Is watching pornography a sin?

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We ate of the fruit in the garden, and instantly knew we were naked and thusly tried to cover our nakedness for we had shame.
 
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  1. Hebrews 13:4
    Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
    Hebrews 13:3-5 (in Context) Hebrews 13 (Whole Chapter)
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A WHOREMONGER a person who consorts with whores; lecher

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whoremonger

LECHERY IS:
Synonyms:
, lust, debauch,
Lechery is the behavior of men who are only interested in women sexually.

An example: His lechery made him the enemy of every self-respecting husband and father in the county. lecher



  • a man who is always thinking about sex and looking for sexual pleasure
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1 Corinthians 7:8-10 (King James Version)


8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.
9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
10And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:


Ecclesiastes 3:9-13 (King James Version)


9What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?
10I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.
11He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
12I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.
13And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.


Proverbs 5:18-20 (King James Version)


18Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.
19Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.
20And why wilt thou, my son, be ravished with a strange woman, and embrace the bosom of a stranger?


Ecclesiastes 9:9 (King James Version)


9Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.


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Why don't you say having sex (even with your wife) is a sin because you are feeding your flesh. Eating is sin because you are feeding your flesh. And so on...
And again I'm not trying to justify sin. I just want to find a text in the bible that says, Thinking, imagining, dreaming, or having sexual thoughts is a sin. Can anyone give me words from the Bible that causes you to think that having sexual thoughts is a sin?

And also, Why do people have kids in this sinful world?
 
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I do think pornography is a sin. Pornography is about lust. It seems like there are no strings attached maybe for some people but there is. I know a lot of men who have been addicted to porn. In their life it was impossible to control. So it went above their love for God. Luckily they where Spirit filled and knew God was asking them to stop. So they prayed. Some of them got healed instantly and never watched porn again. Others did a christian counseling course helping them of of their addiction.

Sex is not just to be seen. It's an act of love, within marriage. It's something really intimate, something personal. The bible says that two people become one flesh.

1 Corinthians 6:16
Sex is as much spiritual mystery as physical fact. As written in Scripture, "The two become one." Since we want to become spiritually one with the Master, we must not pursue the kind of sex that avoids commitment and intimacy, leaving us more lonely than ever—the kind of sex that can never "become one." (The Message)

This is for those 2 people who are together in marriage. Not for the world to see. It's just weird to me people want to see a lot of people having sex with eachother....that's just out of context. It's not special anymore. Pornography twists the minds of people...makes them think sex is just sex. It's not...it's a holy commitment, a seal on marriage. In the book Songs of Songs it tells an intimate story of love between two people. Some people say it's a metaphore for the love of Christ for the church. I do believe that too. But next to it I believe it's about a pure and desirable love between two people. It's holy, special and full commitment. When men, or woman, watch porn they don't need to take resposibilaty over the other person. It's not about love...it's just about lust. It stretches your boundaries too, because how are you going to deal with sex within a relationship when you have watched porn all that time? You have so many desires you probably could not wait for marriage. Now some people say that it never says in the bible that we should wait until marriage...but I have read some verses that imply it very well. For example:

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.

in some translations it says; sex within marriage is pure. Why...so that means outside of marriage its impure.

Oke so people say; but pornography is not actually having sex. Well no, but it's lusting after it...gets people addicted, get's them out of self control, let's them lose sight of the real meaning of sex and it breaks a lot of relationships. I've been there myself and it is not fun to be in a relationship with a pornaddict. I was a non christian and my exboyfriend watched porn a lot. He treated me differently and was always thinking about himself in bed. I truly do regret I had sex before marriage, but I didn't know better I was raised to think sex was "just sex". But it broke our relationship. I felt worth nothing and thought he was missing something with me and needed something else to really be satisfied. And I know a lot of woman who had the same view on it. And also I've seen some interviews with pornstars and with that I mean woman pornstars. A lot of them came out for it and said things: "I don't really enjoy it, I just know I have control over the man, makes me feel migthy". Also a lot of these woman had problems with man in the past some through abuse. And they just tell out loud they just hate man and they love it that they can have some control over them...

so long story...but honestly...does pornography give awesome, Godgiven, spiritual fruits? I don't think so.

Talk to Jesus and figure out what the truth really is.

All in the love of Christ.
 
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Only a sin if you're coming under conviction for it.
I remember seeing a movie on the Nuremberg trials. I think it was Hermann Göring who - in the movie - spoke in his own defense, claiming that people wouldn't object to killing rats, so why object to killing Jews?

