Is the God of Islam...God?

[kaylagrl]

I'm sure you can find more than one book that has truth in it. I didn't say it wasn't a difference, it's catered to a totally different culture.

What I'm saying is that I can love them and do into them like I love and treat myself. No book needed for that. I don't need instructions either.

Of course we can and should love them.But we love them enough that we dont let them continue in error thinking their faith and false god will get them to heaven.It is important that you understand this.The Quran is wrong,they will never come to know Christ believing in their false book and god. If you love someone you lead them out of the darkness into the light. Gods Word.

 

[Flamingspirit]

In other words you know because some scholar said so? Think about this you all.... Why does the word need to be rightly divided?????

di·vide
dəˈvīd/
verb
1.
separate or be separated into parts.
"consumer magazines can be divided into a number of different categories"
synonyms: split (up), cut up, carve

You cannot divide ONE truth any more than any number can go into "1" evenly other than itself! In other words one must SEPARATE what is the TRUE word of God from the lying words of men!

 

[kaylagrl]

In other words you know because some scholar said so? Think about this you all.... Why does the word need to be rightly divided?????

di·vide
dəˈvīd/
verb
1.
separate or be separated into parts.
"consumer magazines can be divided into a number of different categories"
synonyms: split (up), cut up, carve

You cannot divide ONE truth any more than any number can go into "1" evenly other than itself! In other words one must SEPARATE what is the TRUE word of God from the lying words of men!

No Flaming Spirit you are wrong.The Bible says ALL Scripture is God breathed. Rightly dividing means to teach and understand correctly. You are speaking an untruth and dangerous doctrine.ALL of the Bible is true and is God's Word,infallible.Please read what I posted on the inspiration of the Bible.You have very wrong teachings there. You need to find a good gospel based church and sit and learn the truth of Gods Word.

 

[Flamingspirit]

Of course we can and should love them.But we love them enough that we dont let them continue in error thinking their faith and false god will get them to heaven.It is important that you understand this.The Quran is wrong,they will never come to know Christ believing in their false book and god. If you love someone you lead them out of the darkness into the light. Gods Word.

Are you in error? Do you have sin? I'm not concerned with how a man chooses to honor God, only that he shows that love for God in how he treats me and my family! And the whole world is in darkness. Have you looked at it?

Again if you truly want Islam to die as a religion, get rid if the root. MONEY! Just be warned that "Christianity" will die as religion as well as all false images will.

Our own bible states that GOD DOES NOT DWELL IN BUILDINGS MADE WITH HUMAN HANDS, and yet most here will dismiss Islam for going to a dead synagogue while we go to a dead church building!

HINT: If your idea of worship includes a planned written program of events, that's not God at all! And that goes for all "organized" religions...

 

[Straightshot]

"In other words you know because some scholar said so?"


That's what you think ..... not what you know .... get it?

Answer my question about Mohammed?

 

[Flamingspirit]

No Flaming Spirit you are wrong.The Bible says ALL Scripture is God breathed. Rightly dividing means to teach and understand correctly. You are speaking an untruth and dangerous doctrine.ALL of the Bible is true and is God's Word,infallible.Please read what I posted on the inspiration of the Bible.You have very wrong teachings there. You need to find a good gospel based church and sit and learn the truth of Gods Word.

It is! The problem here is what does it mean!? Remember, we are in the image of God!

 

[Flamingspirit]

"In other words you know because some scholar said so?"


That's what you think ..... not what you know .... get it?

Answer my question about Mohammed?

I did lol. I don't know what else to say, I'm not Muslim. I only love them.

 

[kaylagrl]

Are you in error? Do you have sin? I'm not concerned with how a man chooses to honor God, only that he shows that love for God in how he treats me and my family! And the whole world is in darkness. Have you looked at it?

Again if you truly want Islam to die as a religion, get rid if the root. MONEY! Just be warned that "Christianity" will die as religion as well as all false images will.

Our own bible states that GOD DOES NOT DWELL IN BUILDINGS MADE WITH HUMAN HANDS, and yet most here will dismiss Islam for going to a dead synagogue while we go to a dead church building!

HINT: If your idea of worship includes a planned written program of events, that's not God at all! And that goes for all "organized" religions...

A church is simply a place to gather.I'm from Canada,trust me,you cant meet in a field in January! I go to a small country church where the preacher expounds on the Word of God. Of course God doesn't dwell in a building,He dwells in us! I dont dismiss Islam for the building they meet in.I dont care if they meet at my local K -Mart ! I dismiss Islam because it is a false teaching about a false god from a false book. Period.

 

[Straightshot]

You seem to know something about the meddler Constantine .... but nothing about Mohammed?

Tell me about the false prophet Mohammed .... I think you know something

Tell me what it is?

 

[kaylagrl]

It is! The problem here is what does it mean!? Remember, we are in the image of God!

You'll have to explain a bit further for me to understand your point...

 

[Flamingspirit]

Let me give you an example Kaylagirl. Hopefully you don't run away and be honest, even if you don't understand.

Deuteronomy 22

28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;


29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

This was law in the day that it was written. Regardless of raping and then marrying her if it was discovered, how does this affect or even apply to God who is Spirit ? It doesn't! It's only a commandment for men! There are no girls in heaven to rape!

Though it IS God inspired from men moved with the Holy Spirit, do we obey this today? No!! Again by rightly dividing, this does not apply to us as this type of behavior is not of Christ!

