That binding of Satan was referring to a temporary overpowering at the time when demons are being cast out. The binding that is being spoken of in Rev.20:1-3 takes place after the wrath of God when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age, which is followed by the beast and false prophet being captured and thrown into the lake of fire. After that Satan will be seized by that angel and thrown into the Abyss where it will be locked and sealed over him where he will remain during the literal thousand year reign of Christ.
Is the Devil bound right now...?
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I understand that Satan still roams around like a roaring lion but we must grasp that He is now being used only to form us true believers into the image age of Christ. However this only includes true believers not the ungodly. The main thing we need to grasp from the verse I was speaking about is that if Christ hasn't already bound the strong man to some extent we would all be being devoured right now. Like I said to others this post isn't to start an argument it is a conversation out of love.
Hello Eternallife,
That would would be the Holy Spirit who is transforming believers into the image of Christ, not Satan. Satan hasn't been bound at all. Christ met the righteous requirements of the law, satisfying them fully and thereby taking away Satan's and the powers of darkness ammunition away, which was the law. The power of sin is the law. My point with Bowman and Amils's is that, Rev.20:1-3 demonstrates Satan's literal binding under earth in the Abyss for a literal thousand years. Satan has not yet been bound, but his ability to use the law against believers has been removed. As for those who are not in Christ, the law still has power over them and that because they are not in Christ.
Don't think about it as an argument, but as contending for the truth of God's word.
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I understand what your saying that Saran isn't bound for 1000 years nor has he been placed in the lake of fire. However, when Christ said how else would a man spoil a strong man's house unless he first bind the strong man and then he will spoil his house. Christ was talking about that Satan has already been bound to some extent. I tell you that it is my belief that in the war of Armageddon the enemies of Christians will already be experiencing a type of destruction we may not be able to comprehend. Romans itself talks about how God's wrath is already being poured out to the utmost on some who where afflicting Christians. But yes Satan still hasn't gone into the 1000 year punishment nor has he been placed into the lake of fire.
I would think the binding would have more to do with false apostles, bringing false prophecy. Which it was possible to deceive the elect while we had prophecy in part.
When God finished bringing any more new prophecy he sealed up His now perfect or complete will and added a warning to any who would add or subtract from the whole. In that if any man say I received new prophecy from the Lord we are to believe not. It is how we try the spirits according to 1 John to see if they are of the things of God or of men.
Any new prophecy to include that of Mohamed and his false prophecy, the Koran would show him as well as any other to be a false apostles, false Christ’s, as antichrists .
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, “if it were possible”, even the elect.But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, Mar 13:21
That tribulation will last right up till the last day , the second resurrection. Until then Satan will deceive the nations of people who know not God with the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
The binding only affects those who will not go above that which is written seeing we have the perfect..with no other prophecy to be expected.
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 1Co 13:9
When God finished bringing any more new prophecy he sealed up His now perfect or complete will and added a warning to any who would add or subtract from the whole. In that if any man say I received new prophecy from the Lord we are to believe not. It is how we try the spirits according to 1 John to see if they are of the things of God or of men.
Any new prophecy to include that of Mohamed and his false prophecy, the Koran would show him as well as any other to be a false apostles, false Christ’s, as antichrists .
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, “if it were possible”, even the elect.But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, Mar 13:21
That tribulation will last right up till the last day , the second resurrection. Until then Satan will deceive the nations of people who know not God with the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
The binding only affects those who will not go above that which is written seeing we have the perfect..with no other prophecy to be expected.
