Is the Devil bound right now...?
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Jesus is reigning supreme now? As messed up and wicked as this world is? 
Yes...
Then sending away the crowds, Jesus came into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, Explain to us the parable of the darnel of the field. And answering, He said to them, The One sowing the good seed is the Son of Man. And the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; but the tares are the sons of the evil one. And the hostile one who sowed them is the Devil, and the harvest is the end of the age, and the angels are the reapers. Then as the tares are gathered and are consumed in the fire, so it will be in the completion of this age. The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His Kingdom all the offenses, and those who practice lawlessness. And they will throw them into the furnace of fire; there will be weeping and gnashing of the teeth. Then the righteous will shine out like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. The one having ears to hear, let him hear.(Mat 13.36 – 43)
Clearly, the world , today, is referred to as Jesus' Kingdom....as stated by Jesus, Himself.
R
Wrong and this deceiver will continue to be wrong unless he repents and God shows him the way.
When has He gathered, this deceiver would have you think that the destruction of Israel is the tribulation and that we are now living in the perfect age. The problem is that Israel was destroyed in 70 Ad and the book of revelations was not written until about 80 or 90 AD.
When has He gathered, this deceiver would have you think that the destruction of Israel is the tribulation and that we are now living in the perfect age. The problem is that Israel was destroyed in 70 Ad and the book of revelations was not written until about 80 or 90 AD.
Hello 49! This is for Bowman,
49 just made a point that by referring you to the state of the world, meaning that Satan is out and about and is responsible for the state of the world. How did you miss it?
You continue to ignore the details of the binding described in Rev.20:1-7, which will be in that literal place called the Abyss, as well as ignoring the literal time period of a thousand years. Of course those who have held to this belief had to spiritualize the thousand years in that, they could no longer claim a literal thousand years after a thousand years had passed after the destruction of the temple. Kind of reminds me of the JW's who kept guessing at dates for the return of the, of which none had panned out and so that settled on the Lord's invisible return to the earth in 1914. How convenient!
Satan and the powers of darkness were surely dealt a blow when Christ was crucified, in that Jesus took away their ammunition against us by meeting the righteous requirements of the law. For the power of sin is the law. But, Satan was not bound there in the Abyss, for scripture does not support that. He and his angels still have access to heaven where he accuses the faithful day and night in God's presence. But that will end when midway through the last seven years, Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven and restricted to the earth and then 3 1/2 years after that Jesus will return to end the age and then Satan will be bound in the literal Abyss for a literal thousand years. This is the correct chronological order of events. Once the One who is restraining the full force of sin and the man of lawlessness is revealed, then the full force of sin will be allowed and the man of lawlessness will be revealed.
Crediting the state of the world to a free-ranging Satan, is, in effect, giving him glory and power that he doesn't have.
Jesus' Parable in Mat 13 already destroys your worldview.....and even more so, as it states that Satan's demons are here - but Satan, himself, is not!
Again, and again, the story told in scripture is the same....Satan is bound.
L
Jesus' own words state in John 18:36 that His kingdom is not of this world:
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Jesus never said that His kingdom was of this world. When Jesus returns to this earth (Second Coming), He will set up His 1,000 year earthly kingdom in Jerusalem and Satan will then be bound and cast into the bottomless pit (Revelation 20:1-3). This will occur at the conclusion of Daniel's 70th week/Time of Jacob's trouble (Daniel 9:24-27; Jeremiah 30:7). We are not living in the kingdom now and Satan is NOT bound during the present Church age. That 1,000 year kingdom and binding of Satan is yet future.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Jesus never said that His kingdom was of this world. When Jesus returns to this earth (Second Coming), He will set up His 1,000 year earthly kingdom in Jerusalem and Satan will then be bound and cast into the bottomless pit (Revelation 20:1-3). This will occur at the conclusion of Daniel's 70th week/Time of Jacob's trouble (Daniel 9:24-27; Jeremiah 30:7). We are not living in the kingdom now and Satan is NOT bound during the present Church age. That 1,000 year kingdom and binding of Satan is yet future.
Mat 13:41 states otherwise.
Rev 5 states that Jesus' earthy reign began at The Cross...
Rev 5.9 - 10 And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy are You to receive the scroll, and to open its seals, because You were slain, and by Your blood purchased us to God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and made us kings and priests to our God; and we shall reign over the earth.
Rev 5 states that Jesus' earthy reign began at The Cross...
Rev 5.9 - 10 And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy are You to receive the scroll, and to open its seals, because You were slain, and by Your blood purchased us to God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and made us kings and priests to our God; and we shall reign over the earth.
L
Matthew 13:41 is part of the Parable of the Wheat and Tares. Pulling one verse of a parable out of context is confusing and you can probably prove any false doctrine by doing so. The parable of the Wheat and Tares has NOTHING to do with Jesus' kingdom during the Church age. Here is the meaning of the parable:
THE PARABLE OF THE WHEAT AND TARES (Matthew 13:24-30,36-43) depicts the rapid spread of error throughout professing Christendom.
Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Matthew 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Matthew 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Matthew 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Matthew 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Matthew 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
Matthew 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Matthew 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
Matthew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Matthew 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
As the Gospel has been proclaimed throughout the world, the devil has sown tares in the midst of it. The kingdom of heaven in its mystery form is all of professing Christendom, lost and saved, apostate and true. It includes the Roman Catholic Church, the Protestant denominations, the cults, as well as the sound apostolic congregations. When Jesus says that the tares must not be rooted out until the end of the age, He is referring to the fact that apostasy cannot be destroyed until that time (until the end of the age). The churches are not to put heretics to death or burn down the apostate cathedrals! God will take care of error as far as rooting it out of His kingdom when Christ returns in power and glory. The field is not the true churches; "the field is the world" (Matthew 13:38). This parable does not teach that Jesus' kingdom is presently on the earth...nor does it teach that Satan is bound. It teaches just the opposite. Satan is the one sowing the "tares" amongst the wheat...and he is doing that on the earth now.
