ISLAM and MUSLIMS

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kaylagrl

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whats the deal with all the Muslim women i see working at all these places? thought they werent allowed outside?
Secular Muslims,and you know better than that. You know how women are treated under this belief system and you would never treat your girlfriend that way.
 
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kaylagrl

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they starve in their own country because anything with food is destroyed by the US military.
So you're saying Assad is not starving his people? You're saying its the military doing all this?
 
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jaybird88

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So you're saying Assad is not starving his people? You're saying its the military doing all this?
i dont know a lot about Assad. i read a lot about saddam Hussan. he was a brutal cruel leader that overthrew a democratic elected president. when he was at his worst in the 70s and 80s the US had no problem and sent him lots of funds to help out. he was put into position by the US. when he invaded kuwait he did not invade without first asking US which we said go right a head, kuwait had been taken from iraq 100 before by britain, when iraq invaded the US had their reason to invade iraq.
 
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I used a phrase a few years ago, a muslim woman is a walking hand grenade.

That is their philosophy of life. It is self destructive and hurts and destroys those
who get near.
 
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kaylagrl

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i dont know a lot about Assad. i read a lot about saddam Hussan. he was a brutal cruel leader that overthrew a democratic elected president. when he was at his worst in the 70s and 80s the US had no problem and sent him lots of funds to help out. he was put into position by the US. when he invaded kuwait he did not invade without first asking US which we said go right a head, kuwait had been taken from iraq 100 before by britain, when iraq invaded the US had their reason to invade iraq.

Ok but I was talking about Assad,I dont know as much about Hussan,I wasn't in the US during that period. Was that during Clintons time or the first Bush? Id have to read up on that to comment.
 

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[video=youtube;a1CRTpJrDcI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1CRTpJrDcI[/video]

Australia's Senate Pauline Hanson, claimed the nation is "in danger of being swamped by Muslims." She goes on to say, "If you are not prepared to become Australian and give this country your undivided loyalty, obey our laws, respect our laws and our way of life then I suggest you go back where you came from."


Senator Pauline Hansen needs to come to America and be a special guest on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, and MPR. I wonder if Fox News has already had her on as a guest? She and Judge Jeanine sound like sisters except with different accents! America needs to be educated by those who have already walked with Islam and been burned. I pray all God fearing men and woman of the free world ban together against this evil.
 
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jaybird88

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Ok but I was talking about Assad,I dont know as much about Hussan,I wasn't in the US during that period. Was that during Clintons time or the first Bush? Id have to read up on that to comment.
hussan goes back to the 60s but the first current war started with bush sr. clinton continued the same policies in Iraq after.

most of these leaders are put in power by the US. we have a long history of this in central and south america. we dont mess with the canadian goverment. yet canada has the same prosperety as US and all the countries south are poor as dirt. they are made poor by the US.
 
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​ See! I dont get it! There use to be a time when we denounced evil.Lets talk about the Nazis.When it was discovered what had been done in the Holocaust the church said it was evil. But if you say the same thing about Islam people scream Islamophobia!! Which in my opinion should never come out of a Christians mouth because its nothing more than progressive liberal brainwashing. Inventing words to make Christians look horrible for telling the truth about Islam. Islamophobia,xenophobia,homophobia all words invented to come against Christians. It should never be used by one believer against another. I dont get the freak out when the truth is told about Islam and calling evil evil. I dont see why you are being attacked and then attacked for defending yourself.smh
When folks who call themselves "christians" are so blind that they'll fight with you about something like this, I would use the term "reprobates", because they openly allow such evil in their life.

Just another reminder of where we're at in biblical prophecy.:eek:
 
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The problem with Islam is mainly the label.

Socially it takes over everything by calling everything islamic.
To then speak negatively about this is anti-islamic and therefore blasphemy and
punishable by death. If you give into this mindset it is an embrace of death.

So the most dedicated muslims turn out to be psychopathic murderers.
And do disagree with them is to put your own head on the chopping block.

You can see it in the press here. Make a joke about Islam, you risk your life.
What? How can something like an opinion become a life problem.

So wear the veil, and then be called out as being muslim is hatred of Islam therefore
blasphemy etc.

This is the danger of this way of thinking. It embeds itself into every aspect of peoples
lives, even though it is irrelevant, once they stir up things, it all kicks in, and so ISIS appears,
or some other group, who hail they are restoring the true reign of God.

This ability to go from the mundane to justifiable murder is dangerous, because it means out
of a large population any psychopathic nutcase feels empowered, and if they do murder someone,
no problems, get off free of charge. So it is this behaviour and link that needs to be exposed
and challenged, how it is meaningless and socially destructive, and brings ruin to any group who
adopts it.

