Is the old testament obsolete?

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Blik

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I don't think that the law and the forgiveness that Christ offers us is that complicated. We can't earn our salvation because clearing us from the death of sinfulness is in the hands of Christ. Christ paid for our sin, and we can't do that, we are not God. But to take that fact as a reason to not work for the Lord is all completely wrong. We become Christ's child when we accept what He did for us. we are made pure and sin free. As a child of God we are to obey Him and God is against sin. As God's child we do what He tells us to and God tells us to not sin.

Some say that because of our sin state as a human person we can't obey perfectly so why try? God offers salvation after we repent, we don't go to God for forgiveness for something we intend to repeat over and over. Repentance requires turning away from sin.
 
bud62

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Blik said:
I don't think that the law and the forgiveness that Christ offers us is that complicated. We can't earn our salvation because clearing us from the death of sinfulness is in the hands of Christ. Christ paid for our sin, and we can't do that, we are not God. But to take that fact as a reason to not work for the Lord is all completely wrong. We become Christ's child when we accept what He did for us. we are made pure and sin free. As a child of God we are to obey Him and God is against sin. As God's child we do what He tells us to and God tells us to not sin.

Some say that because of our sin state as a human person we can't obey perfectly so why try? God offers salvation after we repent, we don't go to God for forgiveness for something we intend to repeat over and over. Repentance requires turning away from sin.
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JESUS says unless WE repent we will all likewise Perish .TO perish IS TO DIE , To perish MEANS GONE Eternally GONE, AND yES WE CAN PAY FOR OUR SINS , The thing Is I haft to DIE the Eternal DEATH 3:25 Tells us that HE died for our past Sins , NOT FOR THOSE in our FUTURE , WE haft to go back to JESUS , TO GET THOSE COVERED , Hebrews 10 : 26 Tells about willful sinning . IT tells us if we sin willfully , after we have received the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH . WELL IT LETS US KNOW THAT WE ARE IN A LOST POSITION . GOD help us ALL as HE sees fit .
 
Dino246

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bud62 said:
Romans 3:25 that died for our past Sins .
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When Jesus died on the cross, ALL of our sins were in the future. The context doesn't speak of the lifetimes of individuals, but of the Law and the Prophets, suggesting that the "sins previously committed" were prior to Christ's death.
 
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Dino246 said:
When Jesus died on the cross, ALL of our sins were in the future. The context doesn't speak of the lifetimes of individuals, but of the Law and the Prophets, suggesting that the "sins previously committed" were prior to Christ's death.
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Dino246 said:
When Jesus died on the cross, ALL of our sins were in the future. The context doesn't speak of the lifetimes of individuals, but of the Law and the Prophets, suggesting that the "sins previously committed" were prior to Christ's death.
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That would put even those in heaven that has not repented '.The BIBLE Hebrews 10:26 If we sin willfully after we have receive the knowledge , there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin , So if we sin knowing that it sin .Then we are just as lost as a wicked sinner him self . And it says that it would have been better if we had not known the way of truth , then after we have known the way and depart from it ,So they are in a worse place then one that has never been saved, GOD help us ALL .
 
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bud62 said:
That would put even those in heaven that has not repented '.The BIBLE Hebrews 10:26 If we sin willfully after we have receive the knowledge , there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin , So if we sin knowing that it sin .Then we are just as lost as a wicked sinner him self . And it says that it would have been better if we had not known the way of truth , then after we have known the way and depart from it ,So they are in a worse place then one that has never been saved, GOD help us ALL .
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Repentance alone does not qualify anyone for heaven; one must also have faith, for it is faith that justifies.
 
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Repentance alone does not qualify anyone for heaven; one must also have faith, for it is faith that justifies.
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But it's not just a believing faith that saves , It take a Believing faith that will work . faith with out works is dead .
 
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bud62 said:
But it's not just a believing faith that saves , It take a Believing faith that will work . faith with out works is dead .
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Are we going to get any farther from the thread topic before we come to a conclusion?
 
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