Clearly the Nazi's lost all sensitivity to what was right and what was wrong. They had seared their consciences, and were no longer able to feel conviction for their wrongdoing.

The same thing can happen with porn or anything else, which is why we need God's Law.

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ow and one of the reasons why Jesus didn't have a wife (I think it's the biggest reason as well). Is because He had a totally different goal in life. The one goal only He could fulfill. To die for us on the cross. He needed His eyes fixed on God and on His ministry, a wife could have kept His eyes of the goal. Ah well...then again He was God in human...but yeah that's what I think :) And children should indeed not be raised by the world (although they ofcourse need to be raised in the world). I myself have difficulties with thinking of ever receiving children because I also think this is a wicked world. But when I see how children are being raised by God gifted men and woman I am so astonished by the wisdom these kids have. If we aren't going to raise God charactered childeren who else will? As christians we need to take a stand in the world and show them Gods love. If every christian would stop having babies there would be less people spreading the word. Although ofcourse God converts people ;) but still.
 
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Pornography has within the term itself the word for fornication (pornea). Those who perform for pornography are nothing more than prostitutes... sex for pay. Whether in person or by means of a video or photo one is lusting after the person or they would not persist in looking upon it.

The Holy Spirit via Paul warns of those who "approve of those who practice them" (Rom. 1:32)
 

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I'm Christian i don't have anything against God. God is my best friend. I believe that Jesus died for all people's sin. I obey his commandments. I'm trying to be good, and i don't sin on purpose. And whenever i sin i always ask God to forgive me. What is next? I still live here on earth. And while i live here i have this desires, desire to eat, sexual desires, etc... I wish i didn't have them but i have them. When you are hungry you have desire to eat. And when you are sexually hungry you have desire to have sex(i don't see anything bad about it. As long as it's desires). I don't think that it's a sin to have these desires in your mind.
Having a sex drive with no ability for release is not an easy thing to deal with. I understand where you are coming from. But there is a difference between sex and food. If you don't eat, you will die. If you don't have sex, you will live. It might be uncomfortable but you can survive without it.

The second thing I would like to say, is that God has better plans for you. If you were closer to Him - the way He intends for all His children to be - then you wouldn't have any desire for pornography at all. You would live every day to glorify Him. That's mankind's problem. We fill the gap with anything that isn't God, because we have stubborn hearts that refuse to bow the knee to Him.

Believe God's Word, realize how great His Character and Will is, and then ask Him to help you choose His Will over your own.

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Why don't you say having sex (even with your wife) is a sin because you are feeding your flesh. Eating is sin because you are feeding your flesh. And so on...
And again I'm not trying to justify sin. I just want to find a text in the bible that says, Thinking, imagining, dreaming, or having sexual thoughts is a sin. Can anyone give me words from the Bible that causes you to think that having sexual thoughts is a sin?

And also, Why do people have kids in this sinful world?
Kostik, you are misunderstanding the relationship that God intends to have with His people:

John 17:
21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.


The Bible says that a married couple also become one flesh. The idea of marriage is God's reflection of the relationship He wants with His people. God wants us to be one spirit and flesh with him, completely aligned to the same goals and desires. God exists to serve us and we exist to serve Him in a perfect bond. Marriage is the same thing.


So when a married couple have sex, they are serving their partner, not themselves.


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Pornography has within the term itself the word for fornication (pornea). Those who perform for pornography are nothing more than prostitutes... sex for pay. Whether in person or by means of a video or photo one is lusting after the person or they would not persist in looking upon it.

The Holy Spirit via Paul warns of those who "approve of those who practice them" (Rom. 1:32)
Yep, I've never figured out why "johns" are criminalized and treated as such terrible people by the media, yet men who pay women to perform with them in a movie are just adult movie producers/performers.

Actually, maybe I do know why. Though the sins are identical, the porn industry pays taxes to the government while johns do not. I do know that massage parlors are also allowed because they pay taxes too. You can bet the politicians in each respective city/state/country know what happens in adult massage businesses but they don't make any effort to shut them down.

Pornography is just paying for a prostitute, which makes every man who has ever viewed porn, a john.

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all of these things show that the person has a problem, with their sexuality. that is the real problem, which jesus would really love to heal. i tell you the truth, these things become addictions, and the person so ensnared is captive to do them even against their will.
 
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I don't think just looking would be sin part. It's the hand that does the sinning while looking. And now seriously, you know its an addiction. It pleases you in the way that is not part of the being you want to be. Else you would not have asked this question ;)

Stop the part where you have to define everything around as 'sin' or 'not sin'. You have the scripture. When in doubt pray. God has programmed you with whats right and whats wrong.
 