The teaching that we are presently in the kingdom now, and Jesus ruling this kingdom now, and the teaching that Satan is bound, are all false teachings.
Revelation 5:9-10 takes place in heaven AFTER Church saints are caught up to heaven (Revelation 4:1). Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, is the only One worthy to break the JUDGMENT SEALS (Revelation 5:9; 6:1). These Church saints are redeemed from the earth by the blood of the Lamb (Jesus Christ). When Jesus Christ returns to the earth WITH those Church saints at the end of the tribulation (Daniel's 70th week), He will set up His throne in Jerusalem and we (Church saints) will rule and reign with Him for a LITERAL 1,000 years while Satan is bound in the bottomless pit.
Amillennialism is very confusing due to the method of interpretation of Biblical prophecy....especially the way in which Revelation is interpreted. Looks like amillennialists have to do a lot of spiritualizing and allegorizing to make the pieces fit.
THE PARABLE OF THE WHEAT AND TARES (Matthew 13:24-30,36-43) depicts the rapid spread of error throughout professing Christendom.
Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Matthew 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Matthew 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Matthew 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Matthew 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Matthew 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
Matthew 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Matthew 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
Matthew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Matthew 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
As the Gospel has been proclaimed throughout the world, the devil has sown tares in the midst of it. The kingdom of heaven in its mystery form is all of professing Christendom, lost and saved, apostate and true. It includes the Roman Catholic Church, the Protestant denominations, the cults, as well as the sound apostolic congregations. When Jesus says that the tares must not be rooted out until the end of the age, He is referring to the fact that apostasy cannot be destroyed until that time (until the end of the age). The churches are not to put heretics to death or burn down the apostate cathedrals! God will take care of error as far as rooting it out of His kingdom when Christ returns in power and glory. The field is not the true churches; "the field is the world" (Matthew 13:38). This parable does not teach that Jesus' kingdom is presently on the earth...nor does it teach that Satan is bound. It teaches just the opposite. Satan is the one sowing the "tares" amongst the wheat...and he is doing that on the earth now.
The teaching that we are presently in the kingdom now, and Jesus ruling this kingdom now, and the teaching that Satan is bound, are all false teachings.
Revelation 5:9-10 takes place in heaven AFTER Church saints are caught up to heaven (Revelation 4:1). Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, is the only One worthy to break the JUDGMENT SEALS (Revelation 5:9; 6:1). These Church saints are redeemed from the earth by the blood of the Lamb (Jesus Christ). When Jesus Christ returns to the earth WITH those Church saints at the end of the tribulation (Daniel's 70th week), He will set up His throne in Jerusalem and we (Church saints) will rule and reign with Him for a LITERAL 1,000 years while Satan is bound in the bottomless pit.
Amillennialism is very confusing due to the method of interpretation of Biblical prophecy....especially the way in which Revelation is interpreted. Looks like amillennialists have to do a lot of spiritualizing and allegorizing to make the pieces fit.
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Greetings Linda70,
Welcome to the world of Amillennialism! I personally put them on ignore and that because we have gone over all of the scriptures with them. But because they have a pre-packed interpretation for most Biblical topics, Amil's don't hear you when you quote scriptural proof. They are just looking tell you about the next pre-packed interpretation. They can't read a simple sentence at face value and understand the basic meaning. Here's an example:
"for every animal of the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills"
In the scripture above, since the number of cattle on a thousand hills is an unknowable number, they take this formula and apply it to the thousand years in Revelation 20:1-3 making the thousand years, an unknown amount of time, while ignoring the context. But you can't make them understand this because is a form of brain washing. It's just a recording with nobody home.
You are correct in all that you listed above, as it is according to scripture.
Welcome to the world of Amillennialism! I personally put them on ignore and that because we have gone over all of the scriptures with them. But because they have a pre-packed interpretation for most Biblical topics, Amil's don't hear you when you quote scriptural proof. They are just looking tell you about the next pre-packed interpretation. They can't read a simple sentence at face value and understand the basic meaning. Here's an example:
"for every animal of the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills"
In the scripture above, since the number of cattle on a thousand hills is an unknowable number, they take this formula and apply it to the thousand years in Revelation 20:1-3 making the thousand years, an unknown amount of time, while ignoring the context. But you can't make them understand this because is a form of brain washing. It's just a recording with nobody home.
You are correct in all that you listed above, as it is according to scripture.
You look; but you cannot see.
Your very own text states that Satan was here - but then left. He is no longer on the playing field. He is bound. I highlighted it in red (Mat 13.25) so that you can't ignore it anymore.
I also highlighted Mat 13.41 showing that Jesus is removing people from His Kingdom, the earth.
The playing field is the earth.
We are presently in the 1K period reigning with Jesus.
Hello Dan_473,
Yes, this is one of the ways Amillennialist come to the conclusion that the thousand years in Revelation is not a literal thousand years. Just like they will tell you that the binding of Satan mentioned in Rev.20:1-3, that is yet to happen, took place at the cross. They have end-time events culminating at the destruction of the temple and proclaim that we are currently living in the millennial period, which is not really a millennial period. Then there are the preterists .....
Yes, this is one of the ways Amillennialist come to the conclusion that the thousand years in Revelation is not a literal thousand years. Just like they will tell you that the binding of Satan mentioned in Rev.20:1-3, that is yet to happen, took place at the cross. They have end-time events culminating at the destruction of the temple and proclaim that we are currently living in the millennial period, which is not really a millennial period. Then there are the preterists .....