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 1Co 13:9
:hrmm: it is easy for someone to say anything
but when someone is speaking the words which definitely pointing
to certain thing like satan things
then its better to consult the bible itself
for it is the best thing for anyone to look for
so that anyone should not be deceive like what satan did before
unto those people
and even the lord jesus christ the only begotten of god
our saviour when the time comes
said this before to saulo este pablo and what we meant is
unto the apostle of the gentiles
as it is written
:read:
Mga Gawa: 26. 15. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. 16. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; 17. Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, 18. To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
~;> AND HE WAS SPEAKIN TO HIM DURING THE TIME THAT THE EARLY BELIEVERS WERE BEEN PERSECUTED
FOR IT WAS HAPPENED AFTER CHRIST JESUS SITTETH
AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER
as it is written
:read:
Mga Hebreo: 12. 2. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Mga Gawa: 26. 15. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
16. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
17. Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
18. To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
:ty:
godbless us all always
but when someone is speaking the words which definitely pointing
to certain thing like satan things
then its better to consult the bible itself
for it is the best thing for anyone to look for
so that anyone should not be deceive like what satan did before
unto those people
and even the lord jesus christ the only begotten of god
our saviour when the time comes
said this before to saulo este pablo and what we meant is
unto the apostle of the gentiles
as it is written
:read:
Mga Gawa: 26. 15. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. 16. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; 17. Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, 18. To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
~;> AND HE WAS SPEAKIN TO HIM DURING THE TIME THAT THE EARLY BELIEVERS WERE BEEN PERSECUTED
FOR IT WAS HAPPENED AFTER CHRIST JESUS SITTETH
AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER
as it is written
:read:
Mga Hebreo: 12. 2. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Mga Gawa: 26. 15. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
16. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
17. Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
18. To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
:ty:
godbless us all always
come to think of it with that written scripturesas long as humans persecutes his own people
satan is always there to manipulate them
and tryin not to be notice with his (SATANAS) works
SATAN ALSO PUT THOSE EVIL THINGS WITHIN HIM
TO PUT ALL THE BLAME ON THEM
SO THAT HE CAN DECEIVE AGAIN BY MAKIN PEOPLE
A SINNERS THAT COULD THOSE LEAD THOSE
PEOPLE TO BE TEMPT TO KILL AND BETRAY EACH OTHER
as it is written
:read:
Mga Gawa: 7. 48. Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
49. Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
50. Hath not my hand made all these things?
51. Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
:ty:
godbless us all always
Yes crushed on the last day, the last trump, the end of the world, the second resurrection all rolled into one final event.
The word thousand used in various parables represents a unknown of what ever is in view . It began when Christ said: it is finished. It was the beginning of the last days we are in now.
:hrmm: thats the main reason why satan is a deceitful creature
to deceive people in bring those people unto the mind set
where they will think that
being human could defeat satan with their own devices
as it is written
:read:
Pahayag: 2. 12. And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; 13. I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.
~;> IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO KNOWS
HOW CAN WE GO TO THE PRESENT PERGAMOS
DURING THIS PRESENT TIME
THAT IS
OR SHALL WE SAY
when the liar the devil himself use those people
to tell unto all that he was bound
we will never believe it
LET THE SCRIPTURES SPEAK FOR ITSELF
FOR THE BIBLE IS VERY SPECIFIC LITERALLY AND SPIRITUALLY
to deceive people in bring those people unto the mind set
where they will think that
being human could defeat satan with their own devices
as it is written
:read:
Pahayag: 2. 12. And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; 13. I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.
~;> IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO KNOWS
HOW CAN WE GO TO THE PRESENT PERGAMOS
DURING THIS PRESENT TIME
THAT IS
OR SHALL WE SAY
when the liar the devil himself use those people
to tell unto all that he was bound
we will never believe it
LET THE SCRIPTURES SPEAK FOR ITSELF
FOR THE BIBLE IS VERY SPECIFIC LITERALLY AND SPIRITUALLY
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I do not give Christians a bad name. Many think the second coming of Christ is metophorical or something. The first coming of Christ was literal He really walked the earth why would the second coming be any different? Also if it is all past tense and I give Christians a bad name why are me and you still able to communicate why am I not weeping and gnashing my teeth in torment in the lake of fire right now. Didn't Christ tell the story that Lazarus couldn't go and tell the man's rich brothers because there was a great dividing between the two places so that even if Lazarus wanted tone wasn't able to? The truth is the second coming of Christ hasn't come yet and that I don't give Christians a bad name.