Is Joseph the Father Of Christ According To The Flesh That was Promised to David?

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posthuman

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why don't people listen?

veils are frustrating things.
 

posthuman

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Now all we need are some Rastafarians!
Haile Selassie denied over and over and over again, his whole life, that he was some kind of messiah!
idiot rastifarians wouldn't even listen to their own idol!


we have plenty of people with their ears stuffed full of mud, refusing to listen to correction, taking no rebuke to heart!
 

maxwel

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Halle Selassi denied over and over and over again, his whole life, that he was some kind of messiah!
idiot rastifarians wouldn't even listen to their own idol!


we have plenty of people with their ears stuffed full of mud, refusing to listen to correction, taking no rebuke to heart!
At least the Rastas don't argue so much, they're too... mmm... I guess the polite term is relaxed.

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All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!

First, this is not a movement, the world is witnessing the awakening of His People back to our true identity that was stolen!

To think that white people are devils is wrong. Why?
For one Ahayah said:
Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visite the Gentiles to take out of them a people for his Name.
So how can they be devils???

They are Identity thieves that Christ spoke about in Rev 2:9 and 3:9

But I also know that most don’t know they are Not the Biblical Jews because they will one day say this:
Jeremiah 16:19 O Lord, my strength and my fortresse, and my refuge in the day of affliction; the Gentiles shall come vnto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say; Surely our fathers haue inherited lyes, vanitie, and things wherein there is no profit.
 
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All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!

What version are you reading? it’s not a KJV!
Deuteronomy 28:68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt againe, with ships, by the way whereof I spake vnto thee, Thou shalt see it no more againe: and there ye shall bee sold vnto your enemies for bondmen, and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.


Your version makes no sense!
Auction blocks in this country confirms that our forefathers were sold.
It was done as the scripture said.
 

maxwel

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They are Identity thieves that Christ spoke about in Rev 2:9 and 3:9
Irony
A group of black Americans claim to be Israelites,
then accuse others of being identity thieves ...
ummmm.

To Any Readers:
For the record, I'm only being specific in using the word "black" because that is how they specify and identify themselves.
The Black Hebrew Israelites constitute a movement among some black Americans who claim that black Americans are Israelites.
It is a racially polarized religion, and it's entire structure is built upon the issue of race.

They are NOT Christians, they don't believe the things Christians believe, and most of their groups don't want to be called Christian.

Which make me question why Azawah is on a Christian forum.
:rolleyes:
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Irony
A group of black Americans claim to be Israelites,
then accuse others of being identity thieves ...
ummmm.

To Any Readers:
For the record, I'm only being specific in using the word "black" because that is how they specify and identify themselves.
The Black Hebrew Israelites constitute a movement among some black Americans who claim that black Americans are Israelites.
It is a racially polarized religion, and it's entire structure is built upon the issue of race.

They are NOT Christians, they don't believe the things Christians believe, and most of their groups don't want to be called Christian.

Which make me question why Azawah is on a Christian forum.
:rolleyes:
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All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!

Israelites were first called Christians not gentiles.

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him vnto Antioch. And it came to passe, that a whole yeere they assembled themselues with the Church, and taught much people, and the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Also Deuteronomy 28:68 shows 2 prophecies in this scripture that happened to His people so I ask when did this happen to the white jewish people so I can research it online.

Deuteronomy 28:68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt againe, with ships, by the way whereof I spake vnto thee, Thou shalt see it no more againe: and there ye shall bee sold vnto your enemies for bondmen, and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

Slaveships and being sold into slavery.
 

posthuman

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What version are you reading? it’s not a KJV!
Deuteronomy 28:68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt againe, with ships, by the way whereof I spake vnto thee, Thou shalt see it no more againe: and there ye shall bee sold vnto your enemies for bondmen, and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.


