jesus is the Son of the Father, the Word of God made flesh. God in the flesh.
The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit

SIMPLE!

maxwel · Aug 9, 2019

Azawah's Theological Points ... so far:

1. Christ was not born of a virgin
2. Christ was created, not eternal
3. Holy Spirit was created, not eternal

These 3 points generate conflict with almost every tenet of the Christian faith.
Nicely done.

Deuteronomy · Aug 9, 2019

Azawah said:

Hi Azawah, what does "these 3 agree in one" mean in regards to God?

Also, can a "god" be "created"

Even if that ~could~ happen, the Lord Himself tells us plainly that it did not/will not happen, ever, that He alone is both our God and our Savior, from everlasting to everlasting.

Isaiah 43

10 "Before Me there was no God formed,

And there will be none after Me.

11 I, even I, am the LORD,

And there is no Savior besides Me."

Isaiah 44

6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts:

"I am the first and I am the last,

And there is no God besides Me."

Isaiah 45

5 “I am the LORD, and there is no other;

Besides Me there is no God.

In regard to what you've told us so far about your religion, a number of things don't seem to be adding up! For instance, Jesus is referred to as our "Savior" throughout the NT .. cf Titus 2:13, but God tells us that He alone is Savior. How can this be

Finally, Jesus & the Holy Spirit are to be worshipped and praised because they are God (you, in fact, praise Jesus at the top of most or all of your posts here, yes?), but such worship is meant for God alone, not for ~any~ of His creatures .. Romans 1:25; Revelation 22:8-9. So if Jesus is merely a created being, why do you praise and worship Him?

Thanks!

~Deut

Isaiah 9

6 Unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given:

And the government shall be upon His shoulder:

And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God,

The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end,

Upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom,

To order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice

From henceforth even for ever.

The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

.

Azawah · Aug 9, 2019

All praises to Ahayah Yashaya Wa Raach!

Scripture tells us that There is coming a time when we Israelites will be speaking our own language again (paleo Hebrew) and not this stammering tongue called English Anymore!
We’ll be speaking Only in the Jews language!

Let me help you understand some paleo Hebrew.

Ahayah Ashar Ahayah means:
I am that I am
This is the only name he gave to Moses when He said tell them I am hath sent thee.

Yasha means Savior - ya means my

Wa Raach mean Holy Spirit

Bahasham means in the name of

Yahawashi means deliverer

Also the Scribes and Pharisees didn’t agree on everything but we are all still the Children Of Israel!

Hevosmies358 · Aug 9, 2019

maxwel said:

Based on the fake hebrew (or paleo hebrew as they call it) he/she is part of the black (sometimes racist) hebrew israelites. They do this language nobody has ever heard of, yahawashi bahasham etc. and they also believe the same way that Jesus was not born of a virgin, deny the trintiy etc.
You can check em out on youtube. They are fake jews trying to steal the real jewish identity, probably due to low self-esteem and lack of roots. Which is understable due to the horrors of the slavetrade, yet lying still aint fine!
The joke is: None of these guys can hold a conversation in paleo hebrew. Come on guys, yall gotta stop embarrasing yourself with that.

Im from Finland and im blushing! Fake jews!

Deuteronomy · Aug 9, 2019

Azawah said:

Where does the Bible tell us that, in the future, English is out and Hebrew is in

Thanks!

~Deut

dcontroversal · Aug 9, 2019

maxwel said:

Sounds like a False Jehovah's Witness........

Azawah · Aug 9, 2019

All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!

To the fella from Finland,
We are in fact according to scriptures the Children of Israel and can prove it.

As for your fake Jewish people who does not fulfill one prophecy
Christ warned us about them:

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and pouertie, but thou art rich, and I know the blasphemie of them which say they are Iewes and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Iewes, and are not, but doe lie: behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feete, and to know that I haue loued thee.

Nehemiah6 · Aug 9, 2019

dcontroversal said:

Actually Iit is an Illuminati cult: YHWH/YHVH AND AHAYAH (THE ILLUMINATI KNOWS THAT THE NAME OF THE MOST HIGH IS “AHAYAH”)

1. They reject YHWH and claim that "I AM" = AHAYAH rather than "Ehyeh".

2. They claim that Jehovah = Baal (the pagan god)

3. They claim that Yeshua or Yashua is incorrect and that it should be YASHIA/YASHAYAH

You will notice all this in one of Azawah's posts. All red flags.

"All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!"

Another cultist. Now all we need are some Rastafarians!

Azawah · Aug 9, 2019

All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!

I do know that Jehovah is the jewish national name for God so if your jewish that’s what you call him.

Also Our alphabet doesn’t have vowel points dots whatever that is. No u, e, o sounds either. Just ah and I.

I see you’ve done some research!

Azawah · Aug 9, 2019

Deuteronomy said:

All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!

1 John 5:7 For there are three that beare record in heauen, the Father, the Word, and the holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1 John 5:8 And there are three that beare witnesse in earth, the Spirit, and the Water, and the Blood, and these three agree in one.

Deuteronomy · Aug 9, 2019

Azawah said:

Hello again Azawah, I'm confused, where in these two verses that you posited for us does it tell us that, "there is coming a time when we Israelites will be speaking our own language again (paleo Hebrew) and not this stammering tongue called English Anymore!"

Thanks!

~Deut

maxwel · Aug 9, 2019

Azawah said:

Uhhh... and those verses don't say anything about Hebrew.

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Azawah · Aug 9, 2019

Deuteronomy said:

All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!

After our forefathers came off of the slaveships and sold into slavery
(Deuteronomy 28:68) they were forced to learn English the stammering tongue we speak today.

Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speake to this people.
Isaiah 33:19 Thou shalt not see a fierce people, a people of a deeper speech then thou canst perceiue; of a stammering tongue, that thou canst not understand

But soon:
Zephaniah 3:9 For then will I turne to the people a pure language, that they may all call vpon the Name of the Lord, to serue him with one consent.

We are the only generation of the Children of Israel who lost our language in captivity.

maxwel · Aug 9, 2019

Black Hebrew Israelites

Whoever mentioned this previously was right;
this seems to be the latest stuff from the Black Hebrew Israelites.

I went poking around.

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Azawah · Aug 9, 2019

All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!

We Hebrews also called Jews from Judea were always people of color in the Bible
So were the Egyptians who are African people.

2 separate nations of Black people
Hebrews and Africans

maxwel · Aug 9, 2019

Azawah said:

Black Hebrew Israelites - Questions:

Ok, well, since you've confirmed you're part of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, and there are different groups and beliefs within that movement... I have some questions.

1. First of all, do you think white people are ok, or do you think white people are devils?

2. Next, how do you feel about jews?

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posthuman · Aug 9, 2019

Azawah said:

(said of Solomon, who is without controversy an Hebrew) :

My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

(Song of Songs 5:10)

posthuman · Aug 9, 2019

Azawah said:

Deuteronomy 28:68 happens to say they would try to sell themselves as slaves but no one would buy them

you'd be a whole lot more persuasive if the scripture you cite didn't directly contradict you.
what, did you think no one would look it up? or do you yourself have no idea what you are even saying?

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