Is the God of Islam...God?

[Flamingspirit]

Moses wasnt a thief, he was before Christs time thats all.The law was given to Moses FROM God so how could he be a thief? Then Jesus came and grace and that changed everything. Jesus came to fulfill and that doesnt make Moses a thief.

Even Paul was a thief! He understood very well what I'm talking about.

2 Corinthians 11

6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.


7 Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?


8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.

 

[kaylagrl]

you're "assembled together" WHEREVER YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE! A building is not needed. Again, many good God fearing people are deceived! Christian and Muslim alike. Again I know most do not understand me. Just keep me in mind when this economy falls! Then you all will begin to see!

A building is not needed to serve God but attending church is a good thing to do.It helps you learn and grow as a Christian surrounded by like minded people.I do believe the economy will fall eventually and a one world system will replace it along with a one world religion.A Christian may misunderstand,they may be deceived by poor or false teaching but they are not deceived by the Bible The Muslims are decieved by their book,their god and their faith. There is a difference.

 

[kaylagrl]

Even Paul was a thief! He understood very well what I'm talking about.

2 Corinthians 11

6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.


7 Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?


8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.

No,Paul is saying basically "I cut you slack,I didnt charge you but I charged other churches.So because I didnt charge you it is like robbing the other churches." He is not saying he is a thief BECAUSE he charged the other churches. He's saying hes a thief BECAUSE he DIDNT CHARGE the church he was talking to.

 

[kaylagrl]

We are getting far afield of what the OP intended I think.Is the god of Islam God?The answer is a resounding no !!

 

[sealabeag]

We are getting far afield of what the OP intended I think.Is the god of Islam God?The answer is a resounding no !!

Well for me I don't believe it's a resounding no, but we will civilly agree to disagree. Definitely getting off point though, yep. I always end up regretting starting threads... Definitely a lot of spirits of anger etc. in the Bible Discussion Forum I think.

 

[kaylagrl]

Well for me I don't believe it's a resounding no, but we will civilly agree to disagree. Definitely getting off point though, yep. I always end up regretting starting threads... Definitely a lot of spirits of anger etc. in the Bible Discussion Forum I think.

I can civilly disagree,I just got married so I need to learn that art.

 

[elf3]

I can civilly disagree,I just got married so I need to learn that art.

Congradulation!!! May God bless you!!!

 

[kaylagrl]

Congradulation!!! May God bless you!!!

Thank you!

 

[Paroikou]

In the purest linguistic sense, Allah is not the "name" of God in arabic.

Both Hebrews and Arabs are Semites, sharing a common language base.

Hebrew "names" or references to God are often preceded with "EL" followed by a descriptive such as El elyon (God most high).

Semitic languages have similar sounds and structures.

Allah is a combination of Al and ilah, meaning "The God", inferring the only true God. Allah is accepted as the formal name of their expression of a supreme being, much the same way the Christian culture uses "God" as the formal expression of their supreme being. Since They share the Abrahamic line it is natural assume they speak of their idea of the God of Abraham.

The Aramaic (language of Jeshua) word for God is Elaha or Alaha (Christ calls out to the Father from the cross).

God introduces himself formally to Moses as "Ehyeh asher Ehyeh" - meaning I will be what I will be.

It is the shortcoming of language that it is not capable, in a few syllables, of capturing the essence of The Most high God.

With respect to "religion", it is clear that many sects come short - no matter the religion.

Christ followers come short when representing the Most High God in the best light, as others who claim to worship the Most High God.

But pure religion and undefiled before God is this - Visit the widows and orphans in their time of need and keep ourselves unspotted from the world.

 

[elf3]

In the purest linguistic sense, Allah is not the "name" of God in arabic.

Both Hebrews and Arabs are Semites, sharing a common language base.

Hebrew "names" or references to God are often preceded with "EL" followed by a descriptive such as El elyon (God most high).

Semitic languages have similar sounds and structures.

Allah is a combination of Al and ilah, meaning "The God", inferring the only true God. Allah is accepted as the formal name of their expression of a supreme being, much the same way the Christian culture uses "God" as the formal expression of their supreme being. Since They share the Abrahamic line it is natural assume they speak of their idea of the God of Abraham.

The Aramaic (language of Jeshua) word for God is Elaha or Alaha (Christ calls out to the Father from the cross).

God introduces himself formally to Moses as "Ehyeh asher Ehyeh" - meaning I will be what I will be.

