Is the Devil bound right now...?

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Is Satan bound right now?


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phil112

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That passage lacks the Greek article - thus, it is unlikely to apply to Satan, himself...

There are two forces - good and evil - that want our souls.
God is good and satan is evil.
The passage referred to one of them.
You said it doesn't mean satan.
You DO understand what you're saying? You DO know God isn't happy with your assumption, I presume?
 

Cassian

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Explain to us the 'importance' of the word 'through'....to the exclusion of all the other words...
Your explanation so far uses the meaning of the word "by" not "through".

In other words death is NOT what actually binds Satan, but that Christ must die, go through death in order to bind Him, This death cannot be defeated simply by dying but that death is defeated by the resurrection which gave life. Life defeats death, the power of Satan.

If you had actually bothered to listen you would have learned this way back in this post.
This is another reason why you could not muster any explanation of how simply dying bound Satan and what that would mean for man. This goes right back to Gen 3:15 which I stated earlier as well. God said that the "serpent would bruise the heal of the one to come and that the one that comes would bruise the Serpent's head.
The bruising of the heal is Satan thinking he won the war by killing Christ. However, it was Christ's resurrection that crushed the devil.
 
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There are two forces - good and evil - that want our souls.
God is good and satan is evil.
The passage referred to one of them.
You said it doesn't mean satan.
You DO understand what you're saying? You DO know God isn't happy with your assumption, I presume?

I don't 'assume' things...I conclude things...through exegesis.
 
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You are a broken record...

Your explanation so far uses the meaning of the word "by" not "through".
How so?


In other words death is NOT what actually binds Satan, but that Christ must die, go through death in order to bind Him, This death cannot be defeated simply by dying but that death is defeated by the resurrection which gave life. Life defeats death, the power of Satan.
You keep stating this, but you NEVER show ANY scripture to support it.





If you had actually bothered to listen you would have learned this way back in this post.
This is another reason why you could not muster any explanation of how simply dying bound Satan and what that would mean for man. This goes right back to Gen 3:15 which I stated earlier as well. God said that the "serpent would bruise the heal of the one to come and that the one that comes would bruise the Serpent's head.
The bruising of the heal is Satan thinking he won the war by killing Christ. However, it was Christ's resurrection that crushed the devil.

Show us with scripture.
 

Cassian

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Re: You are a broken record...

How so?




You keep stating this, but you NEVER show ANY scripture to support it.








Show us with scripture.
I gave you the scripture and explanation with it a very long time ago. You can go back to reread it.

You have two major problems. You have not refuted the scriptural meaning of Satan being bound.
You have not even begun to give your explanation of how death itself benefits man in any way. You have not explained just how Satan is bound simply by Christ dying.

You are still bungling along with your OP. It is quite obvious you have no substance to your fabulous Greek translation that has existed for hundreds of years already. In fact the meaning was derived from the Greek long before it was ever translated into English.

One other thing you not only cannot explain your view, but whatever it might be it has no historical credence. It is strickly a new man made innovative attempt by you that is scripturally meaningless.
 
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pottersclay

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So I take it that scriptures lie and Jesus was not tempted like man but new on sin hmmmm.
 
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Re: You are a broken record...

I gave you the scripture and explanation with it a very long time ago. You can go back to reread it.
Providing a name and number and then telling others to go and read it for themselves - and arrive at your worldview - is ludicrous.

If you were confident, you would post scripture, right now, and talk to it.

Instead, you slavishly talk around scripture.

Not impressed.
 
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pottersclay

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Satan is not bound by any means, maybe that is what he wants you to believe. Paul talks a great deal of the wilds of the devil.
It is foolishness to even consider that the adversary is bound in that he prowls like a roaring lion waiting to devour. I think maybe he has a tooth or two in you my friend.
 
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Satan is not bound by any means, maybe that is what he wants you to believe. Paul talks a great deal of the wilds of the devil.
It is foolishness to even consider that the adversary is bound in that he prowls like a roaring lion waiting to devour. I think maybe he has a tooth or two in you my friend.
Relying on one incorrectly interpreted verse, 1 Peter 5.8, to base an entire theology around is rather silly.

