Scripture tells us in the same story that the earth was covered with a dome—telling us very plainly that, according to the story, the earth was flat! “Going with” the part of the story that one likes, and totally ignoring the parts of the story that one does not like is intellectual dishonesty that makes a mockery of God and His word.
Is the great biblical flood real or not?
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I've heard "intellectual dishonesty" before so that is a misuse of one's opinion about another person's intellect.
I am going with the scripture as explained in the story of Noah and I'll take that scripture over any "intellectual" explanation anytime. We do not come to God through "intellect" but through our soul/heart. If God's Word said there was a flood which wiped out all on the face of this earth, I take Him at His word. The means, the how-He-did-it makes no difference to me.
No, I like the whole story; but I know that the story is not at all an account of an actual event in the history of the earth.
The men whom God chose to pen the Scriptures were real people in every respect—real people with their own vocabulary, real people with their own cultural background—and the realness of the people whom God chose to pen the Scriptures became a part of the Scriptures. In Genesis 1-11, we find the cultural belief of the cosmos held by the ancient Hebrew people to be the framework in which the story of the flood is told. Indeed, the reality of the flood is absolutely dependent upon the earth being flat and covered by an extremely strong “dome” (Hebrew = רָקִיעַ [râqı̂ya‛]) that, as the story goes, God made “and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome.” The reality of the flood is absolutely dependent upon the earth being flat and covered by an extremely strong “dome” because, as the story goes, the “dome” held back a massive amount of water until the time of the flood. Since the reality of the flood is dependent upon the earth being flat and covered by a “dome,” the reality of the earth being round without a dome over it completely negates the possibility of the flood having occurred.
The men whom God chose to pen the Scriptures were real people in every respect—real people with their own vocabulary, real people with their own cultural background—and the realness of the people whom God chose to pen the Scriptures became a part of the Scriptures. In Genesis 1-11, we find the cultural belief of the cosmos held by the ancient Hebrew people to be the framework in which the story of the flood is told. Indeed, the reality of the flood is absolutely dependent upon the earth being flat and covered by an extremely strong “dome” (Hebrew = רָקִיעַ [râqı̂ya‛]) that, as the story goes, God made “and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome.” The reality of the flood is absolutely dependent upon the earth being flat and covered by an extremely strong “dome” because, as the story goes, the “dome” held back a massive amount of water until the time of the flood. Since the reality of the flood is dependent upon the earth being flat and covered by a “dome,” the reality of the earth being round without a dome over it completely negates the possibility of the flood having occurred.
From Wikipedia,
Intellectual dishonesty is the precise opposite of these things!
Our intellect is the part of the mind with which we understand that which we perceive, the part of our mind with which we believe, know, memorize, reason, discriminate, and make decisions.
Genesis 1-11 is a collection of stories, and the Bible does not tell how we are to interpret them. An old Roman Catholic tradition (NOT God or His word) says that we are to interpret them as an accurate account of historic events. However, God has blessed us with the ability to know hundreds of millions of incontrovertible facts that prove that Genesis 1-11 is NOT an accurate account of historic events. Moreover, God has blessed us with the ability to correctly reason, properly discriminate, and make correct decisions.
Some people, however, have chosen to ignore these blessing from God, and to tenaciously cling to an old Roman Catholic tradition that even the Roman Catholic Church abandoned decades ago in favor of a careful and prayerful study of the Scriptures in the languages in which they were given to us by God—a pursuit that Bible-loving Protestant Christians have pursued for centuries.
Intellectual honesty is an applied method of problem solving, characterized by an unbiased, honest attitude, which can be demonstrated in a number of different ways:
· One's personal faith does not interfere with the pursuit of truth;
· Relevant facts and information are not purposefully omitted even when such things may contradict one's hypothesis;
· Facts are presented in an unbiased manner, and not twisted to give misleading impressions or to support one view over another;
· References, or earlier work, are acknowledged where possible, and plagiarism is avoided.
· One's personal faith does not interfere with the pursuit of truth;
· Relevant facts and information are not purposefully omitted even when such things may contradict one's hypothesis;
· Facts are presented in an unbiased manner, and not twisted to give misleading impressions or to support one view over another;
· References, or earlier work, are acknowledged where possible, and plagiarism is avoided.