It is the shortcoming of language that it is not capable, in a few syllables, of capturing the essence of The Most high God.

With respect to "religion", it is clear that many sects come short - no matter the religion.

Christ followers come short when representing the Most High God in the best light, as others who claim to worship the Most High God.

But pure religion and undefiled before God is this - Visit the widows and orphans in their time of need and keep ourselves unspotted from the world.

I agree we fall short, "in the basic sense", of true worship of God. For how do you truly worship God who is so far beyond our comprehension. But in the same "basic" sense we worship God according to Biblical truth as best we are told by His Word.

But do you think other "religions", besides Christianity, worship the one true God? As per the OP...is the God of Islam.....God?

 

[dave_in_KWC]

This question is quite the quagmire... or is it?

Clearly, Ishmael was the illegitimate son of Abraham. And Abraham was God's man who had his faith "reckoned" to him as righteousness (or had his faith seen by God as what was needed for him to be considered forgiven of his sins). Ishmael was saved in the desert with his mother, Hagar, by an angel of The One True God. Hagar had prayed for help and this prayer was answered by Jehovah, with Him dispatching His angel. All this to say, that although Hagar and Ishmael may have known and experienced the God of Abraham, does not mean those alleged descendants of Ishmael who created the religion of islam were inspired by the One True God. In fact, one can clearly argue against the premise that allah is the God of Abraham based on the writings of the qur'an being compared with the Holy Scriptures.

The argument that Ishmael, the son of Abraham, must by birth and tradition have given rise to descendants who created a religion who also worshipped the one true God is logic that is fatally flawed. Although I have known Christian missionaries who assert to islamists that allah is the One True God of Abraham, we clearly see in the gur'an, allah has no son. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob clearly has a Son, according to the Bible (see John 8:58). Thus, allah is NOT the God of Abraham...

 

[Straightshot]

"Thus, allah is NOT the God of"

Exactly

And "Allah is not a "god" at all, and does not even exist, but a cover for Satan

Muslims worship the devil and do not know this

 

[CRC]

Muslims believe in Allah, or God, and they believe that Muḥammad is God’s prophet. Their holy book is the Koran, and their religion is called Islam, which means “submission.” The Koran states that lying and the worship of idols are wrong, that God is one, and that he is no part of a Trinity. Also, it teaches the immortality of the soul, hellfire, and a heavenly paradise. Muslims accept the Bible as God’s Word but believe that it has been changed, while the Koran, still in its original language, has been kept pure.

 

[crossnote]

To every word is ascribed a meaning.To place the meaning behind allah alongside the christian meaning of God, there may be some overlap but there are sufficient differences to render them impossible to be the same 'god' or the same 'allah'.

 

[AuphirahQueen]

Most honest response I have seen in long time with Sword of Truth. You were informative, knowledgeable and respectful to all religion.

Responding to Pariokiuo. statement!

 

[Bowman]

The Koran states that lying and the worship of idols are wrong,

Where?

that God is one, and that he is no part of a Trinity.

Actually, the Koran confirms the Biblical Trinity.

 

[Barb]

I can't help but wonder why this is confusing. In my mind there is only One God. It doesn't matter what he is called, it matters that he loves his children and we love him. The rest is the religion that man made to congregate together and share and rejoice. Allah, Lord, Heavenly Father, God, Budda, Yaweh, Jehova, Elohim, El Shaddai, El Olam just to mention a few...there are different names and different beliefs throughout the world. Stop worrying about the small stuff. This world is going down fast and we need to be prepared. Some of us will be soldiers in the coming battles and many of our loved ones will go home at the rapture.

 

[elf3]

Small stuff? The deletion of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is not "small stuff". The atoning work of the blood of Christ is not "small stuff". Jesus death, resurection and ascension are not "small stuff". Jesus on the cross for us WAS NOT "small stuff".

 

[Jackson123]

Small stuff? The deletion of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is not "small stuff". The atoning work of the blood of Christ is not "small stuff". Jesus death, resurection and ascension are not "small stuff". Jesus on the cross for us WAS NOT "small stuff".

Yup this is serious, I never heard catholic promote Islam worship God of Abraham till 1964, I believe catholic prepare for one world religion.

 

[Flamingspirit]

Yup this is serious, I never heard catholic promote Islam worship God of Abraham till 1964, I believe catholic prepare for one world religion.

They already have control of the three main religions of the world. Remember under Christ, all the world will be united so they had this truth behind the false flag of a "one world Religion" to get us to be against unity.