Your version makes no sense!
Auction blocks in this country confirms that our forefathers were sold.
It was done as the scripture said.
1587 GNV

ye shall sell yourselves unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and there shall be no buyer.
the 1611 KJV made many changes to the Bible that already existed in English. they changed this verse, for example, but the truth is still in there:

and no man shall buy you
we're not talking about African slave trade of the 18th - 19th century here.
people bought them.
the scripture you are citing says "
no man shall buy you"

if you can't understand the language i suggest you read a translation that you can understand?

here it is in Hebrew:

וְהִתְמַכַּרְתֶּ֨ם
the form is Hithpa`el, so it means "to sell ones self" ((see also 1 Kings 21:20 & 25; 2 Kings 17:17 where the same grammatical structure is used))
 
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All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya
Wa Raach

I’ve never heard of GNV what is that?

In Deuteronomy 28:68 Only Hebrews were prophecied to go into slavery off of slaveships not Africans.
There’s NO prophecy of Africans going into slavery by ships.

When did white jewish people live in the west coast of Africa amongst the African people and went into slaveships from there?

No man shall buy you means redeem you from. Or get you out of that situation. This is what Israelites would do for each other in ancient times.

Yiddish Hebrew is not Hebrew
I’ve heard a jewish rabbi admit that they don’t speak real Hebrew but yiddish.

They’ve lied to the world and convinced you also!
 
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WHAT?

So:

The HOly Spirit (Jesus) has to go away, so that the Holy Spirit (Jesus) can come which the Father will send in Jesus' (Holy Spirit's) name?

Thats tough.

Jesus is not the Holy Spirit, nor is the Holy Spirit Jesus.

Its so simple no need to complicate it:

God is the Father well we all agree thats God. No debate there! (I HOPE)
Jesus is the Son of the Father, the Word of God made flesh. God in the flesh.
The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit

SIMPLE!
Hi thanks. I will try and explain. Its seems complicated if all things are not taken into account. But is simple from the other end.

God does not have flesh.

The Spirit of Christ (the anointing one) is the anointing Holy Spirit of God .(No difference) He has no beginning of days or end of spirit life. Supernatural without nature. . a beginning.

Hebrews 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Jesus said I and the father are one Spirit (God) working together performing one work of faith or labor of love. One baptism of the Holy Spirit both working together as one to form the government of God. . as two walking together in prefect harmony and submissiveness to one another. as a joint work they as one God bring the peace of God that does surpass our limited understanding.

Loving Authority ( the father). . .+. . .Willing Submission.(the Son) . . =. . . Peace and Blessing.

The father is in a greater place but not a greater person

One faith as one work of two... working together seems to be overlooked. The focus is on two never one.

Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism

In regard to the Holy Spirit the anointing Spirit of God (Christ) as the Son of man Jesus he refused to stand in the Holy unseen place of the unseen Father as the source of faith but rather gave glory to the unseen father When men did want to glory in His flesh (good master ) which he says of his own flesh it profits for nothing.

The same reason blasphemy was forgiven against the Son of man. . seen the temporal ,but not forgiven against Him not seen, the eternal. "No credit to the flesh," zip nada

God is not a man (creation) as us and neither is there a fleshly mediator (daysman) set between God and man . Jesus refused to stand in that place the abomination of desecration by giving glory to what the eyes see.

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt
 
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All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!
Don't know that god. Is there a English translation?

We are lovingly commanded to know no man after the flesh (what the eyes see) Some glory in it.

Not all Israel are the true born again Israelites. . . some are outward Jews pertaining to the corrupted flesh of mankind as deceivers. . or Jacobs.

Israelites are named after Israel a "word" which means, as the Holy Spirit defines His thoughts ...: "He who wrestles with flesh and blood (mankind) and God not seen an overcomes his unbelief,( no faith) by the power of God.. Those Israelites were later renamed again and called Christians when defined meaning. Residents of the Holy City prepared as His bride the church named after her founder Christ) That he named in Acts , not gentiles. Gentiles belong to the class of Jacob (deceiver) .The non born again name.

