Jesus 3 days and three nights.

[prove-all]

Artaxerxes Longimanus in 457BC (Ezra 7:12-26)

There will be 7 weeks plus 62 weeks = 69 weeks.
That is 483 years (Num 14:34 and Ezek 4:6).
[the decree given in : 457BC + 483 years = 27AD]

Christ's formal, 3-1/2 year ministry began in 27AD culminating in His crucifixion in 31AD

in 31AD, the passover was on 25th April , a wednesday,
this is the only year close, we find passover on the 4th day week to match sign.

 

[MarcR]

Artaxerxes Longimanus in 457BC (Ezra 7:12-26)

There will be 7 weeks plus 62 weeks = 69 weeks.
That is 483 years (Num 14:34 and Ezek 4:6).
[the decree given in : 457BC + 483 years = 27AD]

Christ's formal, 3-1/2 year ministry began in 27AD culminating in His crucifixion in 31AD

in 31AD, the passover was on 25th April , a wednesday,
this is the only year close, we find passover on the 4th day week to match sign.

CYRENIUS

Quirinus held a census in Judaea after the banishment of Archelaus (Joseph. Ant. 18:1, 1), which took place B.C. 6. This is what is meant by the taxing ( in Acts 5:37.)
(from McClintock and Strong Encyclopedia, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

Since Mary was already pregnant with Jesus at the time Jesus could well have been born on the first day of Sukkot 6 B.C.

This would satisfy Luke 2:1-7
And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
KJV


Luke 2:52-3:3
52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
3 Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,
2 Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness.
3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;
KJV


Dan 9:24-26
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. KJV

3. Reign: In 13 A.D. (or according to Mommsen 11 A.D.) Tiberius was by a special law raised to the co-regency. Augustus died August 19, 14 A.D., and Tiberius succeeded. A mutiny in the Rhine legions was suppressed by Germanicus. The principal events of his reign (see also below) were the campaigns of Germanicus and Drusus, the withdrawal of the Romans to the Rhine, the settlement of the Armenian question, the rise and fall of Sejanus, the submission of Parthia. In 26 A.D., Tiberius retired to Capreae, where rumor attributed to him every excess of debauchery. On March 16, 37 A.D., Tiberius died at Misenum and was succeeded by Caius.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright © 1996, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

Luke 2:52-3:2
52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
3 Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,
2 Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness. KJV

If Tiberius' coregency began in the fall of 11 A.D (Julian); then the Hebrew Calendar year which subtended 25-26 A.D. would have been His 15th; thus satisfying Luke 3

In Jewish reckoning of time, the reign of kings is counted from Abib 1 and any part of a year counts as a year. Hence from Fall of 11 to Abib 1, 12 A.D. counts as the first year.
Tiberius' 15th year would have commenced Abib 1, 25 A.D.
If Jesus' ministry began between Abib 1, 25 A.D. and Abib 14, 25 A.D.; then
Abib 14, 27 A.D. would have been the third Passover of His ministry.

If Jesus was born on Sukkot 6 B.C., His 30th birthday would have been Sukkot 24 A.D.
This means that the time between Abib1 and Abib 14 of 25 A.D. would have been during His 30th year. satisfying Luke 3:23
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, KJV

from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off

69*7=483 27 A.D.-483= 456B.C. Command to build the Wall.

Ezra 7:6-17
6 This Ezra went up from Babylon; and he was a ready scribe in the law of Moses, which the Lord God of Israel had given: and the king granted him all his request, according to the hand of the Lord his God upon him.
7 And there went up some of the children of Israel, and of the priests, and the Levites, and the singers, and the porters, and the Nethinims, unto Jerusalem, in the seventh year of Artaxerxes the king.
8 And he came to Jerusalem in the fifth month, which was in the seventh year of the king.
9 For upon the first day of the first month began he to go up from Babylon, and on the first day of the fifth month came he to Jerusalem, according to the good hand of his God upon him.
10 For Ezra had prepared his heart to seek the law of the Lord, and to do it, and to teach in Israel statutes and judgments.
11 Now this is the copy of the letter that the king Artaxerxes gave unto Ezra the priest, the scribe, even a scribe of the words of the commandments of the Lord, and of his statutes to Israel.
12 Artaxerxes, king of kings, unto Ezra the priest, a scribe of the law of the God of heaven, perfect peace, and at such a time.
13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
14 Forasmuch as thou art sent of the king, and of his seven counsellors, to inquire concerning Judah and Jerusalem, according to the law of thy God which is in thine hand;
15 And to carry the silver and gold, which the king and his counsellors have freely offered unto the God of Israel, whose habitation is in Jerusalem,
16 And all the silver and gold that thou canst find in all the province of Babylon, with the freewill offering of the people, and of the priests, offering willingly for the house of their God which is in Jerusalem:
17 That thou mayest buy speedily with this money bullocks, rams, lambs, with their meat offerings and their drink offerings, and offer them upon the altar of the house of your God which is in Jerusalem.
KJV


8 And he came to Jerusalem in the fifth month, which was in the seventh year of the king.

ARTAXERXES
v, 14). It is almost unanimously agreed that the king here intended is Artaxerxes Longimainus (Ἀρταξέρξης)
, Bahr ad Ctes. p. 166,175]). See NEHEMIAH. As this prince began to reign B.C. 466, the restoration under Ezra will fall in B.C. 459, and the first under Nehemiah in B.C. 446.
(from McClintock and Strong Encyclopedia, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

Hence Ezra arrived in Jerusalem in 459 B.C. It is noteworthy that NOTHING in the king's letter speaks of building the wall. Hence nothing in Scripture precludes the command to build th wall from occurring in 456 B.C., three years later.

