IS MARY THE WOMAN IN REVELATION CHAPTER 12?

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Jackson123

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Do you actually think that God is going to put that in His word as a possibility? The reason that the verse is there as a clue that the 144,000 are all males. It has nothing to do with women being defiled by women. You're grasping at straws now!

However, I am done sharing the truth with you on this subject. I have told you who the woman is and who the male child is which is the truth. You are free to continue believing as you wish, but I'm not going to respond to you on this subject any more.

So you do not believe there is woman defiled woman in Israel?

Than you do not believe the truth

This is the truth.


Over 250,000 revelers flood Tel Aviv for Israel’s biggest ever Gay Pride parade
Israelis and visitors celebrate freedom and tolerance at 20th annual event in self-styled ‘most gay-friendly city’ in world

This is the link

https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-250000-revelers-flood-tel-aviv-for-gay-pride/


 

Jackson123

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What makes you think that the 144,000 "not being defiled by woman" is figurative? If that was figurative then "no lie being in their mouths" would also have to be figurative, which it is not. This is based on a normal relationship between men and woman, not same-sex.
The lamb is figurative of Jesus, take away the sin not figurative. It is posible in one verse Mix figurative and letter

John 1:29 King James Version (KJV)

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
 
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Do you actually think that God is going to put that in His word as a possibility? The reason that the verse is there as a clue that the 144,000 are all males. It has nothing to do with women being defiled by women. You're grasping at straws now!

However, I am done sharing the truth with you on this subject. I have told you who the woman is and who the male child is which is the truth. You are free to continue believing as you wish, but I'm not going to respond to you on this subject any more
Where is the gospel meaning and purpose in men not having a sexual relationship with woman? An all male priesthood?

Should we look for the spiritual meaning according to 2 Corinthians 4:18, hid in the "signified language" of God as parables?

Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and "signified it" by his angel unto his servant John:

The gospel is in respect to the new bride.(new creation) Not divorced Israel. Divorced Israel is used to represent natural unconverted mankind or the strange woman . Not all Israel are born again Christians .The new name God named His bride the church.

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Its the end of time the Sun and Moon the temporal time keepers are under the feet of His bride the church according to Revelation chapter 11.The kingdoms as the god of this world the great whore or strange woman has come to a end .

And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.Revelation 11:15

The woman in Chapter 12 is the chaste virgin bride the church .She is the mother of us all. She is signified by the number 144,00 to represent a unknown. God does not number his people .We walk by faith

Male he made mankind as one creation (male and female) in the image of God not seen . She is first shown in Genesis 3:15 with the spiritual seed Christ.

The apposing woman, the strange woman make up the gods of this world in the likeness of men. We are to have no gods typified as woman before or living God .The first commandment

Acts 14:11 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 2:27

Its defiled mankind represented as the strange woman. The believers (male and female)as the bride of Christ are to have no gods before our living God . Again the 144,000 represent the elect.

Proverbs 23:27For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit.

Proverbs 5:3For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:[/QUOTE]
 
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The lamb is figurative of Jesus, take away the sin not figurative. It is posible in one verse Mix figurative and letter

John 1:29 King James Version (KJV)

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Amen the letter of the law as one kind of law, kills ,revealing all as sinners living in a corrupted body of s death .

The spirit of the word as the law of faith the other kind of law, heals. We must compare the spiritual unseen to the same or also called faith to faith. It is the power of the gospel be which mankind can hear God not seen. Without it his faith working in us no man could seek aftr his good pleasure

So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Romans 1:15-17

Without it as it is written, with the word it representing the faith of God not seen no man will search. God not seen must first give us His understanding ...His first work as a labor of His love our first love.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Roman 3:10-11
 

Dino246

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Where is the gospel meaning and purpose in men not having a sexual relationship with woman? An all male priesthood?

Should we look for the spiritual meaning according to 2 Corinthians 4:18, hid in the "signified language" of God as parables?

Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and "signified it" by his angel unto his servant John:

The gospel is in respect to the new bride.(new creation) Not divorced Israel. Divorced Israel is used to represent natural unconverted mankind or the strange woman . Not all Israel are born again Christians .The new name God named His bride the church.

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Its the end of time the Sun and Moon the temporal time keepers are under the feet of His bride the church according to Revelation chapter 11.The kingdoms as the god of this world the great whore or strange woman has come to a end .

And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.Revelation 11:15

The woman in Chapter 12 is the chaste virgin bride the church .She is the mother of us all. She is signified by the number 144,00 to represent a unknown. God does not number his people .We walk by faith

Male he made mankind as one creation (male and female) in the image of God not seen . She is first shown in Genesis 3:15 with the spiritual seed Christ.

The apposing woman, the strange woman make up the gods of this world in the likeness of men. We are to have no gods typified as woman before or living God .The first commandment

Acts 14:11 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 2:27

Its defiled mankind represented as the strange woman. The believers (male and female)as the bride of Christ are to have no gods before our living God . Again the 144,000 represent the elect.

Proverbs 23:27For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit.

Proverbs 5:3For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
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Garee, I think your heart is in the right place, but you have a knack for taking a simple message and convoluting it beyond all reason. A basic college writing course might work wonders for you.
 
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Garee, I think your heart is in the right place, but you have a knack for taking a simple message and convoluting it beyond all reason. A basic college writing course might work wonders for you.[/QUOTE]


Thanks no arguing with that. Are you a teacher you write nicely?