ISLAM and MUSLIMS

[PrynceNY]

Wow, here you are lying about it some more. There is no cure for your dishonesty and blindness but the Lord. May he open your stubbornly closed eyes to the truth. In the meantime please let it go. Yeah, you are disrespectful, but still not the most disrespectful. Poor you. You tried so hard, too!

To avoid you being judged for your own words i'll end this conversation now. I will pray you will reach repentance not only towards me but towards others you have argued with on here. Otherwise you will be unpleasantly surprised when the Lord addresses you on things you thought you could get away with on judgement day. This thread can resume discussing islam and muslims, have a blessed day.

 

[Magenta]

To avoid you being judged for your own words i'll end this conversation now. I will pray you will reach repentance not only towards me but towards others you have argued with on here. Otherwise you will be unpleasantly surprised when the Lord addresses you on things you thought you could get away with on judgement day. This thread can resume discussing islam and muslims, have a blessed day.

Yes, my own words admitted to what you continue to deny. You misrepresent
not only yourself, but me and God. Shame on you, and may God have mercy.

 

[Magenta]

 

[Magenta]

 

[kaylagrl]

Magenta there is something very off with you at the moment.

My previous posts were to encourage and share testimony to how it is
possible to spread the gospel to Muslims and where to start.

If you are unable to see that for what it was, then I think you may be
batting for the wrong side. Maybe you need to calm down a bit and take
stock about why the possibility of sharing the gospel with Muslims,
gets you all riled up, and how the Holy Spirit can bring Muslim
people across our paths at just the right time.

I wont be posting any more on this thread as I see no need for pointless
countless arguments, which will interfere with the debates others are having.
The only reason I have posted this is because previous
posts were in the public.

But if you want to discuss further then as long as you keep it civil I would
welcome PMs.

Just one other point yes some Muslims murder, rape etc. But hey look at the
life of Saul/Paul. He deliberately sought out Christians to persecute them.
Look what God did in his life. No one can sink so far as to be unreachable.
There are also many Muslims who do not murder, rape etc who live out life's like
normal every day people, working having children, paying bills, doing the gardening
etc.

Quote "Just one other point yes some Muslims murder, rape etc. But hey look at the
life of Saul/Paul. He deliberately sought out Christians to persecute them.
Look what God did in his life. No one can sink so far as to be unreachable.
There are also many Muslims who do not murder, rape etc who live out life's like
normal every day people, working having children, paying bills, doing the gardening
etc.


Im not going to get into the crossfire here. But I do have to say this is where the misunderstanding is coming once again. When a person says "some Muslims" do this and that,you are not understanding that they are following what their prophet did,what their holy book tells them to do.That is the Islamic belief system. Those Muslims who are secular are the same as you and me,infidels and only fit to be enslaved or killed. This is what we are trying to say. The religion is demonic and we must understand it if we are to witness to them. Otherwise you will be deceived. Christians have even said to me,well allah is like our God,we believe in the same God. What we are saying is to be aware of the deception and know what they believe.Know that if a Muslim is not committing jihad they are not following the tenants of their faith and are an infidel the same as you or I.

 

[Magenta]

Im not going to get into the crossfire here.

Heh, how could you? Miri has bowed out after making all her false accusations and saying she thought I was on Satan' side, while letting on she was open to polite conversation with me. I mean, really? Does that sound polite? Or does it mean, please be considerate of my feelings but I will trash yours?

 

[kaylagrl]

Sorry but name calling does nothing to me so the only thing your doing unfortunately is bringing more upon yourself on judgement day. Every single thing with you is a personal attack and I stated before it's not that serious. God knows the truth, yet you repeatedly state generalizations. I do recall you and blue saying that person who asked people to pm them as "foolish" to do are you going to acknowledge that or do i have to expose you

You need to leave that subject alone! You still have no idea what happened and you have no one to expose. Magenta knew what you did not as did Lady Blue so you need to leave that subject closed!

 

[Magenta]

You need to leave that subject alone! You still have no idea what happened and you have no one to expose. Magenta knew what you did not as did Lady Blue so you need to leave that subject closed!

I did not know anything at the time except the whole thing raised red flags, and seemed really inappropriate for a newcomer, especially after she let it be known she was a virgin (so she said... I mean, nobody even knew if it was really a "she") who wished to discuss sexual matter privately with men... and of course later she blamed that divulgence on someone else. The other main guy from the former thread was in here earlier slamming on me and doing the usual with all his false accusations.

 

[joaniemarie]

They are trying to take over Australia as well. They want to create little countries within the host country, like a parasite that will devour and destroy its host. This is not the video I was looking for but a good example of what is coming as their numbers increase.

