Is your denomination misleading you?
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you have that backwards
the life of Jesus shows the way to keep the ten commandments
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John 8:46 [JESUS]Which of you convinceth me of breaking any commandment? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
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Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
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why you trying to get rid of the ten commandments?
becuause that is the only way the ministers can have any credibility to keep sunday
that is what it is al about
no one minds not killing people
no one minds not stealing
but they will not give up the pope day for that is their income
if they switched to Sabbath their people would leave and go to another church
that is the whole story
so they try and twist the Bible to show its ok to keep something not in the bible
it is not ok says JEsus
you have to get a backbone and follow the bible
becuause that is the only way the ministers can have any credibility to keep sunday
that is what it is al about
no one minds not killing people
no one minds not stealing
but they will not give up the pope day for that is their income
if they switched to Sabbath their people would leave and go to another church
that is the whole story
so they try and twist the Bible to show its ok to keep something not in the bible
it is not ok says JEsus
you have to get a backbone and follow the bible
Do you follow the 10 commandments? When you say "ten commandments" I think of things found in Exodus 34. Some samples:
Exodus34:13 Rather you must destroy their altars, smash their images, and cut down their Asherah poles.
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34:19 “Every firstborn of the wombbelongs to me, even every firstbornof your cattle that is a male,whether ox or sheep. 34:20 Now the firstling of a donkey you may redeem with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, then break its neck. You must redeem all the firstborn of your sons. “No one will appear before me empty-handed.
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34:22 “You must observethe Feast of Weeks – the firstfruits of the harvest of wheat – and the Feast of Ingathering at the endof the year. 34:23 At three timesin the year all your men must appear before the Lord God,the God of Israel.
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34:25 “You must not offer the blood of my sacrifice with yeast; the sacrifice from the feast of Passover must not remain until the following morning.
34:26 “The first of the firstfruits of your soil you must bring to the house of the Lord your God.
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34:28 ........He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
I don't even see how it's physically possible to do most of Exodus 34.
Exodus34:13 Rather you must destroy their altars, smash their images, and cut down their Asherah poles.
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34:19 “Every firstborn of the wombbelongs to me, even every firstbornof your cattle that is a male,whether ox or sheep. 34:20 Now the firstling of a donkey you may redeem with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, then break its neck. You must redeem all the firstborn of your sons. “No one will appear before me empty-handed.
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34:22 “You must observethe Feast of Weeks – the firstfruits of the harvest of wheat – and the Feast of Ingathering at the endof the year. 34:23 At three timesin the year all your men must appear before the Lord God,the God of Israel.
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34:25 “You must not offer the blood of my sacrifice with yeast; the sacrifice from the feast of Passover must not remain until the following morning.
34:26 “The first of the firstfruits of your soil you must bring to the house of the Lord your God.
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34:28 ........He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
I don't even see how it's physically possible to do most of Exodus 34.
The seventh day is a memorial of creation and a witness to its Creator. You can't change a memorial to another day. God created everything in seven days and till this very day the whole world still honors a seven day week. In the same way you can't change the date of your birth. Your birthday is a memorial of your birth. Keeping the Sabbath under the new covenant must be defined by the teachings and life example of Jesus. He taught many, many times on how to honor the Sabbath in light of things that come up on the Sabbath. He never, not even once, talked about Sunday. Satan did away with the seventh day Sabbath because it testifies of creation and God as the Creator and Satan hates that. Satan is also doing away with marriage between a man and a woman. Both of these are part of creation itself and are valuable to God. Marriage testifies of creation and how God enabled us to reproduce and fill the whole earth. God also uses marriage between a man and a woman to help us understand our relationship with Him. Satan hates all this so he is doing away with all of it and he using religion to do it.
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Well the apostles did they didn’t maintain both, The US did when it combined Lincoln and Washington’s Birthday into one (Presidents day) the year of Jubilee was as well do you celebrate it? Giving back any property you bought? It was a shadow of what Christ fulfilled at the cross our rest is in Him and His works not ours.