When Nehemiah arrived ten years later the work was in progress but bogged down.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

here are copies of two posts i made some time ago where having greatly underestimated the imperviousness of some doctrines to reason and scripture i attempted to put this nonsense to rest...



an increasingly popular claim today is the notion that jesus did not actually die on a friday...most commonly it is suggested that jesus died on a wednesday...others have suggested that jesus died on a thursday or even a tuesday...a few people have even argued that jesus did not rise from the dead on a sunday!

however this view is mistaken...as i will show in this thread...jesus -did- die on a friday and he -did- rise on a sunday and there is absolutely no alternative that does not contradict scripture...


to begin with...much of the confusion comes from misconceptions about the timing and duration of the passover or feast of unleavened bread... many are under the mistaken impression that passover and the feast of unleavened bread are two separate festivals...with the feast of unleavened bread beginning twenty-four hours after the passover seder...

but scripture indicates that this idea is incorrect...and shows that the terms 'passover' and 'feast of unleavened bread' are actually interchangeable names for the same seven day feast...

ezekiel 45:21..."In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, you shall have the Passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten."
luke 22:1..."Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is called the Passover, was approaching."

furthermore scripture shows that the passover seder marked the first day of the feast unleavened bread...

matthew 26:17..."Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and asked, 'Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?'"
mark 14:12..."On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was being sacrificed, His disciples *said to Him, 'Where do You want us to go and prepare for You to eat the Passover?'"
luke 22:7..."Then came the first day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed."

so the passover seder corresponded with the first day of the feast of unleavened bread...the feast of unleaved bread did -not- begin a day later as many people have assumed...

the feast of unleavened bread began on a fixed date in the hebrew calendar each year...specifically the fifteenth day of the month of abib...

leviticus 23:6..."Then on the fifteenth day of the same month there is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; for seven days you shall eat unleavened bread."
numbers 28:17..."On the fifteenth day of this month shall be a feast, unleavened bread shall be eaten for seven days."

so the passover and feast of unleavened bread went as follows...

abib 15...first day of the feast of unleavened bread...beginning with passover seder...sacred assembly held...
abib 16...second day of the feast of unleavened bread...
abib 17...third day of the feast...
abib 18...fourth day...
abib 19...fifth day...
abib 20...sixth day...
abib 21...seventh day of the feast of unleavened bread...sacred assembly held...

someone will probably object that scripture states that the passover seder was held on the evening of the -fourteenth- day...implying that it was the fourteenth day when the seder was held...with the feast of unleavened bread not beginning until one day later on the fifteenth day...

but this notion is based on another misconception...it turns out that when scripture speaks of the evening of a certain day...it is actually indicating the -end- of that day and the -beginning- of the next day... this convention is clear from the scripture on the day of atonement...

leviticus 23:27-32..."On exactly the tenth day of this seventh month is the day of atonement; it shall be a holy convocation for you, and you shall humble your souls and present an offering by fire to the Lord. You shall not do any work on this same day, for it is a day of atonement, to make atonement on your behalf before the Lord your God. If there is any person who will not humble himself on this same day, he shall be cut off from his people. As for any person who does any work on this same day, that person I will destroy from among his people. You shall do no work at all. It is to be a perpetual statute throughout your generations in all your dwelling places. It is to be a sabbath of complete rest to you, and you shall humble your souls; on the ninth of the month at evening, from evening until evening you shall keep your sabbath."

it is clear from this scripture that the evening of the ninth day was regarded as the -ending- of the ninth day and the -beginning- of the tenth day which was the day of atonement...with the ninth day not actually being part of the day of atonement...

so applying scripture's own convention to passover and the feast of unleavened bread...it is equally clear that the evening of the passover seder was the -end- of the fourteenth day of the month and the -beginning- of the fifteenth day of the month...the fourteenth day itself was not part of the passover observance or the feast of unleavened bread...


having established that...we can say that anything that took place in the daylight hours immediately following the night of the seder happened on what scripture would call the fifteenth day...

that is significant because jesus was crucified in the daylight hours immediately following the night of the seder he held with his disciples...that means jesus was crucified on the fifteenth day of the month...


someone may try to argue that jesus' last supper was not actually the passover seder...but that is disproved by mark 14:12...which i quoted above...it clearly shows that the passover lambs were killed on the evening of the same day jesus' disciples obtained the use of the upper room for his last supper...so there is no doubt that the last supper was a passover seder...


having established that jesus was crucified on the fifteenth day of the month of abib...we now look to the fact that the day following jesus' crucifixion was a sabbath...