[video=youtube;bH60P3LV5ZQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH60P3LV5ZQ[/video]

Yup., those "poor humble people" looking for a place to call home..... Shocking isn't it that we don't want them here in the U.S. ?!

They are already here quickly coming to this same kind of out and out lunacy. While our stupid liberal media along with Hollywood movie stars and other clueless individuals seek to open our boarders. Thank God for President Trump and his administration.

As well as free and open news coming from all over the world. But even so., evil has made some major strides and we are coming close to anarchy just like the Bible warns where good is called evil and evil is called good. Right and wrong are left up to the individual and law is ignored.

All of this is foretold in the Bible.

 

[Magenta]

Amen, thank God for Donald Trump. Regardless of anything else anyone says about him, or how they cry about needing protection from their media fed irrational fear of him, at least he has begun to put the brakes on the insanity that is enveloping other nations with the forced migration of these Muslim men, many of whom pretend to be children to gain illegal access to a country they have no intention or desire to integrate into.

 

[kaylagrl]

Heh, how could you? Miri has bowed out after making all her false accusations and saying she thought I was on Satan' side, while letting on she was open to polite conversation with me. I mean, really? Does that sound polite? Or does it mean, please be considerate of my feelings but I will trash yours?

I do not understand why this issue is so difficult for Christians.Is it because we have become so PC? Is it that we ourselves have been brainwashed into acceptance? Why do people get so upset when you call a spade a shovel?! Neither of us has said God cannot reach a Muslim. But if you say anything against the religion at all it starts war. I cannot speak of this to my own family,especially those from Canada. I have a cousin that was so close to me and when I talked about Islam, I cant tell you the horrible things she said to me wide open on my FB page in front of my friends and family.I finally had to block her and we are no longer speaking. I dont understand how telling the truth about Islam = Islamophobic,racist and hate mongering.smh The church has been deceived,terribly deceived.

 

[joaniemarie]

The problem with this thread, and you in particular, is the angry rhetoric and half truths. You are full of hate, which perhaps I wrongly assumed comes out of fear, in the case of the Europeans. Sorry if it seems like I was saying that about you, although, methinks, thou dost protesteth too much!

If you just presented your story, I would be happy. If you even presented facts, that would be fine, although I would certainly look deeper at your sources. Instead, you post these extremists videos, which no one cares to watch. And not one or two, but many! If that isn't coming from fear, I don't know what is.

And the PROBLEM with Islam, in the end, which I believe I have stated in this thread, is that THEY DO NOT KNOW CHRIST! And the only answer is not hating them, posting half-cocked facts and videos, but working together to bring the truth of the gospel to Muslims in our own countries. The point of that being, these people have better access to their former countries. They can then take the gospel back to their countries with them. That is really reaching the world.

Your posts have been totally exclusionary, and yes, based on fear, and its result, hate mongering. I'm sorry if you think I am being hypocritical, when I try and be a minister of reconciliation of the gospel. Your viewpoint is so worldly, and not what I would have expected of you when you first came into this forum.

"So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer.17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." 2 Cor. 5:16-21

Magenta, you are usually the one posting Scriptures, which I have always admired you for doing, and being so consistent at it. But not this thread. You are hysterical, and you do sound like either someone who has been threatened by radical Islam, (I hope not, but then I understand!) or you have spent too much time in the News Forum, and become Americanized in your view of other cultures and religions. Certainly, we are not a mosaic in Canada, but God has opened doors for people from other cultures and religions into Canada, and we are not taking advantage of it. I am as guilty as you, I cannot lie, but at least mine lack of reaching the lost is not because of this incredible hate you are displaying.

I guess we will have to disagree on your defintion of "educating" Christians. I would call it "creating further animosity." Do you know how many non-Christians read these threads? Many! I am surprised that no Muslims had pop up notices this forum about Islam and they are reading this thread right now. Do you think you have shown them God's love? Have you shown them that we are all sinners and Christ died on the cross?

Be objective and go back and read what you wrote and posted! I personally think "hate-mongering" is a little weak for what you have done. We won't even get into attacking an honest seeker of God, because he posted something that wasn't to your liking! I shouldn't say this, but that is narrow minded to the nth degree.

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[Magenta]

I do not understand why this issue is so difficult for Christians.Is it because we have become so PC? Is it that we ourselves have been brainwashed into acceptance?