If you read the Koran and the Haddith, it is this call to arms, on any provocation, makes the faith
run with blood. And the victors enslave the conquered, no second thoughts.

I heard Erdwan starting to use language of superiority saying people cannot question him.
Just wait until he declares himself the next caliph. The whole mindset is this way, because obedience
without conscience or love is their ethic. It does not matter whether it is true or not, because in their
mind the Koran defines truth. If you ever read the Koran, 30% of it is gibberish, which could mean
almost anything. This is why it is hard to engage them in meaningful dialogue, because it is just
allegiance and opposition to anyone who questions the revelation.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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I do not understand why this issue is so difficult for Christians.Is it because we have become so PC? Is it that we ourselves have been brainwashed into acceptance?
They cant separate a belief from a group of people.

Islam = Muslims. If you call Islam evil you are saying all Muslims are evil.

They cant make the connection that beliefs arent people.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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whats the deal with all the Muslim women i see working at all these places? thought they werent allowed outside?
Look at nations ruled under Islamic law and not western nations.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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They cant separate a belief from a group of people.

Islam = Muslims. If you call Islam evil you are saying all Muslims are evil.

They cant make the connection that beliefs arent people.
That goes for both sides though. Most people who post "warnings against Islam" in this thread say that " Muslims are so and such"
 

Yeraza_Bats

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That goes for both sides though. Most people who post "warnings against Islam" in this thread say that " Muslims are so and such"
I havent seen a post here that said "muslims are ____". I have definitely seen posts that say "Islam commands ____", though. And those are the posts that most often get "now thats ridiculous, I know many friendly Muslims, and the Christians had the crusades/ inquisitions".
 

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I mean, even with Magentas posts, like the ones about higher Islamic populations. Having more people of this belief system means youll have more people practicing and enforcing it. And that will lead to more people enforcing the teachings of Muhammad.

And that is what people are worried about, and I dont believe that its an irrational fear. Muslims should absolutely be allowed to live where they want, but thats the importance of questioning the beliefs that make up Islam.
 

trofimus

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People cannot be so strictly separated from the ideology they chose and follow.

So when islam is evil, this evilness will be transformed to the minds and life of muslims, logically. It is not wise to think otherwise, imho.

Not to all in the same degree, of course. A fanatic will be more evil than a secularized muslim who is in islam just because of some kind of half-dead family tradition.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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People cannot be so strictly separated from the ideology they chose and follow.

So when islam is evil, this evilness will be transformed to the minds and life of muslims, logically. It is not wise to think otherwise, imho.
I dont think thats totally true, at least in terms of identity. I mean, look at the amount of people who call themselves Christians who practice fornication despite the clear warnings against it.

There will be Muslims who both dont want to hurt people, and even people who call themselves Muslims but dont even KNOW that Muhammad commanded war. Also, Muhammad commanded either war, or financial support for those who do. So its even possible that you could have Muslims who live peacefully and act peaceful, but are secretly giving money to those who fight.

Ive heard that CAIR has been caught doing this before, actually : p
 

trofimus

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I dont think thats totally true, at least in terms of identity. I mean, look at the amount of people who call themselves Christians who practice fornication despite the clear warnings against it.

There will be Muslims who both dont want to hurt people, and even people who call themselves Muslims but dont even KNOW that Muhammad commanded war. Also, Muhammad commanded either war, or financial support for those who do. So its even possible that you could have Muslims who live peacefully and act peaceful, but are secretly giving money to those who fight.

Ive heard that CAIR has been caught doing this before, actually : p
You responded faster than I could add the last part of my post:

"Not to all in the same degree, of course. A fanatic will be more evil than a secularized muslim who is in islam just because of some kind of half-dead family tradition."

:)

It is similar to Christianity. The more you are in it, the higher influence it has on your life. For a secularized Christian just a little, for an active Christian more...
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Also, Muhammad commanded either war, or financial support for those who do. So its even possible that you could have Muslims who live peacefully and act peaceful, but are secretly giving money to those who fight.

Ive heard that CAIR has been caught doing this before, actually : p
Wanted to give some verses that showed this for anyone who hasnt seen them before : p

Quran 61:10-12 "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of'Adn, that is indeed the great success."

Quran 9:88 "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Quran 9:41"Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."
 

trofimus

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Also, Muhammad commanded either war, or financial support for those who do. So its even possible that you could have Muslims who live peacefully and act peaceful, but are secretly giving money to those who fight.
Saudi Arabia is the nice example. Even though they seem to do nothing, they are the main sponsors of terrorism by funding the aggressive view of islam in mosques all over the world.