Is Obedience Necessary for Salvation?

[HisKid]

Someone mentioned the teachings of Mary.

So, whenever possible, i like to post the Catholic Pope looking up at a statue of Mary, adorned with a golden crown, sitting on a Throne.

Can you imagine the leader of the 2nd largest religion in the world, kissing the feet of a 30 ft plastic Mary, in worship?
Well, you dont have to imagine it as he'll kiss a 30ft statue, or a 2 ft statue of Mary.
Keep in mind, before the CC was titled "Catholic Church", it was titled "the cult of Mary",= by a Church Father., about 5ad.

Can you imagine Billy Graham kissing the feet of a plastic statue?
Can you imagine the Apostle Paul kneeling before Mary, as If He's kneeling before God?

When Jesus was dying on the Cross, He didnt refer to her as mother....>He called her "woman".

All religions are man-made. The CC just happens to be the largest cult in existence. And, the Mary they worship has no relation to the mother of Jesus. They worship Osiris. When you get right down to bitter truth, they worship Lucifer. The entire vatican is a cauldron of wickedness. I believe the pope will be the false prophet in the end.. the right hand man to the anti-christ. No other person fits the role.
I am so thankful the Lord saved me out of that religion. It is truly evil.

 

[Magenta]

When Jesus was dying on the Cross, He didnt refer to her as mother....>He called her "woman".

He did use the word Mother to signal that she was now John's mother.

However, at no other time in Scripture did Jesus address Mary as Mother.

It was the wedding at Cana when Jesus called Mary "woman"

 

[Kidron]

All religions are man-made. The CC just happens to be the largest cult in existence. And, the Mary they worship has no relation to the mother of Jesus. They worship Osiris. When you get right down to bitter truth, they worship Lucifer. The entire vatican is a cauldron of wickedness. I believe the pope will be the false prophet in the end.. the right hand man to the anti-christ. No other person fits the role.
I am so thankful the Lord saved me out of that religion. It is truly evil.

How did you come to realize that the CC is a cult?
Most believe its the way to heaven.


also, and you probably know this..

Diana, was a Pagan Goddess, was worshipped in Ephesus.
Paul talked about it.
Huge Temple created for her.
She was known as "the queen of heaven", and "a perpetual virgin".

The cult came in, and took over "her" huge temple, renamed it the "church of Mary", and 1500 yrs later, we see that not much has changed.

 

[HisKid]

How did you come to realize that the CC is a cult?
Most believe its the way to heaven.


also, and you probably know this..

Diana, was a Pagan Goddess, was worshipped in Ephesus.
Paul talked about it.
Huge Temple created for her.
She was known as "the queen of heaven", and "a perpetual virgin".

The cult came in, and took over "her" huge temple, renamed it the "church of Mary", and 1500 yrs later, we see that not much has changed.

I have always been a seeker of truth.. probably because of my experience being raised in a Lucifer-worshiping cult. It always gave me the creeps, even as a child. I can't say I came to realize it.... the Lord revealed it to me. He saved me from it.

 

[Kidron]

He did use the word Mother to signal that she was now John's mother.

However, at no other time in Scripture did Jesus address Mary as Mother.

It was the wedding at Cana when Jesus called Mary "woman"

John 19 : He used """"mother"""" to signify that this was to be John's.

But he said...."woman".......behold thy son.

""""" he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!..... Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home."""""


Notice this verse... in Matthew 12...

"""""“WHO... is my mother , and who are my brothers?” He points to the disciples and says, “Here are my mother and brothers...... For whoever does the will of my father in heaven is my brother and sister and MOTHER.”

This was in response to Mary and family coming to talk to Jesus.
THey were outside waiting, and some one said....>"Jesus, your mother and brothers are outside"......

 

[Jackson123]

David murdered
Moses murdered
Saul/Paul murdered

if murder keeps us from the kingdom of heaven. Then they will nto make it

The bible says if we are angry we have murdered..

so who then can make it to heaven?

Bible say murder not inherit kg
And yes bible say angry is murder so what?
Bible say repent and you forgiven
You want to change the Bible?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

John 19 : He used """"mother"""" to signify that this was to be John's.