mark 15:42..."When evening had already come, because it was the preparation day, that is, the day before the Sabbath,"
john 19:31..."Then the Jews, because it was the day of preparation, so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

the entire basis of all 'anti good friday' arguments is the notion that this sabbath could have been one of the days of assembly associated with the feast of unleavened bread...however we can now see that this is impossible...

given that jesus was crucified on the fifteenth day of abib...it is clear that the sabbath of the following day would have fallen on the sixteenth day of abib...however in the laws regarding the passover and feast of unleavened bread there is no provision for a sabbath on the sixteenth day of abib...but only on the fifteenth and twenty-first days of the month...

in fact it is apparent that the sabbatical assembly was actually held on the day of the crucifixion...which likely explains how the jews were so quickly assembled before pilate to observe the trial of jesus...they would have been assembling anyway...

this all means that this sabbath can -only- be the weekly saturday sabbath...and if the day after jesus' crucifixion was a saturday...then jesus was crucified on a friday...


having established that jesus was crucified on a friday...it is relatively easy to prove that jesus rose on a sunday...here are the relevant scriptures...

matthew 28:1..."Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave."
mark 16:2..."Very early on the first day of the week, they *came to the tomb when the sun had risen."
mark 16:9..."Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons."
luke 24:1..."But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared."
john 20:1..."Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene *came early to the tomb, while it *was still dark, and *saw the stone already taken away from the tomb."

the unanimous testimony of all four gospel writers is pretty much non debateable...jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week...a sunday...


so in conclusion i have proven from scripture that jesus could not have been crucified on any other day but a friday...and that he rose from the dead on a sunday...scripture simply does not allow any alternative such as a wednesday crucifixion...



the main motivation for denying that jesus was crucified on a friday and rose on a sunday seems to be a concern over the 'three days and three nights' that he spent in the tomb...however these objections are likewise based on a misconception...

it is deeply ironic that those who are the most emphatic about the need for a proper understanding of hebraic conventions are the ones insisting on imposing modern timekeeping conventions on the biblical text...

nowhere does scripture state that jesus spent seventy-two hours in the tomb...this is merely an -assumption- based on a totally anachronistic understanding of the phrase 'three days and three nights'

the reality is that the hebrews simply did not reckon days the way we do nowdays...they counted partial days as days in their own right...

i will now prove this from scripture...namely the story of cornelius in acts 10...the passage is lengthy so i will only quote the verses involving the passage of time...

acts 10:3..."About the ninth hour of the day he clearly saw in a vision an angel of God who had just come in and said to him, 'Cornelius!'"
acts 10:9..."On the next day, as they were on their way and approaching the city, Peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hour to pray."
acts 10:23-24..."So he invited them in and gave them lodging. And on the next day he got up and went away with them, and some of the brethren from Joppa accompanied him. On the following day he entered Caesarea. Now Cornelius was waiting for them and had called together his relatives and close friends."
acts 10:30..."Cornelius said, “Four days ago to this hour, I was praying in my house during the ninth hour; and behold, a man stood before me in shining garments,"

a total of seventy-two hours has elapsed between cornelius' vision in acts 10:3 and the arrival of peter and the servants in acts 10:30... from cornelius' vision at the ninth hour until about three hours after peter's vision at the sixth hour would have been the first twenty-four hours...from then until the ninth hour on the day of peter's departure from joppa would have been another twenty-four hours...and from then until the ninth hour of the day of peter's arrival in caesarea...the time of his meeting with cornelius...is another twenty-four hours...for a total of seventy-two hours...

yet this seventy-two hour period is called -four- days! clearly partial days are being counted as days in their own right...the remaining fifteen hours of the day of cornelius' vision is counted as the first day...the entire twenty-four hours of the day of peter's vision is the second day...the entire twenty-four hours of the day of peter's departure from joppa is the third day...and the first nine hours of the day of peter's arrival in caesarea and his meeting with cornelius is counted as the fourth day...


this proves beyond a doubt that partial days were numbered as days in their own right... in fact seventy-two hours is the -maximum- possible period that could be counted as three days...and it was possible for 'three days' to refer to something as short as a period only marginally longer than twenty-four hours!


so under scripture's own convention...the time jesus spent in the tomb from friday to sunday would have been regarded as three days...the remaining one or two hours of friday would have been counted as the first day...the entire twenty-four hours of saturday are the second day...and roughly the first ten or so hours of sunday would have been counted as the third day...

so there is no contradiction between a good friday to easter sunday period in the tomb and the 'sign of jonah' of three days in the tomb...-if- we let scripture set its own timekeeping conventions instead of trying to force our modern timekeeping conventions on scripture...