Intellectual dishonesty is the precise opposite of these things!
Our intellect is the part of the mind with which we understand that which we perceive, the part of our mind with which we believe, know, memorize, reason, discriminate, and make decisions.
Genesis 1-11 is a collection of stories, and the Bible does not tell how we are to interpret them. An old Roman Catholic tradition (NOT God or His word) says that we are to interpret them as an accurate account of historic events. However, God has blessed us with the ability to know hundreds of millions of incontrovertible facts that prove that Genesis 1-11 is NOT an accurate account of historic events. Moreover, God has blessed us with the ability to correctly reason, properly discriminate, and make correct decisions.
Some people, however, have chosen to ignore these blessing from God, and to tenaciously cling to an old Roman Catholic tradition that even the Roman Catholic Church abandoned decades ago in favor of a careful and prayerful study of the Scriptures in the languages in which they were given to us by God—a pursuit that Bible-loving Protestant Christians have pursued for centuries.
I know with absolute certainty that the flood story in Genesis 7-9 is not at all an account of an actual event in the history of the earth. I know this with absolute certainty because of the genre of literature in which Gen. 1-11 is written; I know this with absolute certainty because the earth is not flat and covered with a dome (a requirement for the flood story to be true); and I know this with absolute certainty because there are hundreds of millions of well-documented facts about the history of the earth that incontrovertibly prove that it was never subjected to such a flood.
A realistic question is, “Why is the story of the flood in the Bible?”
A realistic question is, “Why is the story of the flood in the Bible?”
Simple answers to complex questions are seldom—if ever—the correct answers.
The flood story in Genesis is unique! Several cultures other than that of the ancient Hebrew people have recorded a flood story—but very different stories!—as we would expect due to the fact that many inhabited parts of the earth have experienced locally devastating floods.
The flood story in Genesis is unique! Several cultures other than that of the ancient Hebrew people have recorded a flood story—but very different stories!—as we would expect due to the fact that many inhabited parts of the earth have experienced locally devastating floods.
Says who? Your question is not complex, anyway. Its not about nuclear physics.
It would be strange if the stories would be the same without (even significant) differences. Nothing wrong with that.
Can you explain how did the Noah Flood and other Genesis stories get into the Chinese alphabet?
[video=youtube;12JMq17H_pk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12JMq17H_pk[/video]
It would be strange if the stories would be the same without (even significant) differences. Nothing wrong with that.
Can you explain how did the Noah Flood and other Genesis stories get into the Chinese alphabet?
[video=youtube;12JMq17H_pk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12JMq17H_pk[/video]
How LONG did it take the flood waters to recede after the flood? MONTHS? Or a very QUICK time interval?
Psalm 104:7 But at your rebuke the waters fled, at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;
…6You covered it with the deep as with a garment; The waters were standing above the mountains. 7At Your rebuke they fled, At the sound of Your thunder they hurried away.
How MANY floods were there? Genesis 1:2 gives a BIG HINT!
Psalm 104:7 But at your rebuke the waters fled, at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;
…6You covered it with the deep as with a garment; The waters were standing above the mountains. 7At Your rebuke they fled, At the sound of Your thunder they hurried away.
How MANY floods were there? Genesis 1:2 gives a BIG HINT!
J
Yep just like our very existence we can either speculate a thousand or more reasons concerning how and why concerning us but it just leads to more questions instead of answers,or we can accept that we exist and be grateful for existing and receive answers as we go about our lives,faith in essence whether for God or against God only is fruitful if one "believes wholly" then can you be "credible" if you just repeat words or speak them but them be empty then it's a waste,it's not a matter of some denomination or indoctrination that makes anyone "credible" to anyone,it's a matter of "sincerity".
It doesn't matter if said individual is a beggar,a wealthy person,a person of power,or a person from a high education,"what a person believes shows",the individual may or may not see it but the bible is clear that "you know others by their fruits"(work,endeavors) at some point an individual will "make up their mind" if one remains at a stand still then it is pointless and "results in nothing".
It doesn't matter if said individual is a beggar,a wealthy person,a person of power,or a person from a high education,"what a person believes shows",the individual may or may not see it but the bible is clear that "you know others by their fruits"(work,endeavors) at some point an individual will "make up their mind" if one remains at a stand still then it is pointless and "results in nothing".