But he said...."woman".......behold thy son.

""""" he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!..... Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home."""""


Notice this verse... in Matthew 12...

"""""“WHO... is my mother , and who are my brothers?” He points to the disciples and says, “Here are my mother and brothers...... For whoever does the will of my father in heaven is my brother and sister and MOTHER.”

This was in response to Mary and family coming to talk to Jesus.
THey were outside waiting, and some one said....>"Jesus, your mother and brothers are outside"......

I think he’s getting to the point that all believers who repent and follow him are his family . We all have earthly mothers Jesus was indeed born of a woman which made him the son of man , he had no earthly father which made him the son of God

 

[Kidron]

I have always been a seeker of truth.. probably because of my experience being raised in a Lucifer-worshiping cult. It always gave me the creeps, even as a child. I can't say I came to realize it.... the Lord revealed it to me. He saved me from it.

Of the 3 situations that are the most difficult to find deliverance from...

1. Legalism


2. Hyper-Calvanism.......>"predestined elect nonsense"...

3.) Catholic Cult..

The Catholic Cult is the most difficult to escape from, as it has about 1800 yrs of "how to fool them" dialed in.
This cult is a master regarding how to make you think its all about God and Christ, and in fact, its all about water, mary, the pope, and actually teaches that if you believe you are saved by the Blood of Jesus, as God's Grace, ""without works", then you are "cursed of God".... Anathema.
That is incredible.
To teach that How God saves......if you believe it, you are cursed of God..
That is amazing deception, and a devout Catholic will argue about water and mary and WORKS, till they explode.
Like trained monkeys, climbing trees.
JW's and Mormons have nothing on Catholics when it comes to total brainwashing.

 

[Jackson123]

We are spiritually born again.

After we are born again, we are to renew our minds and begin our discipleship.
This is the process of "working out your salvation" by learning how to exist on earth, as born again.
Discipleship is a process, while Salvation is a BIRTH.

It doesn’t matter you call disciple or believer the Word say murder not inherit kg
You try to change the word of God friend
what you say is murder go to heaven without repent only lose the status as disciple
That is not the Word say
Again the word say murder not inherit kg

 

[HisKid]

Of the 3 situations that are the most difficult to find deliverance from...

1. Legalism


2. Hyper-Calvanism.......>"predestined elect nonsense"...

3.) Catholic Cult..

The Catholic Cult is the most difficult to escape from, as it has about 1800 yrs of "how to fool them" dialed in.
This cult is a master of how to make you think its all about God and Christ, and in fact, its all about water, mary, the pope, and actually teaches that if you believe you are saved by the Blood of Jesus, as God's Grace, without works", then you are "cursed of God".... Anathema.
That is incredible.
To teach that How God saves......if you believe it, you are cursed of God..
That is amazing deception, and a devout Catholic will argue about water and mary and WORKS, till they explode.
Like trained monkeys, climbing trees.
JW's and Mormons have nothing on Catholics when it comes to total brainwashing.

Yes, I know. I lived it. It is still difficult at times to believe and walk in the truth because I was basically brainwashed my whole upbringing into believing those wicked lies from the CC. I have had many debates with devout Catholics who will never be moved, including my parents. My father mocked me more than once because of my faith in Jesus. Wicked stuff.

 

[Kidron]

I think he’s getting to the point that all believers who repent and follow him are his family . We all have earthly mothers Jesus was indeed born of a woman which made him the son of man , he had no earthly father which made him the son of God

But he made the point.
And he reiterated it when Christ would not call her "mother", on the Cross, but referred to her as "woman".

Also "woman" is a term for EVE and Jesus is the 2nd Adam...

And....
John already had a mother......
So..
Was Jesus trying to show us that "mary is blessed among women", .......and not as the dark age church has taught for 1900 yrs, that "mary is blessed above women and is a mediatrix"?

Paul said that "they went out from us, but they were not OF us"......>"enemies of the Cross"

Jesus is God, and He certainly knew what was coming, including the "cult of Mary" that has done more to harm the cause of Christ, then any other religious situation.