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

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This doesn't make sense because you're making the sabbath of the 15th to be the day of preparation. A day of rest can't be a day of prep.

here are copies of two posts i made some time ago where having greatly underestimated the imperviousness of some doctrines to reason and scripture i attempted to put this nonsense to rest...



an increasingly popular claim today is the notion that jesus did not actually die on a friday...most commonly it is suggested that jesus died on a wednesday...others have suggested that jesus died on a thursday or even a tuesday...a few people have even argued that jesus did not rise from the dead on a sunday!

however this view is mistaken...as i will show in this thread...jesus -did- die on a friday and he -did- rise on a sunday and there is absolutely no alternative that does not contradict scripture...


to begin with...much of the confusion comes from misconceptions about the timing and duration of the passover or feast of unleavened bread... many are under the mistaken impression that passover and the feast of unleavened bread are two separate festivals...with the feast of unleavened bread beginning twenty-four hours after the passover seder...

but scripture indicates that this idea is incorrect...and shows that the terms 'passover' and 'feast of unleavened bread' are actually interchangeable names for the same seven day feast...

ezekiel 45:21..."In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, you shall have the Passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten."
luke 22:1..."Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is called the Passover, was approaching."

furthermore scripture shows that the passover seder marked the first day of the feast unleavened bread...

matthew 26:17..."Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and asked, 'Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?'"
mark 14:12..."On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was being sacrificed, His disciples *said to Him, 'Where do You want us to go and prepare for You to eat the Passover?'"
luke 22:7..."Then came the first day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed."

so the passover seder corresponded with the first day of the feast of unleavened bread...the feast of unleaved bread did -not- begin a day later as many people have assumed...

the feast of unleavened bread began on a fixed date in the hebrew calendar each year...specifically the fifteenth day of the month of abib...

leviticus 23:6..."Then on the fifteenth day of the same month there is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; for seven days you shall eat unleavened bread."
numbers 28:17..."On the fifteenth day of this month shall be a feast, unleavened bread shall be eaten for seven days."

so the passover and feast of unleavened bread went as follows...

abib 15...first day of the feast of unleavened bread...beginning with passover seder...sacred assembly held...
abib 16...second day of the feast of unleavened bread...
abib 17...third day of the feast...
abib 18...fourth day...
abib 19...fifth day...
abib 20...sixth day...
abib 21...seventh day of the feast of unleavened bread...sacred assembly held...

someone will probably object that scripture states that the passover seder was held on the evening of the -fourteenth- day...implying that it was the fourteenth day when the seder was held...with the feast of unleavened bread not beginning until one day later on the fifteenth day...

but this notion is based on another misconception...it turns out that when scripture speaks of the evening of a certain day...it is actually indicating the -end- of that day and the -beginning- of the next day... this convention is clear from the scripture on the day of atonement...

leviticus 23:27-32..."On exactly the tenth day of this seventh month is the day of atonement; it shall be a holy convocation for you, and you shall humble your souls and present an offering by fire to the Lord. You shall not do any work on this same day, for it is a day of atonement, to make atonement on your behalf before the Lord your God. If there is any person who will not humble himself on this same day, he shall be cut off from his people. As for any person who does any work on this same day, that person I will destroy from among his people. You shall do no work at all. It is to be a perpetual statute throughout your generations in all your dwelling places. It is to be a sabbath of complete rest to you, and you shall humble your souls; on the ninth of the month at evening, from evening until evening you shall keep your sabbath."

it is clear from this scripture that the evening of the ninth day was regarded as the -ending- of the ninth day and the -beginning- of the tenth day which was the day of atonement...with the ninth day not actually being part of the day of atonement...

so applying scripture's own convention to passover and the feast of unleavened bread...it is equally clear that the evening of the passover seder was the -end- of the fourteenth day of the month and the -beginning- of the fifteenth day of the month...the fourteenth day itself was not part of the passover observance or the feast of unleavened bread...


having established that...we can say that anything that took place in the daylight hours immediately following the night of the seder happened on what scripture would call the fifteenth day...

that is significant because jesus was crucified in the daylight hours immediately following the night of the seder he held with his disciples...that means jesus was crucified on the fifteenth day of the month...


someone may try to argue that jesus' last supper was not actually the passover seder...but that is disproved by mark 14:12...which i quoted above...it clearly shows that the passover lambs were killed on the evening of the same day jesus' disciples obtained the use of the upper room for his last supper...so there is no doubt that the last supper was a passover seder...


having established that jesus was crucified on the fifteenth day of the month of abib...we now look to the fact that the day following jesus' crucifixion was a sabbath...

mark 15:42..."When evening had already come, because it was the preparation day, that is, the day before the Sabbath,"
john 19:31..."Then the Jews, because it was the day of preparation, so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

the entire basis of all 'anti good friday' arguments is the notion that this sabbath could have been one of the days of assembly associated with the feast of unleavened bread...however we can now see that this is impossible...

given that jesus was crucified on the fifteenth day of abib...it is clear that the sabbath of the following day would have fallen on the sixteenth day of abib...however in the laws regarding the passover and feast of unleavened bread there is no provision for a sabbath on the sixteenth day of abib...but only on the fifteenth and twenty-first days of the month...

in fact it is apparent that the sabbatical assembly was actually held on the day of the crucifixion...which likely explains how the jews were so quickly assembled before pilate to observe the trial of jesus...they would have been assembling anyway...

this all means that this sabbath can -only- be the weekly saturday sabbath...and if the day after jesus' crucifixion was a saturday...then jesus was crucified on a friday...


having established that jesus was crucified on a friday...it is relatively easy to prove that jesus rose on a sunday...here are the relevant scriptures...

