Is this lawful for Jesus?

[Love4Truth]

Matthew 25
The Final Judgment
31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne.

And you don't think that this has happened yet? Where is His throne Zone? Have you not seen His Glory yet? You haven't seen all the angels with Him yet? Hummm.......

32Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left.

And this you don't think has happened yet either? Where are we seated Zone?
And where does the curse come from? Doesn't that fall under The Law?

34Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

So you don't believe that anyone has inherited The Kingdom yet? Hummm......

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels

I don't even have to ask here, on this, you and I see the Devil and his angels as something entirely different.



does that sound like correction to you? No, sounds like "Redemption to me".
any scriptures on those "cursed", including the devil coming back some time later from the lake of fire, have been purified, and entering the Kingdom?

No, the devil and his angels has never enter the Kingdom, but has been being destroyed by the fire, for 2,000 yrs. Day and Night.

Christ Reigns NOW, He sits on His throne NOW, and has been since His Resurrection, and has been continually putting "ALL" enemies under His feet and ours.



What a shame that you are not experiencing all these things, NOW, but like most are still waiting for something else to happen, the same as the Jews in their day, and your missing it.

God Bless

 

[PatientSpirit]

And to add to it. Do not they not understand that BOTH the night and the day is a DAY to God? It is us who make the seperation of the two with light claiming to know good and evil.

 

[Love4Truth]

And to add to it. Do not they not understand that BOTH the night and the day is a DAY to God? It is us who make the seperation of the two with light claiming to know good and evil.

That's because day and night has to do with time, the flesh, and this physical realm, that's why "the good and evil" analogy. But you and I know that In Him "All" is good.

 

[cfultz3]

*And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord; and great shall be the peace of thy children. [/B]

Are you trying to imply that the children of wrath and Satan are God's children too?

 

[cfultz3]

That's because day and night has to do with time, the flesh, and this physical realm, that's why "the good and evil" analogy. But you and I know that In Him "All" is good.

Not according to Genesis...in fact....He called the darkness Night and the light Day....Seems to me that there is but one Day and the Night is far spent......

 

[cfultz3]

No, the devil and his angels has never enter the Kingdom, but has been being destroyed by the fire, for 2,000 yrs. Day and Night.

Christ Reigns NOW, He sits on His throne NOW, and has been since His Resurrection, and has been continually putting "ALL" enemies under His feet and ours.



What a shame that you are not experiencing all these things, NOW, but like most are still waiting for something else to happen, the same as the Jews in their day, and your missing it.

God Bless

Hmmm. How can one be destroyed for 2000 years...Does God keep resurrecting him and destroying him?
Is Christ in the New Jersalem now and we missed the boat?
You are missing the mark worse then a blind person aiming for the bull's eyes 10 miles away.

But at least you are trying to make sense of things

 

[cfultz3]

Psalms 90:3

3*Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.

Let's take this verse. I think it's pretty straight forward, but I'm curious as to how you who TEACH that Jesus died to save the world but believe that the world is doomed.

Is this just the destruction of those that are saved? How is a non believer's destruction differ from this. Does this destruction mean the same as the one in the verses zone quoted?

And there shall be a new earth and a new heaven.....I suppose if there is a new one then the old one has to be rolled up and replaced....and hmmmm. who is on the outside of thee Kingdom....yeah....next.....your arguments seems to be a justification of sinning in the present and we all will be saved in the in.....

 

[PatientSpirit]

Are you trying to imply that the children of wrath and Satan are God's children too?

Proverbs 16:2-4

2*All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the Lord weigheth the spirits.

3*Commit thy works unto the Lord, and thy thoughts shall be established.

4*The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

 

[PatientSpirit]

Not according to Genesis...in fact....He called the darkness Night and the light Day....Seems to me that there is but one Day and the Night is far spent......

Genesis 1:4-5

4*And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5*And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

 

[Love4Truth]

Are you trying to imply that the children of wrath and Satan are God's children too?

You were a child of Wrath too, we talked about this yesterday, but you did not want to acknowledge it.


Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

 

[cfultz3]

You were a child of Wrath too, we talked about this yesterday, but you did not want to acknowledge it.


Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

If you have any love for truth, then you would stop this. Of course, who would be so stupid to say that they were never a child of wrath BEFORE they ACCEPTED Jesus as their Savior. AND guess what, if one does not accept Chirst then they ARE STILL a child of wrath. How can you people come here and speak your damnable heresry and still go arouond filling like a saint is beyond me. You all do nothing but spit in the face of Jesus' death and say ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL will be saved without faith.. I really do not have much to say you your kind besides WAKE UP from your follish slumber.

 

[Love4Truth]

And there shall be a new earth and a new heaven.....I suppose if there is a new one then the old one has to be rolled up and replaced....and hmmmm. who is on the outside of thee Kingdom....yeah....next.....your arguments seems to be a justification of sinning in the present and we all will be saved in the in.....

Do you really believe that one can just decide one day to just, stop sinning, without The indwelling Spirit of God?

And if you do, then you might as well profess that "your" own works saved you, because that is exactly what your doing by condemning others who have not yet been Quickened.

And you truly do not have any Spiritual understanding of what "The new Heaven and Earth" is do you?

 

[Love4Truth]

If you have any love for truth, then you would stop this. Of course, who would be so stupid to say that they were never a child of wrath BEFORE they ACCEPTED Jesus as their Savior. AND guess what, if one does not accept Chirst then they ARE STILL a child of wrath. How can you people come here and speak your damnable heresry and still go arouond filling like a saint is beyond me. You all do nothing but spit in the face of Jesus' death and say ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL will be saved without faith.. I really do not have much to say you your kind besides WAKE UP from your follish slumber.

That is a lie, we have NEVER said that, that is What you have Assumed.

 

[cfultz3]

Genesis 1:4-5

4*And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5*And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Even you capitalize Day and Night, so don't play games......bnlah blah blah

 

[cfultz3]

That is a lie, we have NEVER said that, that is What you have Assumed.

Oh stop it. it is the only conclusion to that universal salvation thing you two are trying to pawn off.

 

[cfultz3]

Do you really believe that one can just decide one day to just, stop sinning, without The indwelling Spirit of God?

And if you do, then you might as well profess that "your" own works saved you, because that is exactly what your doing by condemning others who have not yet been Quickened.

And you truly do not have any Spiritual understanding of what "The new Heaven and Earth" is do you?

What in the world does this reply have to do with what we are talking about?

 

[cfultz3]

Do you really believe that one can just decide one day to just, stop sinning, without The indwelling Spirit of God?

And if you do, then you might as well profess that "your" own works saved you, because that is exactly what your doing by condemning others who have not yet been Quickened.

And you truly do not have any Spiritual understanding of what "The new Heaven and Earth" is do you?

Are you saying that the wicked dead will have the indwelling of the Spirit in them....your foolish is beyond comprehension.

 

[Love4Truth]

Oh stop it. it is the only conclusion to that universal salvation thing you two are trying to pawn off.

No, it's the Only thing you can draw a conclusion to, and that is because you truly do not want to understand or know, how and why we believe what we believe, you would rather condemn us instead of listening to us.

No wonder The Lord has not Revealed this to you. And this attitude will keep you right where your at, so you will never see beyond what is written with pen and ink. I feel sad for you, you will never know on this side what it's like to truly see The King in His Glory, and here is where we need to the most.

 

[Love4Truth]

Are you saying that the wicked dead will have the indwelling of the Spirit in them....your foolish is beyond comprehension.

Do you understand that it is The Holy Spirit of God who drives the wicked/Unclean spirit out of the man.
And then fills him with His Spirit. This should be basic understanding for a Christian.

 

[cfultz3]

No, it's the Only thing you can draw a conclusion to, and that is because you truly do not want to understand or know, how and why we believe what we believe, you would rather condemn us instead of listening to us.

No wonder The Lord has not Revealed this to you. And this attitude will keep you right where your at, so you will never see beyond what is written with pen and ink. I feel sad for you, you will never know on this side what it's like to truly see The King in His Glory, and here is where we need to the most.

I know why you believe the way you do....the end conclusion to your rambling is = there will be no justice for sin....so live it up now and you will eventually have everlasting life... What a fool you are to say that we can sin like the devil and contradict every known Spirture which condemns the wicked to the second death.


I do not condemn you, your lies condemn you..

My Lord would not reveal a lie which says that there is eternal consequences to one's action...Might as well throw faith in the garbage and the blood which was shed for the righteous because, shooooot, even satan will be reconcilated with God when all is done and over with.. What a load of trash you are trying to spead.....