 

[SophieT]

The Lord in fact did reveal to me that the earth is flat. He clearly didn't reveal that truth to you. Your anger is a waste of emotion.

don't be so sure about wasting anger when God Himself gets so angry the Bible calls it wrath

God did not tell you the earth is flat. the earth is not flat

 

[Kidron]

Yes, I know. I lived it. It is still difficult at times to believe and walk in the truth because I was basically brainwashed my whole upbringing into believing those wicked lies from the CC. I have had many debates with devout Catholics who will never be moved, including my parents. My father mocked me more than once because of my faith in Jesus. Wicked stuff.

Thank you for taking a stand and for being a Light, regarding this very evil situation.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

But he made the point.
And he reiterated it when Christ would not call her "mother", on the Cross, but referred to her as "woman".

Also "woman" is a term for EVE and Jesus is the 2nd Adam...

And....
John already had a mother......
So..
Was Jesus trying to show us that "mary is blessed among women", .......and not as the dark age church has taught for 1900 yrs, that "mary is blessed above women"?

Paul said that "they went out from us, but they were not OF us"......>"enemies of the Cross"

Jesus is God, and He certainly knew what was coming, including the "cult of Mary" that has done more to harm the cause of Christ, then any other religious situation.

it’s only my own opinion but Jesus wasn’t like us completely he knew heaven and was there beforehand so how he addressed Mary was common his earthly existence had faded away but remember there were about thirty some years we aren’t privy to I’m sire as a kid he addressed his parents honorably

Jesus earthly mission came to pass at the moment he was baptized and received the holy spirit so when he’s speaking in the gospel it’s not from a mere
Mans perspective I think this probably affects the matter

“For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:49-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is because he received the spirit at baptism and his time had come forth to be announced to mankind. His life we only have a small portion of because the time he was baptized until he went to heaven is the gospel . It’s when Gid walked among us as a man teaching , lovong and fellowshipping with us

Mary was his earthly mother but in truth we’re taught to start acting as if we’re not of the world.

ot sort of shines the Pugh in our relationships we call one another brother based on Christ not our bloodline

what I mean is he was speaking on a different plain in the gospel so it could be that affects how he addressed Mary but it’s just my own idea and thought

 

[Kidron]

It doesn’t matter you call disciple or believer the Word say murder not inherit kg

The born again, are already in the Kingdom of God.

 

[Kidron]

it’s only my own opinion but Jesus wasn’t like us completely he knew heaven and was there beforehand so how he addressed Mary was common his earthly existence had faded away but remember there were about thirty some years we aren’t privy to I’m sire as a kid he addressed his parents honorably
Jesus earthly mission came to pass at the moment he was baptized and received the holy spirit so when he’s speaking in the gospel it’s not from a mere
Mans perspective I think this probably affects the matter
“For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:49-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬this is because he received the spirit at baptism and his time had come forth to be announced to mankind. His life we only have a small portion of because the time he was baptized until he went to heaven is the gospel . It’s when Gid walked among us as a man teaching , lovong and fellowshipping with us
Mary was his earthly mother but in truth we’re taught to start acting as if we’re not of the world.ot sort of shines the Pugh in our relationships we call one another brother based on Christ not our bloodlinewhat I mean is he was speaking on a different plain in the gospel so it could be that affects how he addressed Mary but it’s just my own idea and thought

Thank you.


Have you seen the movie.... " The Young Messiah". ??
You would enjoy it.
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[Jackson123]

The born again, are already in the Kingdom of God.

Murder not inherit the verse doesn’t say except born again

 

[HisKid]

Murder not inherit the verse doesn’t say except born again

Jackson, how do you repent after you have committed murder?

 

[HisKid]

Thank you for taking a stand and for being a Light, regarding this very evil situation.

I hope it has done some good, but that is in the Lord's hands.

 

[Jackson123]

Jackson, how do you repent after you have committed murder?

Stop doing murder it was a person kill for living he was accept the Lord went to bible school and stop murder last year he die as preacher