matthew 28:1..."Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave."
mark 16:2..."Very early on the first day of the week, they *came to the tomb when the sun had risen."
mark 16:9..."Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons."
luke 24:1..."But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared."
john 20:1..."Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene *came early to the tomb, while it *was still dark, and *saw the stone already taken away from the tomb."

the unanimous testimony of all four gospel writers is pretty much non debateable...jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week...a sunday...


so in conclusion i have proven from scripture that jesus could not have been crucified on any other day but a friday...and that he rose from the dead on a sunday...scripture simply does not allow any alternative such as a wednesday crucifixion...



the main motivation for denying that jesus was crucified on a friday and rose on a sunday seems to be a concern over the 'three days and three nights' that he spent in the tomb...however these objections are likewise based on a misconception...

it is deeply ironic that those who are the most emphatic about the need for a proper understanding of hebraic conventions are the ones insisting on imposing modern timekeeping conventions on the biblical text...

nowhere does scripture state that jesus spent seventy-two hours in the tomb...this is merely an -assumption- based on a totally anachronistic understanding of the phrase 'three days and three nights'

the reality is that the hebrews simply did not reckon days the way we do nowdays...they counted partial days as days in their own right...

i will now prove this from scripture...namely the story of cornelius in acts 10...the passage is lengthy so i will only quote the verses involving the passage of time...

acts 10:3..."About the ninth hour of the day he clearly saw in a vision an angel of God who had just come in and said to him, 'Cornelius!'"
acts 10:9..."On the next day, as they were on their way and approaching the city, Peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hour to pray."
acts 10:23-24..."So he invited them in and gave them lodging. And on the next day he got up and went away with them, and some of the brethren from Joppa accompanied him. On the following day he entered Caesarea. Now Cornelius was waiting for them and had called together his relatives and close friends."
acts 10:30..."Cornelius said, “Four days ago to this hour, I was praying in my house during the ninth hour; and behold, a man stood before me in shining garments,"

a total of seventy-two hours has elapsed between cornelius' vision in acts 10:3 and the arrival of peter and the servants in acts 10:30... from cornelius' vision at the ninth hour until about three hours after peter's vision at the sixth hour would have been the first twenty-four hours...from then until the ninth hour on the day of peter's departure from joppa would have been another twenty-four hours...and from then until the ninth hour of the day of peter's arrival in caesarea...the time of his meeting with cornelius...is another twenty-four hours...for a total of seventy-two hours...

yet this seventy-two hour period is called -four- days! clearly partial days are being counted as days in their own right...the remaining fifteen hours of the day of cornelius' vision is counted as the first day...the entire twenty-four hours of the day of peter's vision is the second day...the entire twenty-four hours of the day of peter's departure from joppa is the third day...and the first nine hours of the day of peter's arrival in caesarea and his meeting with cornelius is counted as the fourth day...


this proves beyond a doubt that partial days were numbered as days in their own right... in fact seventy-two hours is the -maximum- possible period that could be counted as three days...and it was possible for 'three days' to refer to something as short as a period only marginally longer than twenty-four hours!


so under scripture's own convention...the time jesus spent in the tomb from friday to sunday would have been regarded as three days...the remaining one or two hours of friday would have been counted as the first day...the entire twenty-four hours of saturday are the second day...and roughly the first ten or so hours of sunday would have been counted as the third day...

so there is no contradiction between a good friday to easter sunday period in the tomb and the 'sign of jonah' of three days in the tomb...-if- we let scripture set its own timekeeping conventions instead of trying to force our modern timekeeping conventions on scripture...

 

[rstrats]

Does anyone have examples from the first century or before where a daytime or a night time was forecast to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred?

 

[tourist]

Does anyone have examples from the first century or before where a daytime or a night time was forecast to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred?

This might have something to do with Daylight Savings Time.

 

[rstrats]

tourist,
re: "This might have something to do with Daylight Savings Time."
　
How would that account for anything?

 

[so-jesus-e-deus]

You make a valid point, but it isstill an interesting topic to discuss.

I agree with you. After all, there is many things on the Holy Scripture that need to be clarified. I, personally, believe that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, He finished of being buried in the first second of Thursday and rise in the first second of Sunday.

 

[rstrats]

Since it's crucifixion week, someone new looking in may know of examples.

 

[BeyondET]

Thursday rolls to Friday at 6pm last supper in the evening.
12am Friday night (1 night and 1 day) caught in the teeth of the whale aka the siege by the high priest.
3pm Friday still part of the 1 day crucifix.
6pm Friday (aka beginning of Saturday) 2 day and 2 night to 6am
6am to 6pm end of Saturday rolls to Sunday 3 day and 3 night.

 

[BeyondET]

Key to know 72 hours time line doesn't work can't work especially if one starts at the time of crucifix 9th hour 3pm

Pick one below doesn't work.

9th hour 3pm Wednesday would mean a 9th hour 3pm Saturday risen = 72 hours.
9th hour 3pm Thursday would mean a 9th hour 3pm Sunday risen = 72 hours.
9th hour 3pm Friday would mean a 9th hour 3pm Monday risen = 72 hours.

the 72 hour time Frame can't be exactly 72 hours no where in scripture speaks of a 9th hour 3pm resurrection.

