Is the Devil bound right now...?

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Is Satan bound right now?


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:smoke: the word yahweh
which youve mention is a man made made doctrine
for the name of our lord god shall never be mention again
until all their ( the father and the son )
people who believe in good literally and spiritually are in heaven
along with each others ( the ever loving people of the father and the son
with their loveones )
as it is written
:read:
3*And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4*And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

:ty:

godbless us all always

The passage you presented shows the Triune nature of the Biblical God...of which, is entirely scriptural, and not man-made.
 
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:smoke: the verses that you posted Rev 5:9-10 is not meant for the entire people who were love by god thats why they will be save when the time comes
meaning
your interpretaion on the scripture is truelly incorrect :haha:
Jesus' earthly reign commenced at The Cross.



:whistle: you should know how to interpret scriptures
for the passage Rev 5:9-10 the correct interpretation is
as it is written
:read:
2*And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3*And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4*These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb anywhere he goes. These were redeemed from among men, being the first-fruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5*And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
~;> THIS IS WHAT YOU MEAN ON HOW SATAN IS BOUND NOW :rofl:

The First Resurrection.....and?
 
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Bump for all those people who have a long weekend and want to contemplate Satan being presently bound...:)
 

abcdef

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Bump for all those people who have a long weekend and want to contemplate Satan being presently bound...:)
After He ascended,

Jesus finished binding Satan in heaven, after the war in heaven, Rev 12:7-9.

Then Satan was cast down to the earth on the day of Pentecost, "Salvation is come".

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At the cross, Satan was dealt the "fatal" blow Gen 3:15.

But then, Jesus descended into Hades, Eph 4:8-10.

After He ascended into heaven, is when there was war and Jesus threw Satan down.
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Jesus' earthly reign commenced at The Cross.



The First Resurrection.....and?
:whistle: it is written
:read:
Colossians 2:14
wiping out the handwriting in ordinances which was against us; and he has taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross;

:rofl: and
the first resurection happens to be our lord jesus the only begotten
as it is written
:read:
3*Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! God has given us a new birth because of his great mercy. We have been born into a new life that has a confidence which is alive because Jesus Christ has come back to life.
4*We have been born into a new life which has an inheritance that can't be destroyed or corrupted and can't fade away. That inheritance is kept in heaven for you,
13*Brothers and sisters, we don't want you to be ignorant about those who have died. We don't want you to grieve like other people who have no hope.
14*We believe that Jesus died and came back to life. We also believe that, through Jesus, God will bring back those who have died. They will come back with Jesus.
15*We are telling you what the Lord taught. We who are still alive when the Lord comes will not go into his kingdom ahead of those who have already died.
16*The Lord will come from heaven with a command, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, the dead who believed in Christ will come back to life.
17*Then, together with them, we who are still alive will be taken in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. In this way we will always be with the Lord.
18*So then, comfort each other with these words!

:happy: and this
passage atleast you would have an idea how satan is not bound
:read:
24*Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified their corrupt nature along with its passions and desires.
25*If we live by our spiritual nature, then our lives need to conform to our spiritual nature.
26*We can't allow ourselves to act arrogantly and to provoke or envy each other.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
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After He ascended,

Jesus finished binding Satan in heaven, after the war in heaven, Rev 12:7-9.

Then Satan was cast down to the earth on the day of Pentecost, "Salvation is come".

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Please elaborate upon how Satan was bound in Heaven, and why it was partial...





At the cross, Satan was dealt the "fatal" blow Gen 3:15.

But then, Jesus descended into Hades, Eph 4:8-10.

After He ascended into heaven, is when there was war and Jesus threw Satan down.
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Please elaborate upon how Jesus descended into hades...
 

abcdef

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Please elaborate upon how Satan was bound in Heaven, and why it was partial...








Please elaborate upon how Jesus descended into hades...
In Rev 12:8, it says "neither was their place found any more in heaven".

Rev 12:10 "the Accuser", cannot accuse the brethren before God anymore.

This is one way that Satan is "bound".
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Satan is cast down and is on earth right now.

