Is keeping the Commandments and Laws of God Needed for Eternal Life?

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hermanodaniel

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Is keeping the Commandments and Laws of God Needed for Eternal Life?
I am sorry bro, This thread is about commandments and laws of god bro.
and Yes you do have to keep his laws, Carnal.
Yes but clearly NOT after the letter which the author of this thread falsely believes (and to the author Ecc 12 & 13 if I am wrong please tell me). We are to obey God and His Law's but NOT after the letter which pertains to the flesh that is now dead in Christ. Again this is where the confusion lies, so in other words, there is a FALSE understanding that we must observe the Sabbath or dietary laws or Feasts in ORDER to be saved or be considered obedient. This clearly not the Gospel as we no longer walk after the shadows but the realities found In Christ which is after the spirit.
 
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Sonofjesuschrist

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Yes but clearly NOT after the letter which the author of this thread falsely believes (and to the author Ecc 12 & 13 if I am wrong please tell me). We are to obey God and His Law's but NOT after the letter which pertains to the flesh that is now dead in Christ. Again this is where the confusion lies, so in other words, there is a FALSE understanding that we must observe the Sabbath or dietary laws or Feasts in ORDER to be saved or be considered obedient. This clearly not the Gospel as the we no longer walk after the shadows but the realities found In Christ which is after the spirit.
bro do you have Ur bible on hand I will proof to you that you should keep the sabbath
on the new testament, will it make a difference? are you open for change ?
 
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Ask yourself, are you only in this for the prize?

Your heart will tell you the answer.

Understand God's nature, through the life and attitude of Jesus, then ask yourself the same question again.
 
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Sonofjesuschrist

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Ask yourself, are you only in this for the prize?

Your heart will tell you the answer.

Understand God's nature, through the life and attitude of Jesus, then ask yourself the same question again.
Bro Jesus christ came with a different message, than what you believe.
You ARE a little confussed.
 
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Jesus Christ died for OTHERS to glorify God and complete the fulfillment of the law.

He lived a selfless life devoted to honouring God and helping others.
 
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He who is first will be last.

We must give up our lives.

The mark of the beast is on our 'heads' and our 'hands'.

The head is the intent. And the hands are what carry out action.

Self servitude is self servitude no matter which way it spins.

The heart is what matters.

JEsus tells us the kingdom of God is within us.
 
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hermanodaniel

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bro do you have Ur bible on hand I will proof to you that you should keep the sabbath
on the new testament, will it make a difference? are you open for change ?
AH THEN WE ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT FROM THE START... The Scriptures do not teach we are to keep the Sabbath day in the form of the letter (that is the physical day of rest) for that is the shadow of the true rest in Christ. if you want to dialogue let's go into a chat room to make it easier. Let's go into an empty room I will be in the Spanish room after you read this. for 15 minutes or so.
 
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Sonofjesuschrist

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Jesus Christ died for OTHERS to glorify God and complete the fulfillment of the law.

He lived a selfless life devoted to honouring God and helping others.
Bro just by you having a picture of gundhy is a little discouraging to me, I love all my human brothers and sisters how ever god did not come only to bring peace, he came to divide.
Brother I love the holy scriptures, and when people start putting things under the banner of love. you loose the message. and all other things first of all gunghy was a guru.





 
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He said 'I like your Christ, but not your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ'.

Divide what from what?

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“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
 
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Sonofjesuschrist

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He said 'I like your Christ, but not your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ'.

Divide what from what?

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“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
thats just so sorry to hear you say cause it sounds to me like ur in love with gundhy rather than the god who created gundhy,
Also let me correct you out of bro.
most of the people who have helped third world countrys like india africa you name it are christians not considering they have killed 75,000,000 million christians for there faith around the world just in this century, would you be willing to die for ur faith in christ and not deny him. in countrys where if ur christian they will kill you.
Let me also say that in america we are the luke warm people in revelations.
yes a lot of people run around saying there christians when they are not but there is nothing new under the sun. its not hard to see ur some what budda or hindu. that is a little extreme.
 
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thats just so sorry to hear you say cause it sounds to me like ur in love with gundhy rather than the god who created gundhy,
Also let me correct you out of bro.
most of the people who have helped third world countrys like india africa you name it are christians not considering they have killed 75,000,000 million christians for there faith around the world just in this century, would you be willing to die for ur faith in christ and not deny him. in countrys where if ur christian they will kill you.
Let me also say that in america we are the luke warm people in revelations.
yes a lot of people run around saying there christians when they are not but there is nothing new under the sun. its not hard to see ur some what budda or hindu. that is a little extreme.
My tongue is the same as my type.

And my merciful God does not love me any more or less than He loves you.
 
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Sonofjesuschrist

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My tongue is the same as my type.

And my merciful God does not love me any more or less than He loves you.
I pray to the one and true god of the torah and the new testament for he is the same god.

I am sorry but you pray to the wind. there is only one god and if you refuse
the bible even one passage of it. Ur refussing the true god.
All the gods of all the nations are all IDOLS.
 
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All the gods of all the nations are all IDOLS.


IDOL - An image or representation of a god used as an object of worship.

So indeed, our representation of God seems to differ.
 
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Sonofjesuschrist

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All the gods of all the nations are all IDOLS.


IDOL - An image or representation of a god used as an object of worship.

So indeed, our representation of God seems to differ.
o.k. Lets both agree to disagree.
there is only one way to heaven that is jesus christ.
do you agree??
 
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For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth--those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me."

The judging of others was left to Jesus.

Yet, Jesus told the Pharisees:

You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.

He also told the adulteress woman 'Nor do I condemn you, go forth and sin no more'.

Notice his instruction to her was to sin no more.

for the Kingdom of God is WITHIN US.

It is not outside me, my friend, nor you. It is not something we can point at nor judge nor see with our eyes.
 
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Sonofjesuschrist

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For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth--those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me."

The judging of others was left to Jesus.

Yet, Jesus told the Pharisees:

You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.

He also told the adulteress woman 'Nor do I condemn you, go forth and sin no more'.

Notice his instruction to her was to sin no more.

for the Kingdom of God is WITHIN US.

It is not outside me, my friend, nor you. It is not something we can point at nor judge nor see with our eyes.
Bro, relax no body is judging you, do you believe in ur heart that jesus is the only way yes or no thats it??
 
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Sonofjesuschrist

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God knows what is in my heart.
SO NO RIGHT.
CAUSE I could tell you that jesus is the only way to heaven. or yahushua in hebrew. or my heavenly father which he is jesus christ,
Jesus said that on the day of judgement many will come and say lord lord.
And he will say depart from me I never new you worker of lawlessness!
so you might whant to be more like jesus and read less of gundhy ur confussed.
and god said you will know them by there fruit you are all over the place with ur message,
 
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Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. 45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. 46 I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.
47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. 49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. 50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”


By our tongues we judge ourselves with what we speak.