 

[Adstar]

To make it very simple,

Matt 12:40
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
KJV

Friday night - Saturday = 1 night and 1day

Saturday night - Sunday = 2 nights and 2 days

There is NO THIRD NIGHT so a FRIDAY crucifixion DOES NOT FULLY SATISFY SCRIPTURE.

END OF CASE!!

Yes..... Those who support the friday crucifiction declare Jesus to be a liar.. Jesus said He would spend 3 Days and Nights in the earth and those who believe Jesus.. Believe Jesus on the matter..

 

[Johnny_B]

The argument that there had to be 3 literal days and nights in the grave can not fit this clear revelation. however it does fit Jewish reckoning. Jesus died on the Friday around 3 in the evening, this means that whole day is included from sunset Thur to sunset Fri, Then he was in the grave from sometime just before sunset Fri to some time between sunset sat and sunrise sun, which means Saturday and Sunday are included. I wont bother proving that from scripture you can study it. But stop trying to make it fit our modern western way of thinking.

The feast prove beyond a doubt connected with the Gospels that Jesus dies on Fir and rose the next Sun early.
Blessings.

Your clear revelation is clouded. Are you saying Jesus is a liar? Matthew 12:40 "For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

Why do you think the grave means the Tomb? Isaiah 53:9 "And they made his grave with the wickedand with a rich man in his death, although he had done no violence,and there was no deceit in his mouth."

He made His grave with the wicked, He wasn't buried with the wicked, He was with a rich man in His death, which has to be the Tomb. Matthew 27:57-60 "When it was evening, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who also was a disciple of Jesus.58 He went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate ordered it to be given to him.59 And Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean linen shroud60 and laid it in his own new tomb,"

This proves that He was in the heart of the earth for three days, quit trying to make grave His Tomb. This is clear Scripture. Luke 24:12-14, 19-21 "But Peter rose and ran to the tomb; stooping and looking in, he saw the linen cloths by themselves; and he went home marveling at what had happened. That very day two of them were going to a village named Emmaus, about seven miles from Jerusalem, 14 and they were talking with each other about all these things that had happened. 19-21 "And he said to them, “What things?” And they said to him, “Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, a man who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, 20 and how our chief priests and rulers delivered him up to be condemned to death, and crucified him. 21 But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel. Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things happened."

When did they take Jesus to Pilate? John 18:28 "Then they led Jesus from Caiaphas to the Praetorium, and it was early morning. But they themselves did not go into the Praetorium, lest they should be defiled, but that they might eat the Passover."

Jesus was taken to Pilate to be, mocked, beaten, bruised, chastised, wounded, whipped. Everything that Isaiah said in chapter 53:4-12 would happen to Him for our sin, it's not only His death, it includes everything that happened after He was delivered to Pilate and as you can see He was delivered to Pilate early morning or around 6am, so with Him raising before the sun was fully raised, it was around 6am as well. With the day of preparation being a high holy day or the annual sabbath as apossed to the weekly sabbath. That would place the Him before Pilate to suffer the things Isaiah said He would suffer and His crucifixion on Thursday.

He was with the wicked in His judgment for our transgressions or "made His grave with the wicked (Isaiah 53:9)". Twice Isaiah says He's afflicted verse 4 & 7, Jesus said the sign would be the sign of Jonah in the belly of the great fish for three days and three nights, now look at what Jonah said about his experience in the fish. Jonah 2:1-2 "Then Jonah prayed to the Lord his God from the fish’s belly. 2 And he said: “I cried out to the Lord because of my affliction,"

With the disciples on the road to Emma's saying, "now it is been third day since this has happened", since what happened, "delivered him up to be condemned to death, and crucified him or to be afflicted. That puts His affliction/grave/heart of the earth, Him being condemned to death and crucified, starting at around 6am when He was taken to Pilate, "they made His grave with wicked", on Thursday, He was in a rich man's Tomb or "with the rich in death (Isaiah 53:9)". He rose again around 6am, making it three full days and nights, that Jesus was in the heart of the earth or "grave with the wicked" and "in death with the rich".

Sorry brother, Scripture out trumps revelation every time, because you search the Scripture and you'll find Jesus in them and all of His wonderful works and the ones yet to be done, Bless God, for His prophecy being fulfilled for a witness to His power. Last, but not lest we have to turn to Paul, I Corinthians 15:2-3 "For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures,4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,"

If Jesus wouldn't of been in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights, then He would be a false prophet, which would mean He was not God Almighty.

Isaiah 46:8-9 "remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other;I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginningand from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,and I will accomplish all my purpose,"

 

[Johnny_B]

Artaxerxes Longimanus in 457BC (Ezra 7:12-26)

There will be 7 weeks plus 62 weeks = 69 weeks.
That is 483 years (Num 14:34 and Ezek 4:6).
[the decree given in : 457BC + 483 years = 27AD]

Christ's formal, 3-1/2 year ministry began in 27AD culminating in His crucifixion in 31AD

in 31AD, the passover was on 25th April , a wednesday,
this is the only year close, we find passover on the 4th day week to match sign.

