The victory that you believe is had .. that one ceases to sin.. Is a delusion because no one ceases to sin and if you are honest with yourself you will know this is true within your own life..
And yet you did not respond to the passages in the post to which you responded to.
No victory in Jesus? Where is that verse at? There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not
suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able (through Christ); but will with the temptation also make a way to escape
(through Christ), that ye may be able to bear out from under. (1Co 10:13)
If it is not of FAITH it is sin. GOD is faithful HE will not suffer us to be tempted above that which we are able.
We know that He was manifested to take away our sins.
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead (separated from) sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes we were healed.
(1Pe 2:24)
We do have victory in Jesus.. But that victory comes in the atonement of Jesus that pays the penalty for our sins and grants us eternal life.. The Victory is the eternal vlictory over death,, it is not victory over sinning in this limited life on earth..
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant (sinner) abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free (being a servant of sin), ye shall be free indeed.
(Joh 8:34-36 KJV)
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid.
How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
(Rom 6:1-6 KJV)
Then after Paul in chapter seven gives "his testimony" that knowledge of the law can not and was not saving him from his carnal nature he proclaims the victory in chapter eight.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus
hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law (the knowledge of it) could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin,
condemned sin in the flesh (taking it away; nailing it to the cross): That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind (entertain; think on) the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded (inclined; purposed) is death; but to be spiritually minded (inclined; purposed) is life and peace.
(Rom 8:2-6 KJV)
Mainly due to the fact it is GOD that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure; not us but Christ, in all humility Paul in speaking of being resurrected and living without sin (being perfected) he states of himself.
Not that I already received or already have been perfected, but I press on, if I also may lay hold, inasmuch as I also was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. Brothers, I do not count myself to have laid hold, but one thing I do ,
forgetting the things behind, and stretching forward to those things before, I press on after the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. Then as many as are perfect, let us be of this mind; and if you think anything differently, God will also reveal this to you.
(Php 3:12-15 LITV-TSP)
In verse 15 Paul testifies that some were already perfect and have reached the high calling of GOD through Christ Jesus. Not that they thought that of themselves but Paul testifies they were.
1 Corinthians 15: KJV54 "So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. {55} O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? {56} The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. {57} But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
I have victory over death though the LORD Jesus Christ.. Amen
As it is written, "We know that He was manifested to take away our sins.
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead (separated from) sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes we were healed."
(1Pe 2:24)
As Jesus said, "Be healed and go and sin no more!" Awake to righteousness and sin not is the command. If it were not possible it would not been commanded!
Doubled mined man is unstable in all his ways. If it is not of faith it is of sin. Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
(1Co 15:33-34 KJV)
People who believe it is all about recieving Victory over sin in their carnal flesh need to accept the truth..
1 John 1: KJV
8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."
verse eight is being said in context to verse seven. Verse seven says, the blood of Jesus cleanseth us from all sin. All sin not some; ALL!
Sin in verse eight is a noun not a verb. No action has taken place. Sin the noun is knocking at the door and wants in. This state of being we will be in until HIS' Coming. Not that we are sinning but we must walk in the light as he is in the light and the blood of Jesus will purge (separate) us from all unrighteousness (sin) and we will not sin because we can do all things and are more than conquerors through Christ Jesus. He has given ALL things that pertain to life and godliness. We are without excuse.
Then in verse ten John deals with the verb (the action). And it is being stated in the past tense not present. As if we are continuing in sin that grace abounds.
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness (sin), we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we acknowlede our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
(1Jn 1:6-2:1 KJV)
Though in all humility we will never state that we do not sin or have sin; For it is GOD that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. Our sufficiency is not of ourselves it is of GOD! As Paul stated....
Not that I already received or already have been perfected, but I press on, if I also may lay hold, inasmuch as I also was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. Brothers, I do not count myself to have laid hold, but one thing I do ,
forgetting the things behind, and stretching forward to those things before, I press on after the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. Then as many as are perfect, let us be of this mind; and if you think anything differently, God will also reveal this to you.
(Php 3:12-15 LITV-TSP)