BUT in the day that it was written, it was very needed and beneficial to what was THEN, a small number of people on the earth!

 

[Flamingspirit]

You seem to know something about the meddler Constantine .... but nothing about Mohammed?

Tell me about the false prophet Mohammed .... I think you know something

Tell me what it is?

For the truth of God, let EVERY man be a liar!

 

[kaylagrl]

Let me give you an example Kaylagirl. Hopefully you don't run away and be honest, even if you don't understand.

Deuteronomy 22

28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;


29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

This was law in the day that it was written. Regardless of raping and then marrying her if it was discovered, how does this affect or even apply to God who is Spirit ? It doesn't! It's only a commandment for men! There are no girls in heaven to rape!

Though it IS God inspired from men moved with the Holy Spirit, do we obey this today? No!! Again by rightly dividing, this does not apply to us as this type of behavior is not of Christ!

BUT in the day that it was written, it was very needed and beneficial to what was THEN, a small number of people on the earth!

Yes this Scripture is pertaining to that day in age.A woman who was not a virgin could not be married,no man would accept her because she was stained. But the Bible does not say a girl must marry a rapist ...Exodus 22:16-17“If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride price for her and make her his wife. If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride price for virgins." If her father refuses,if she was raped would a father force her to marry? NO the bride price was to be paid either way. Look at how other rapes are treated in the Bible. God takes it very seriously and this verse is often misunderstood and taken out of context.Still this has nothing to do with the inspiration of Gods Word or
allowing Muslims to stay in their false religion and not telling them the truth.Lets not follow rabbit trails.

 

[Flamingspirit]

Let me give you a huge example of how to "rightly divide" the word.

John 10

8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

Now I ask...... Was Moses, WHO CAME BEFORE CHRIST, a thief and a robber?

 

[Flamingspirit]

Yes this Scripture is pertaining to that day in age.A woman who was not a virgin could not be married,no man would accept her because she was stained. But the Bible does not say a girl must marry a rapist ...Exodus 22:16-17“If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride price for her and make her his wife. If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride price for virgins." If her father refuses,if she was raped would a father force her to marry? NO the bride price was to be paid either way. Look at how other rapes are treated in the Bible. God takes it very seriously and this verse is often misunderstood and taken out of context.Still this has nothing to do with the inspiration of Gods Word or
allowing Muslims to stay in their false religion and not telling them the truth.Lets not follow rabbit trails.

No religion on the planet is right! If the bottom line is keeping the lights on, gas burning and bills paid, THEN IT IS A BUSINESS like EVERYTHING else!

James 1

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world

 

[kaylagrl]

Let me give you a huge example of how to "rightly divide" the word.

John 10

8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

Now I ask...... Was Moses, WHO CAME BEFORE CHRIST, a thief and a robber?

​This is not referring to Moses.Jesus is saying he is the Shepard and the only way to God. You cannot get in {to heaven} any other way.The pen,the gate,the Shepard is Jesus.
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. The thief is satan.This has nothing to do with Moses.

 

[Flamingspirit]

​This is not referring to Moses.Jesus is saying he is the Shepard and the only way to God. You cannot get in {to heaven} any other way.The pen,the gate,the Shepard is Jesus.
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. The thief is satan.This has nothing to do with Moses.

Exodus 4

24 And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him.


25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.


26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

Under the law of Moses, every man died! God is not one of the dead, but the living! Moses was a pretty big thief! But part of God's plan to declare the world guilty under sin.

 

[kaylagrl]

No religion on the planet is right! If the bottom line is keeping the lights on, gas burning and bills paid, THEN IT IS A BUSINESS like EVERYTHING else!

James 1

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world

The Bible says to forsake not the assembling together. If we do that in a church building it is wrong? No I dont think so. The more we fellowship with other Christians and are taught the Word by the preacher the less likely we are to fall into error. I knew a pastor who had a huge church in Maine in the country.He didnt steal people away from other churches,he went to the hospitals and prayed and talked with the sick and their relatives and many became saved and attended his church.He didnt see it as a business I tell you that. You can reach the poor,the sick and the needy through church.But not only through church.William Booth proved that.But he was the first to take children off the street and into Sunday school where they learned about God. Was that wrong? Of course not,neither is attending church.

 

[kaylagrl]

Exodus 4

24 And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him.


25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.


26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

Under the law of Moses, every man died! God is not one of the dead, but the living! Moses was a pretty big thief! But part of God's plan to declare the world guilty under sin.

Moses wasnt a thief, he was before Christs time thats all.The law was given to Moses FROM God so how could he be a thief? Then Jesus came and grace and that changed everything. Jesus came to fulfill and that doesnt make Moses a thief.

 

[Flamingspirit]

The Bible says to forsake not the assembling together. If we do that in a church building it is wrong? No I dont think so. The more we fellowship with other Christians and are taught the Word by the preacher the less likely we are to fall into error. I knew a pastor who had a huge church in Maine in the country.He didnt steal people away from other churches,he went to the hospitals and prayed and talked with the sick and their relatives and many became saved and attended his church.He didnt see it as a business I tell you that. You can reach the poor,the sick and the needy through church.But not only through church.William Booth proved that.But he was the first to take children off the street and into Sunday school where they learned about God. Was that wrong? Of course not,neither is attending church.

you're "assembled together" WHEREVER YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE! A building is not needed. Again, many good God fearing people are deceived! Christian and Muslim alike. Again I know most do not understand me. Just keep me in mind when this economy falls! Then you all will begin to see!