Beautiful parable given in the old testament that walks us through the effects of the gospel working in the affairs of men.

Sarah had two nations in her. One to represent faith "belief in God . . . coming from God and not our own self. " And the other "no faith" as a unbeliever. To provide I believe a beautiful picture of a born again work of the gospel .He uses Jacob the deceiver as one that does wrestle against flesh and blood (grabs the heel of Ismael) having no rest or aid from God not seen. Jacob shown trying to rob the first born rights as did Cain . Christ is the first born as the Son of God. This showed that unconverted Jacob must be born again by the power of the first born unseen . He wrestled down Jacob and won the match . Didn't even break a sweat...


Genesis 32: 24-28 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
 

Dino246

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All praises to Ahayah Bahasham Yashaya Wa Raach!

What version are you reading? it’s not a KJV!
Deuteronomy 28:68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt againe, with ships, by the way whereof I spake vnto thee, Thou shalt see it no more againe: and there ye shall bee sold vnto your enemies for bondmen, and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.


Your version makes no sense!
Auction blocks in this country confirms that our forefathers were sold.
It was done as the scripture said.
Azawah, do you align with or consider yourself part of the 'Black Hebrew Israelites'?
 
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Hevosmies358

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Black Hebrew Israelites

Whoever mentioned this previously was right;
this seems to be the latest stuff from the Black Hebrew Israelites.

I went poking around.

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Called it! I know my cults!

They are very racist and anti-semitic.

Fake jews! I hate it!
 

BillG

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Azawah, do you align with or consider yourself part of the 'Black Hebrew Israelites'?
Azawah post from another thread.
I use to think Christ was white until I read The Blessings and curses GOD put on HIS people in Deuteronomy 28.

This is GOD’s WORD we are talking about!

It list Blessings and Curses that will be on HIS people to identify them.

Negroes or Jewish people:
Someone is lying!
Put both up side by side and compared!

Question was when did these curses happen and on whom did they happen to?
By process of elimination those curses only fit one people. HIS people the Negroes!
When I saw the curses of being SOLD into slavery and slaveships

The jewish people were never sold into slavery neither were they forced here on slaveships.
Deuteronomy 28:68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt againe, with ships, by the way whereof I spake vnto thee, Thou shalt see it no more againe: and there ye shall bee sold vnto your enemies for bondmen, and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you
 

Dino246

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Azawah post from another thread.
I use to think Christ was white until I read The Blessings and curses GOD put on HIS people in Deuteronomy 28.

This is GOD’s WORD we are talking about!

It list Blessings and Curses that will be on HIS people to identify them.

Negroes or Jewish people:
Someone is lying!
Put both up side by side and compared!

Question was when did these curses happen and on whom did they happen to?
By process of elimination those curses only fit one people. HIS people the Negroes!
When I saw the curses of being SOLD into slavery and slaveships

The jewish people were never sold into slavery neither were they forced here on slaveships.
Deuteronomy 28:68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt againe, with ships, by the way whereof I spake vnto thee, Thou shalt see it no more againe: and there ye shall bee sold vnto your enemies for bondmen, and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you
If that's what he believes, he is obviously unfamiliar with history. Tens of thousands of Jews were sold into slavery between 65 and 75 AD. Then again, if he is aligned with the BHI's, he's quaffed deeply of pseudohistory already.
 

BillG

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Yep I pointed that out.

He also said

I watched documentaries about the holocaust and not ONE of those curses
Applied to those people so who’s lying I ask?
I believe the WORD and will always!

Either you believe the WORD or you don’t!
You can’t make GOD’s people be who you want them to be!

My response

I cannot believe you posted the above quote.

The Nazis considered them worthless as well.
How on earth can you say they were not cursed or not slaves.

It's you who is lying to promote your brainwashed mind.

And to be honest the word that you have read, the paper it is written on I wouldn't even use it to wipe my ass after having a poo.