He wants to destroy God's people.

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Satan's power is limited over the souls of Christians because salvation has come.

Jesus has the power over our souls now.
 
Jul 23, 2015
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The passage you presented shows the Triune nature of the Biblical God...of which, is entirely scriptural, and not man-made.
:whistle: then let the scriptures tell us all about it
THE WORD YAHWEH MUST BE READ
as you put it in that way by giving a specific name of
our lord god the the father almighty who is good and who doesnt lie
as it is written
:read:
Isaias: 34. 16. Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.

:rofl: as our lord jesus christ the only begotten son of god who is our saviour
when that time comes ... .
said this before
as it is written
:read:
39*You study the Scriptures in detail because you think you have the source of eternal life in them. These Scriptures testify on my behalf.
40*Yet, you don't want to come to me to get eternal life.
41*"I don't accept praise from humans.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
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In Rev 12:8, it says "neither was their place found any more in heaven".

Rev 12:10 "the Accuser", cannot accuse the brethren before God anymore.

This is one way that Satan is "bound".
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It speaks of expulsion from Heaven - not a spiritual binding...




Satan is cast down and is on earth right now.

He wants to destroy God's people.

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Scripture informs the reader that Satan is presently bound, and has been rendered impotent, himself...




Satan's power is limited over the souls of Christians because salvation has come.

Jesus has the power over our souls now.
Then you agree that we are now in the '1K earthly reign of Christ'...
 
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:whistle: then let the scriptures tell us all about it
THE WORD YAHWEH MUST BE READ
as you put it in that way by giving a specific name of
our lord god the the father almighty who is good and who doesnt lie
as it is written
:read:
Isaias: 34. 16. Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.

:rofl: as our lord jesus christ the only begotten son of god who is our saviour
when that time comes ... .
said this before
as it is written
:read:
39*You study the Scriptures in detail because you think you have the source of eternal life in them. These Scriptures testify on my behalf.
40*Yet, you don't want to come to me to get eternal life.
41*"I don't accept praise from humans.

:ty:

godbless us all always


Jesus has always been our God and Savior...


Titus 2.13

προσδεχομενοι την μακαριαν ελπιδα και επιφανειαν της δοξης του μεγαλου θεου και σωτηρος ημων χριστου ιησου

Looking for the blessed hope and appearance of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
 
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Jesus has always been our God and Savior...


Titus 2.13

προσδεχομενοι την μακαριαν ελπιδα και επιφανειαν της δοξης του μεγαλου θεου και σωτηρος ημων χριστου ιησου

Looking for the blessed hope and appearance of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
:rofl: how come you didnt READ THE PASSAGE AND SEARCH FOR IT
IF IT IS A MAN MADE MADE DOCTRINE
as it is written
:read:
(try to find out the book where it is written :haha: )
3*And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4*And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

:8) OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
FOR THE FATHER IS GOD
AND SO IS THE SON
BUT THE SON IS NOT GREATER THAN HIS FATHER
as it is written
:read:
Juan: 14. 27.
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28. Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29. And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 

abcdef

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It speaks of expulsion from Heaven - not a spiritual binding...

Expulsion from heaven is a spiritual binding. (Preventing)

Define "binding".


Scripture informs the reader that Satan is presently bound, and has been rendered impotent, himself...

Impotent to the Christian, as far as salvation and eternal life.


Then you agree that we are now in the '1K earthly reign of Christ'...
We are at the very end of the 1K reign.
 
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:rofl: how come you didnt READ THE PASSAGE AND SEARCH FOR IT
IF IT IS A MAN MADE MADE DOCTRINE
as it is written
:read:
(try to find out the book where it is written :haha: )
3*And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4*And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

whistle...