You don’t celebrate the lesser after you have the better, but if you do, keep that 30ft cord and don’t leave the house on Saturday to go to church, as you violated the Sabbath. Wanna talk about other Seventh day false teachings and why it’s a cult?
You don’t celebrate the lesser after you have the better, but if you do, keep that 30ft cord and don’t leave the house on Saturday to go to church, as you violated the Sabbath. Wanna talk about other Seventh day false teachings and why it’s a cult?
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Are you bitter? Do you hate? Christ can take that burden from you, you know. I am merely "set for defense of the gospel". You are spouting nonsense and unbiblical doctrine. Perhaps you should search and see what Christ had to say about those that teach for doctrine the commandments of men.
Your opinion, or what you believe, doesn't matter one iota unless it aligns with the word of God. I showed you clear scripture and you are still trying to say you didn't get wet when you fell in the pond. You and the other sabbath keepers here need to have an election so the rest of of know which one of you is president of the great state of denial.
Your opinion, or what you believe, doesn't matter one iota unless it aligns with the word of God. I showed you clear scripture and you are still trying to say you didn't get wet when you fell in the pond. You and the other sabbath keepers here need to have an election so the rest of of know which one of you is president of the great state of denial.
If we look at Ex 20:11, we see that the Eternal blessed and hallowed the Sabbath at creation week.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
We find it in effect prior to Mt. Sinai...
Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
And God calls it a Commandment and a Law prior to Mt. Sinai...
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
I do believe it was in effect from creation.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
We find it in effect prior to Mt. Sinai...
Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
And God calls it a Commandment and a Law prior to Mt. Sinai...
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
I do believe it was in effect from creation.
The words blessed, holy and sanctified give value and meaning to the seventh day. The 4th commandment points us back to the day when God created the seventh day as a holy day. The 4th commandment tells us to remember to keep it holy. That means it was made holy time at its creation, just like God said. And we have to remember that the Law on stone was given because of transgression. That means the things contained in the Law should have been followed by man but they weren't because man was evil in his heart continually. The Ten Commandments on stone didn't make the Ten Commandments sin, the things contained in the Ten Commandments were already sinful before the stone tablets, God is just pointing it out to us. Remember, Cain was guilty of murder long before the Law said, "Thou shall not kill".
Why is it that those who reject the blessing of honoring the seventh day they use Old Covenant principles to validate why they reject it. Yet they say we are not under the Old Covenant. The New Covenant is founded on the teachings of Jesus and He taught much on how to honor the Sabbath in light of things that come up on the Sabbath. He never, not even once, talked about Sunday. So now, who do you follow?
Question - Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer - Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Question - Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer - We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday. The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd ed.
"The Bible says, Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day. The Catholic church says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep the first day of the week. And lo, the entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic church!" Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College, Kansas City, Mo., History of the Sabbath, p. 802
"Sunday is our mark of authority...The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
Question - Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer - Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Question - Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer - We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday. The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd ed.
"The Bible says, Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day. The Catholic church says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep the first day of the week. And lo, the entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic church!" Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College, Kansas City, Mo., History of the Sabbath, p. 802
"Sunday is our mark of authority...The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
The key word here is "physical". Scripture is given to us using the physical to explain the spiritual. We are given the Holy Spirit to help us see the spiritual in the physical, we are to see the God principles and told legalistic obedience is no good, we are to obey in spirit and truth . We are also told to search the scriptures. We are told that we must have faith, but faith without works (the physical part) is dead. It is a lot like multitasking, all of these things apply.
So we must cut down the idols from our land that we live in, the part of the land that belongs to us. God gives us our needs, but we owe God for everything, God created all, it first belonged to Him. We are to know the ten commandments were so important they were kept in the arc representing God living among the people.
We are not an agricultural people any more, the physical temple and the high priest is perfected through Christ, but the principles remain the same.
So we must cut down the idols from our land that we live in, the part of the land that belongs to us. God gives us our needs, but we owe God for everything, God created all, it first belonged to Him. We are to know the ten commandments were so important they were kept in the arc representing God living among the people.
We are not an agricultural people any more, the physical temple and the high priest is perfected through Christ, but the principles remain the same.