This lines up with my post of a Thursday, making His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death. Passover Wednesday night, handed over to be condemned to death and crucified, Thursday morning around 6am, starting Him being in the heart of the earth, for three days and three nights, because He rose on Sunday morning around 6am. To complete the full three days and there nights. As Jesus said, as the two disciples on the road to Emma's said and as Paul said.

 

[BeyondET]

A lot happened after the last supper in the night leading up to bringing Jeus to Pilate then Pilate sent Him to Herod then back to Pilate the second time, Pilate again gathered the priest and elders whole crowd, between 6am the verdict to the 9am crucifix.

Jh18:1 When he had finished praying, Jesus left with his disciples and crossed the Kidron Valley. On the other side there was an olive grove, and he and his disciples went into it.

Jh18:2 Now Judas, who betrayed him, knew the place, because Jesus had often met there with his disciples.
Jh18:3 So Judas came to the grove, guiding a detachment of soldiers and some officials from the chief priests and Pharisees. They were carrying torches, lanterns and weapons.
Jh18:4 Jesus, knowing all that was going to happen to him, went out and asked them, "Who is it you want?"
Jh18:5 "Jesus of Nazareth," they replied. "I am he," Jesus said. (And Judas the traitor was standing there with them.)
Jh18:6 When Jesus said, "I am he,"( then Judas) they drew back and fell to the ground.
Jh18:7 Again he asked them, "Who is it you want?" And they said, "Jesus of Nazareth."
Jh18:8 "I told you that I am he," Jesus answered. "If you are looking for me, then let these men go."
Mk14:48 "Am I leading a rebellion," said Jesus, "that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me?
Lk22:53 Every day I was with you in the temple courts, and you did not lay a hand on me. But this is your hour when darkness reigns."
Lk22:47 While he was still speaking a crowd came up, and the man who was called Judas, one of the Twelve, was leading them. He approached Jesus to kiss him,
Lk22:48 but Jesus asked him, "Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?"
Mk14:44 Now the betrayer had arranged a signal with them: "The one I kiss is the man; arrest him and lead him away under guard."
Mk14:45 Going at once to Jesus, Judas said, "Rabbi!" and kissed him.
Mt26:50 Jesus replied, "Friend, do what you came for, Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him.
Mk14:51 A young man, wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus. When they seized him,
Mk14:52 he fled naked, leaving his garment behind.

Lk22:49 When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?"

Mt26:52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to (them)him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
Lk22:52 Then Jesus said to the chief priests, the officers of the temple guard, and the elders, who had come for him, "Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come with swords and clubs?
Mk14:49 Every day I was with you, teaching in the temple courts, and you did not arrest me. But the Scriptures must be fulfilled."
Jh18:10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest's servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant's name was Malchus.)
Lk22:51 But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him.
Jh18:9 This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: "I have not lost one of those you gave me."
Jh18:11 Jesus commanded Peter, "Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?"
Mt26:53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?
Mt26:54 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?"
Mk14:50 Then everyone deserted him and fled.

Jh18:12 Then the detachment of soldiers with its commander and the Jewish officials arrested Jesus. They bound him
Jh18:13 and brought him first to Annas, who was the father-in-law of Caiaphas, the high priest that year.
Jh18:15 Simon Peter and another disciple were following Jesus. Because this disciple was known to the high priest, he went with Jesus into the high priest's courtyard,

Lk22:54 Then seizing him, they led him away and took him into the house of the high priest. Peter followed at a distance.
Jh18:16 but Peter had to wait outside at the door. The other disciple, who was known to the high priest, came back, spoke to the girl on duty there and brought Peter in.

Jh18:18 It was cold, and the servants and officials stood around a fire they had made to keep warm. Peter also was standing with them, warming himself.
Lk22:56 A servant girl saw him, seated there in the firelight she looked closely at him and said, "This man was with him."
Jh18:26 One of the high priest's servants, a relative of the man whose ear Peter had cut off, challenged him, "Didn't I see you with him in the olive grove?"
Lk22:60 Peter replied, "Man, I don't know what you're talking about!" Just as he was speaking, the rooster crowed.

Jh18:19 Meanwhile, the high priest questioned Jesus about his disciples and his teaching.
Jh18:20 "I have spoken openly to the world," Jesus replied. "I always taught in synagogues or at the temple, where all the Jews come together. I said nothing in secret.
Jh18:21 Why question me? Ask those who heard me. Surely they know what I said."
Jh18:22 When Jesus said this, one of the officials nearby struck him in the face. "Is this the way you answer the (chief) high priest?" he demanded.
Jh18:23 "If I said something wrong," Jesus replied, "testify as to what is wrong. But if I spoke the truth, why did you strike me?"
Jh18:24 Then Annas sent him, still bound, to Caiaphas the high priest.
Jh18:14 Caiaphas was the one who had advised the Jews that it would be good if one man died for the people.