και εδειξεν μοι ποταμον υδατος ζωης λαμπρον ως κρυσταλλον εκπορευομενον εκ του θρονου του θεου και του αρνιου εν μεσω της πλατειας αυτης και του ποταμου εντευθεν και εκειθεν ξυλον ζωης ποιουν καρπους δωδεκα κατα μηνα εκαστον αποδιδουν τον καρπον αυτου και τα φυλλα του ξυλου εις θεραπειαν των εθνων και παν καταθεμα ουκ εσται ετι και ο θρονος του θεου και του αρνιου εν αυτη εσται και οι δουλοι αυτου λατρευσουσιν αυτω και οψονται το προσωπον αυτου και το ονομα αυτου επι των μετωπων αυτων

kai edeixen moi potamonudatoszōēs lampronōskrustallonekporeuomenontouthronoutoutheou kai touarniouen mesōtēsplateiasautēs kai toupotamouenteuthen kai ekeithen xulon zōēspoiounkarpousdōdeka kata mēnaekastonapodidounton karpon autou kai ta phulla touxulou eis therapeiantōnethnōn kai pan katathema ouk estai eti kai o thronos toutheou kai tou arniou en autēestai kai oi douloiautoulatreusousinautō kai opsontai to prosōponautou kai to onoma autou epi tōnmetōpōnautōn

And he showed mea river ofwater of life, clear/white as crystal,coming forth out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of its street ando f the river, from here and from there,was a Tree of life producing twelve fruits: according to one month each yielding its fruit. And the leaves of the tree were for healing of the nations. And every curse will no longer be. And the throne of God and the Lamb will be in it; and His slaves will worship Him.And they will see His face; and His name will be on their foreheads. (Rev 22.1 – 4)



Observe that Revelation chapter 22 declares that both the Water of Life and the Tree of Life are intertwined with one another, and emanate from the singular throne of God and the Lamb.

Although both God and the Lamb are identified, they are treated as one entity, one God, via the prolific usage of singular personal pronouns and singular nouns:


  • One Throne (thronos)
  • His (autou) slaves
  • Worship Him (autō)
  • His (autou) face (prosōpon)
  • His (autou) name (onoma)



Whistle....
 

abcdef

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Could be...

But how can we be reigning with Christ if Satan is supposedly still roaming free..?
Jesus has already given us the victory.

But, the battle over the souls of people is not over.

In Rev 20, those who live and reign are from the first resurrection. John the Baptist.

His words reign in our hearts,"Behold the Lamb of God", Jn 1:29.
 
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whistle...


και εδειξεν μοι ποταμον υδατος ζωης λαμπρον ως κρυσταλλον εκπορευομενον εκ του θρονου του θεου και του αρνιου εν μεσω της πλατειας αυτης και του ποταμου εντευθεν και εκειθεν ξυλον ζωης ποιουν καρπους δωδεκα κατα μηνα εκαστον αποδιδουν τον καρπον αυτου και τα φυλλα του ξυλου εις θεραπειαν των εθνων και παν καταθεμα ουκ εσται ετι και ο θρονος του θεου και του αρνιου εν αυτη εσται και οι δουλοι αυτου λατρευσουσιν αυτω και οψονται το προσωπον αυτου και το ονομα αυτου επι των μετωπων αυτων

kai edeixen moi potamonudatoszōēs lampronōskrustallonekporeuomenontouthronoutoutheou kai touarniouen mesōtēsplateiasautēs kai toupotamouenteuthen kai ekeithen xulon zōēspoiounkarpousdōdeka kata mēnaekastonapodidounton karpon autou kai ta phulla touxulou eis therapeiantōnethnōn kai pan katathema ouk estai eti kai o thronos toutheou kai tou arniou en autēestai kai oi douloiautoulatreusousinautō kai opsontai to prosōponautou kai to onoma autou epi tōnmetōpōnautōn

And he showed mea river ofwater of life, clear/white as crystal,coming forth out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of its street ando f the river, from here and from there,was a Tree of life producing twelve fruits: according to one month each yielding its fruit. And the leaves of the tree were for healing of the nations. And every curse will no longer be. And the throne of God and the Lamb will be in it; and His slaves will worship Him.And they will see His face; and His name will be on their foreheads. (Rev 22.1 – 4)



Observe that Revelation chapter 22 declares that both the Water of Life and the Tree of Life are intertwined with one another, and emanate from the singular throne of God and the Lamb.

