Is there a difference between being saved and salvation, and the new covenant?

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JacobMartinMertens

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Mem said:
So, if Jesus' offering covers the sin of the world, then salvation comes to the world, and the world can be saved. I guess I'm trying to understand how you've come to separate salvation from being saved.
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I am saved. The question is if I have salvation.

Some people say I am saved, I am being saved, and I will be saved.

Perhaps that is better than I am being saved and I will be saved, but I am not sure.

Salvation involves justification, sanctification, and glorification, but I am not sure about this line either.

I don't know what you mean by the word covers. I don't remember that from the Bible.
 
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JacobMartinMertens said:
I have been told that I have schizophrenia, but I don't believe it. My Rabbi said that he thinks I have a high functioning autism. But I don't believe that either.

I was talking with someone on another thread and he suggested that I make this thread. The Bible says to work out your salvation in fear and trembling. I want to make sure that I am saved.
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Rabbi? Don't they deny Jesus was the messiah?
 
Mem

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I can only think that you might believe that you are saved for some other purpose, such as to serve the Israelites whose it is written, "salvation is of the Jews (John 4:22)"?
 
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JacobMartinMertens said:
I don't know what you mean by the word covers. I don't remember that from the Bible.
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It meant to mean that it is applicable to not only Jews but to Gentiles also, the whole world.
 
Mem

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JacobMartinMertens said:
I don't know what that means. I just doesn't sound nice.

However, what kingdom? And, are we at all supposed to recognize God or Jesus as Master?
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If we are in Christ, we are born of God, and are called sons of God. Jesus revealed the Father to us, that is how we recognize God.
 
JacobMartinMertens

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Mem said:
Is there any verse(s) in particular that you are thinking of?
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This might help you.

Romans 1:19-20 NASB20 - because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible [attributes, that is,] His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, being understood by what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
 
Mem

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JacobMartinMertens said:
This might help you.

Romans 1:19-20 NASB20 - because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible [attributes, that is,] His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, being understood by what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
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What do you suppose are his visible attributes? Or are there none?
 
Mem

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JacobMartinMertens said:
I have no idea. Maybe God has appeared to man. I don't know what it might mean apart from this however.
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Romans 1
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

God has appeared to man, "and they knew Him not," they regarded Him as merely a mere mortal and exchanged His glory for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles, even though His invisible attributes are inherent in Him, His eternal power and divine nature is embodied in Jesus.
 
JacobMartinMertens

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Mem said:
Romans 1
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

God has appeared to man, "and they knew Him not," they regarded Him as merely a mere mortal and exchanged His glory for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles, even though His invisible attributes are inherent in Him, His eternal power and divine nature is embodied in Jesus.
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No.

Did Yahveh appear to Abraham or Abram?

Etc...

I believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.
 
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