The issue was more, do Muslims really accept the first five books of the Bible? The claim I countered was, they do. I said they did not, and gave a few examples, one of which was major. All were dismissed as if being trivial, when in fact the main issue is that Christ is foundational and Islam swaps Isaac to replace him with Ishmael, allowing Muslims to deny Jesus as the blessing to the whole world promised through Isaac, the child of promise, in order to elevate and promote Mohammed, a descendant of Ishmael, whom Muslims claim to be the child of promise... even though God calls Isaac Abraham's only son more than once. Muslims deny this as well.

I pointed these truths out and was accused of wanting to deprive people of the truth; of desiring to prevent the spread of the gospel; of working for Satan; there may be others. Polite conversation, you know...

 

[kaylagrl]

The issue was more, do Muslims really accept the first five books of the Bible? The claim I countered was, they do. I said they did not, and gave a few examples, one of which was major. All were dismissed as if being trivial, when in fact the main issue is that Christ is foundational and Islam swaps Isaac to replace him with Ishmael, allowing Muslims to deny Jesus as the blessing to the whole world promised through Isaac, the child of promise, in order to elevate and promote Mohammed, a descendant of Ishmael, whom Muslims claim to be the child of promise... even though God calls Isaac Abraham's only son more than once. Muslims deny this as well.

I pointed these truths out and was accused of wanting to deprive people of the truth; of desiring to prevent the spread of the gospel; of working for Satan; there may be others. Polite conversation, you know...

​ See! I dont get it! There use to be a time when we denounced evil.Lets talk about the Nazis.When it was discovered what had been done in the Holocaust the church said it was evil. But if you say the same thing about Islam people scream Islamophobia!! Which in my opinion should never come out of a Christians mouth because its nothing more than progressive liberal brainwashing. Inventing words to make Christians look horrible for telling the truth about Islam. Islamophobia,xenophobia,homophobia all words invented to come against Christians. It should never be used by one believer against another. I dont get the freak out when the truth is told about Islam and calling evil evil. I dont see why you are being attacked and then attacked for defending yourself.smh

 

[Mike777]

Hi Magenta. How are you today?

 

[Magenta]

​ See! I dont get it! There use to be a time when we denounced evil.Lets talk about the Nazis.When it was discovered what had been done in the Holocaust the church said it was evil. But if you say the same thing about Islam people scream Islamophobia!! Which in my opinion should never come out of a Christians mouth because its nothing more than progressive liberal brainwashing. Inventing words to make Christians look horrible for telling the truth about Islam. Islamophobia,xenophobia,homophobia all words invented to come against Christians. It should never be used by one believer against another. I dont get the freak out when the truth is told about Islam and calling evil evil. I dont see why you are being attacked and then attacked for defending yourself.smh

Miri overlooked my complimenting her for how she was ale to witness to Muslims and seemed to focus not on what I said but on things I did not say. For instance, she claimed I had accused her of not believing the Bible. Where that came from I have no idea, because I did no such thing. I was making the point that Muslims do not really accept or believe the first five books, when she had said they do. Their creation account is different, and one of Noah's sons drowns in the Koran. There are probably other discrepancies, but like I said, the main one is about who the son of promise is. That is major, it is foundational, and it should not be minimized and said they accept these as Biblical truths when their whole false religion is based upon Mohammed being the progeny of Ishmael whom Muslims believe to be the child of promise to Abraham and Sarah...

 

[joaniemarie]

Magenta why do you have so much hate in your heart? That is not a question of whether you do or not, I am merely asking you why, so that I might understand you better. But if you would prefer to respond with a lie, then carry on.

It's like this mj007..... you are on the phone with your friend "Magenta" talking about life.

All of the sudden you get a knock on your door. It's a group of people dressed in nice white suits. Magenta just heard from her neighbor down the road that these same white suited individuals came to their door the day before and raped her leaving her for dead...., raped then stole her children and killed her husband.

Magenta is desperately tell you

"DON'T OPEN YOUR DOOR mj007 THEY WILL KILL YOU! Keep your door locked and keep your wife and children from the same fate of my neighbor!!!

Are you really going to accuse Magenta of having hate in her heart for warning you and trying to tell you the truth? If so...... you're ......'not wise'

 

[Magenta]

Hi Magenta. How are you today?

Hello Mike, I am well, thanks for asking How are you?

 

[jaybird88]

beating their wives, keeping them covered up, preventing them mixing in society, forcing girl into unhappy marriages?. Do they share this with Western culture too?

whats the deal with all the Muslim women i see working at all these places? thought they werent allowed outside?

 

[jaybird88]

Because to them welfare is riches untold and guaranteed obtainable in a place of safety. Their alternative is to starve in their own country due to their 'love' for one another..

they starve in their own country because anything with food is destroyed by the US military.