Although both God and the Lamb are identified, they are treated as one entity, one God, via the prolific usage of singular personal pronouns and singular nouns:


  • One Throne (thronos)
  • His (autou) slaves
  • Worship Him (autō)
  • His (autou) face (prosōpon)
  • His (autou) name (onoma)



Whistle....
:whistle: youve found it
then it is written
THEN IT IS NOT A MAN MADE MADE DOCTRINE
THEN HOW COME YOU CANNOT GAVE THE EXACT WRITTEN NAME OF YAHWEH
IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES

:haha: there you are again you almost seems to forget this writtings
as it is written
:read:
MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I
:8) OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
FOR THE FATHER IS GOD
AND SO IS THE SON
BUT THE SON IS NOT GREATER THAN HIS FATHER
as it is written
:read:
Juan: 14. 27.
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28. Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29. And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

:rofl: perhalps we should add this passage
as it is wtitten
:read:
Mga Hebreo: 12. 1.
Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
3. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
4. Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
~;> BUT HOW CAN WE BE REIGNING WITH CHRIST IF HE IS ALSO THE FATHER
WHAT WILL YOU CALL UNTO
THE ONE WHO SITTETH AT THE RIGHT OF THE FATHER IF HE IS ALSO
THE FATHER
WANNA TRY TO GUESS AGAIN

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
Nov 19, 2012
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Jesus has already given us the victory.

But, the battle over the souls of people is not over.

In Rev 20, those who live and reign are from the first resurrection. John the Baptist.

His words reign in our hearts,"Behold the Lamb of God", Jn 1:29.

The 1K reign of Christ is part of the First Resurrection.

Different terms describing the same time period...
 
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:whistle: youve found it
then it is written
THEN IT IS NOT A MAN MADE MADE DOCTRINE
THEN HOW COME YOU CANNOT GAVE THE EXACT WRITTEN NAME OF YAHWEH
IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES
:chocolate ice cream:

That would have been written in Paleo-Hebrew.

If its that important to you, then you show us...




:haha: there you are again you almost seems to forget this writtings
as it is written
:read:
MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I
:8) OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
FOR THE FATHER IS GOD
AND SO IS THE SON
BUT THE SON IS NOT GREATER THAN HIS FATHER
as it is written
:space cadet:

Can't you Trinity-deniers come up with some new material?

Show us where this makes Jesus a lesser God.

Good luck...



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Juan: 14. 27.
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28. Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29. And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

:purple sheets:

John 14 context shows that Father, Son and Spirit are present with the believers.




:rofl: perhalps we should add this passage
as it is wtitten
:read:
Mga Hebreo: 12. 1.
Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
3. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
4. Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
~;> BUT HOW CAN WE BE REIGNING WITH CHRIST IF HE IS ALSO THE FATHER
WHAT WILL YOU CALL UNTO
THE ONE WHO SITTETH AT THE RIGHT OF THE FATHER IF HE IS ALSO
THE FATHER
WANNA TRY TO GUESS AGAIN

:ty:

godbless us all always


Who, but you, ever claimed that Christ was God The Father!!!

ROTFLOL.

You clearly have no idea of what The Trinity even is.

Keep fighting that self-made straw man of yours.....









:whistle:



 

abcdef

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The 1K reign of Christ is part of the First Resurrection.

Different terms describing the same time period...

When the dragon, Rev 20:2, is released from his binding, what does he do?

He deceives Magog into surrounding the Holy City Jerusalem and the camp of the saints.

This is happening now.
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When the dragon, Rev 20:2, is released from his binding, what does he do?

He deceives Magog into surrounding the Holy City Jerusalem and the camp of the saints.

This is happening now.
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Jesus told us in the Gospels that when Satan is released, there will be worldwide cataclysmic events like mankind has never ever experienced before.

This is not yet occurring.

Scripture also says that Satan's time is very, very short...so, if he were to be released, he only needs to possess a certain few keys individuals to start a nuclear war.....and we don't see that happening yet...