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I don't think just looking would be sin part. It's the hand that does the sinning while looking. And now seriously, you know its an addiction. It pleases you in the way that is not part of the being you want to be. Else you would not have asked this question ;)

Stop the part where you have to define everything around as 'sin' or 'not sin'. You have the scripture. When in doubt pray. God has programmed you with whats right and whats wrong.

looking is a sin too. next time you look down the blouse of a young woman, ask the spirit what he thinks of it.
 
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next time you look down the blouse of a young woman, ask the spirit what he thinks of it.

I think that God would say what He said in Genesis about Eve's naked body, "and He saw that it was good".
 
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What else would He say? Does God not already know what is underneath the blouse anyway?
 
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As a human i don't see anything bad about having sexual thoughts (it doesn't have any bad consequences). But it looks like God cares about our thoughts. The only thing i don't understand is how come you can sin with your thoughts, but you can't do good deeds with your thoughts(you can't help others by your thoughts).
 

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As a human i don't see anything bad about having sexual thoughts (it doesn't have any bad consequences). But it looks like God cares about our thoughts. The only thing i don't understand is how come you can sin with your thoughts, but you can't do good deeds with your thoughts(you can't help others by your thoughts).
I think that your thoughts reflect outwardly Kostik. Maybe not immediately, but those inward thoughts will come out eventually. I will give you an example of this:

I was so angry at our landlord. If you knew what the people in my apartment building have gone through you would understand. Now, the landlord was threatening to look the furnace room door. Daily we are required to go down and turn the heat up because the furnace defaults back to 69 degrees Fahrenheit. She never could understand my repeated explanations of why the furnace defaults back to 69. Right on the furnace itself it says: "Hold temperature until:" and as soon as that time comes, the furnace defaults to 69 again.

Anyway, I kept thinking about how I would threaten to call the police if they locked that door. I was so angry pondering this. Finally, one day a man with her said that they were going to put a lock on the door. Guess what I said? I threatened to call the police on them.

So, what we think on the inside will come out of us eventually. Good thoughts = good deeds. Evil thoughts = evil deeds.

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By far, the most searched for terms on the internet are related to pornography. Pornography is rampant in the world today. Perhaps more than anything else, Satan has succeeded in twisting and perverting sex. He has taken what is good and right (loving sex between a husband and wife) and replaced it with lust, pornography, adultery, rape, and homosexuality. Pornography can be the first step on a very slippery slope of ever-increasing wickedness and immorality (Romans 6:19). The addictive nature of pornography is well documented. Just as a drug user must consume greater and more powerful quantities of drugs to achieve the same “high,” pornography drags a person deeper and deeper into hard-core sexual addictions and ungodly desires.

The three main categories of sin are the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life (1 John 2:16). Pornography definitely causes us to lust after flesh, and it is undeniably a lust of the eyes. Pornography definitely does not qualify as one of the things we are to think about, according to Philippians 4:8. Pornography is addictive (1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19), and destructive (Proverbs 6:25-28; Ezekiel 20:30; Ephesians 4:19). Lusting after other people in our minds, which is the essence of pornography, is offensive to God (Matthew 5:28). When habitual devotion to pornography characterizes a person’s life, it demonstrates the person is not saved (1 Corinthians 6:9).

The bottom line is, your action starts from your mind. You eat because you feel hungry, and then you start thinking about what you are going to eat. After that you get the food to eat. The same thing with sexual desires, you feel it then you start looking, wondering, fantazising and then the last thing you would do is act on it. When you said that being hungry is not a sin, yes it is not a sin but then when you start choosing what you eat and if you keep feeding your body with junk food, unhealthy food, then it becomes a sin. Guess what happen after you keep feeding your body unhealthy food in a long period of time? You will get sick! The same thing when you keep feeding your mind with junk, trash, unhealthy thoughts. What is next? Having sexual desires (sex drive) is not a sin since we are a sexual being. But then what do you do about it that is a different thing.

In God's Word there is no gray areas. it is simple and plain pretty much. Either it is right or wrong never in between. No compromise!

16 Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 17 God will destroy anyone who destroys this temple. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple. (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)
 

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pornography is of the devil.

what more needs to be said?

men and women were made to be attracted to each other, by god.

what the devil has done with this attraction is truly a sick and twisted perversion.

the devil has gone much farther than this with his schemes. he has put blinders over the eyes of the young, not all, but very many, and given them a sleeping spirit of promiscuity, which leads them into degrading acts which defile their bodies. this is much worse than many realize. they need to be rescued from this.