I would expect this from Catholics or Muslims...

 

Cassian

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Satan is not bound by any means, maybe that is what he wants you to believe. Paul talks a great deal of the wilds of the devil.
It is foolishness to even consider that the adversary is bound in that he prowls like a roaring lion waiting to devour. I think maybe he has a tooth or two in you my friend.
It seems that over 35 people have no idea of why Christ came. The phrase "being bound" has absolutely nothing to do with Satan not existing, or not have ability to deceive, or cause one to sin.

You are missing the most fundamental understanding of Christianity that is taught all through scripture. As I have already cited it begin with the fall of man. Man was condemned to death, was taken captive by Satan due to Adam's sin. Man became mortal. He was condemned to permanent death as stated in Gen 3:19. However, God promised Adam that there would be a solution to the fall in Gen 3:15.

As stated earlier in this thread also, Jesus proclaims that His Kingdom is at hand. [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]There are numerable texts that describe Christ as a robber, or thief Matt 26:25, transgressor Is 53:12 and in Rev 3:3 as a thief again. Then Luke 12:39 Jesus calls Satan a good man. A good man if he had known would have watched and not have his house broken into. Matt 12:29. Jesus states that he bound the "strong man". By so doing He, Jesus would be able to take the spoils, goods from his possession.
When Christ died He decended into Hades, bound Satan and freed those Satan had held captive. He was holding them captive by death. In Heb 2:14-17 it states very clearly that Christ came as the Incarnated Christ to defeat Satan and his power of death. That ONLY way that was possible was for Christ, bearing our mortal human nature, to die and then be raised to life, thus giving life to our mortal bodies. This is also stated in Rom 5:18, I Cor 15:12-22, I Cor 15:52-54 states that all men will be raised immortal, and incorruptible all because Christ arose from the dead defeating death. Satan lost the war at Christ's resurrection. The consummation is in the future. In the meantime Satan is powerless to prevent the Holy Spirit from calling all men to repentance and to be united with Christ. He knows he has lost the war but in the meantime is diligently seeking who he can take away from Christ by lies and deception,
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When Christ died He decended into Hades, bound Satan and freed those Satan had held captive.
Nope.

This is a catholic fabrication ranking up there with purgatory and confession of sins to a priest...

 
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The Devil is bound but his minions are not.
 
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KennethC

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Nope.

This is a catholic fabrication ranking up there with purgatory and confession of sins to a priest...


Exactly, Job tells us where satan is at and he is walking to and fro on the face of the earth.

The only time he gets bound in the bible is during the 1,000 year millennial reign of Christ !!!
 
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The Devil is not bound and his minions are not. I'll make up my mind in a minute or two.
 
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Cassian

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Nope.

This is a catholic fabrication ranking up there with purgatory and confession of sins to a priest...

Again showing your ignorance. The meaning I gave to you has existed from the beginning. That is 1000 years before the RC ever existed. You should do a study of history and Church theology. You might learn something.

All you have done is disagree but cannot even explain your own view. Why is that? You can't find any historical record to support your idea? You never took the time to actually develop a theory that goes with your translation?

Lay it out for all of us. The suspense is becoming unbearable.
 

Cassian

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Exactly, Job tells us where satan is at and he is walking to and fro on the face of the earth.

The only time he gets bound in the bible is during the 1,000 year millennial reign of Christ !!!
Another man made theory. Just amazing.

That millennial reign is now. The Kingdom is here, it was instituted on Pentecost when His Church was established.

There is not two more comings of Christ.
 
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pottersclay

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Cassian get off you tube and get back to church. I don't even think that deserves a reply.
 
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Another man made theory. Just amazing.

That millennial reign is now. The Kingdom is here, it was instituted on Pentecost when His Church was established.

There is not two more comings of Christ.
Yes, we know that Christ cannot be crucified again. But as for the second coming of Christ, that is what the Revelation is all about.
 
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