Mk14:53 They took Jesus to the high priest, and all the chief priests, elders and teachers of the law came together.
Mk14:54 Peter followed him at a distance, right into the courtyard of the high priest. There he sat with the guards and warmed himself at the fire.
Mk14:66 While Peter was below in the courtyard, one of the servant girls of the high priest came by.
Mk14:67 When she saw Peter warming himself, she looked closely at him. "You also were with that Nazarene, Jesus," she said.
Lk22:59 About an hour later another asserted, "Certainly this fellow was with him, for he is a Galilean."
Mt26:71 Then he went out to the gateway, where another girl saw him and said to the people there, "This fellow was with Jesus of Nazareth."
Mt26:72 He denied it again, with an oath: "I don't know the man!"
Mt26:73 After a little while, those standing there went up to Peter and said, "Surely you are one of them, for your accent gives you away."
Mk14:69 When the servant girl saw him there, she said again to those standing around, "This fellow is one of them."
Mk14:71 He began to call down curses on himself, and he swore to them, "I don't know this man you're talking about."
Mk14:70 Again he denied it. After a little while, those standing near said to Peter, "Surely you are one of them, for you are a Galilean."
Mk14:72 Immediately the rooster crowed the second time. Then Peter remembered the word Jesus had spoken to him: "Before the rooster crows twice you will disown me three times." And he broke down and wept.

Mt26:59 The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death.
Mt26:60 But they did not find any, though many false witnesses came forward. Finally two came forward
Mt26:61 and declared, "This fellow said, `I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.'"
Mk14:56 Many testified falsely against him, but their statements did not agree.
Mk14:57 Then some stood up and gave this false testimony against him:
Mk14:58 "We heard him say, `I will destroy this man-made temple and in three days will build another, not made by man.'"
Mk14:59 Yet even then their testimony did not agree.
Mt26:62 Then the high priest stood up and said to Jesus, "Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?"
Mt26:63 But Jesus remained silent. The high priest said to him, "I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God."
Lk22:67 "If you are the Christ, they said, "tell us." Jesus answered, "If I tell you, you will not believe me,
Lk22:68 and if I asked you, you would not answer.
Lk22:69 But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God."
Lk22:70 They all asked, "Are you then the Son of God?" He replied, "You are right in saying I am."
Mt26:64 "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."
Lk22:71 Then they said, "Why do we need any more testimony? We have heard it from his own lips."
Mk14:63 The high priest tore his clothes. "Why do we need any more witnesses?" he asked.
Mk14:64 "You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" They all condemned him as worthy of death.

 

[BeyondET]

Interesting the statement of that the cock did crow is mentioned in all four gospels Mark, Luke, John, Matthew..

But in the gospel of Luke, is the only gospel that mentions Jesus statement of it happening

Luke 22:34
Jesus answered, "I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me.

Now either Mark John and Matthew forgot to add that statement or the gospel of Luke was first and the other three came after because Mark John and Matthew cannot make such a statement without knowing the source of it.

 

[Johnny_B]

Artaxerxes Longimanus in 457BC (Ezra 7:12-26)

There will be 7 weeks plus 62 weeks = 69 weeks.
That is 483 years (Num 14:34 and Ezek 4:6).
[the decree given in : 457BC + 483 years = 27AD]

Christ's formal, 3-1/2 year ministry began in 27AD culminating in His crucifixion in 31AD

in 31AD, the passover was on 25th April , a wednesday,
this is the only year close, we find passover on the 4th day week to match sign.

[FONT=.SF NS Text]Luke 19:41-44 “Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For days will come upon you when your They missed enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, 44 and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”[/FONT]

The time of your visitation, is 483 years since the command or 173,880 days, because prophetic years are 360 days, not 365.25. Messiah the Prince, riding in on the donkey colt of peace (Zachariah 9:9-10). "the things that make for your peaces!" They missed with two prophecies, Daniel 9:25 and Zachariah 9:9

 

[BeyondET]

[FONT=.SF NS Text]Luke 19:41-44 “Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For days will come upon you when your They missed enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, 44 and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”[/FONT]

The time of your visitation, is 483 years since the command or 173,880 days, because prophetic years are 360 days, not 365.25. Messiah the Prince, riding in on the donkey colt of peace (Zachariah 9:9-10). "the things that make for your peaces!" They missed with two prophecies, Daniel 9:25 and Zachariah 9:9

IMO He rode the donkey and her young colt followed.

Matthew 21:2
saying to them, "Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find a donkey tied there, with her colt by her. Untie them and bring them to me.

 

[sparkman]

Here are two good videos by Rob and Caleb regarding the timing between the crucifixion and the resurrection. The first link covers the timing by an author who describes the different views that explain the difference between the Synoptic gospels and the gospel of John. He researched this issue in depth, and his views address some of the misconceptions that anti-holiday people have. The second link covers the "three days and three nights issue". I appreciate the videos by Rob and Caleb as they are Messianic in their outlook but they are radical, anti-holiday people.

Anyways here are the links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ss3nYhcS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z47PsAOV7bw

I thought they were excellent and address some issues that the anti-holiday people fail to understand.

I don't have an issue with anti-holiday people, though, if they want to observe Passover instead, as long as they don't claim others are in sin for non-observance. Some will go so far as to say that if you don't hold the "three day, three night" view, that you are not saved as you aren't acknowledging the only sign Jesus gave of his Messiahship. Herbert Armstrong, the founder of the cult I was part of, made that claim. I know Jesus is Messiah, and my faith in that doesn't rely on a specific time interval between the crucifixion and resurrection.