Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.
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While the Bible tells us that there will be a Rapture which kicks the trib. period into action, We must remember details of the rapture;......in the twinkling of an eye the dead in Christ shall rise up and be met in the air with those living in Christ and together they shall...
That appears to be the end of the rapture event.
Where is the logic of Christ appearing for the time of a ....twinkling of an eye?
While this is a glorious and divine event, I am not convinced that it can be interpreted as the 2nd advent of Christ as some see it.
More clearly the 2nd advent of Christ is illustrated later in the trib. period ........with His armies......... to fight the battle of Armageddon and put satan in chains.
Comments are invited.
That appears to be the end of the rapture event.
Where is the logic of Christ appearing for the time of a ....twinkling of an eye?
While this is a glorious and divine event, I am not convinced that it can be interpreted as the 2nd advent of Christ as some see it.
More clearly the 2nd advent of Christ is illustrated later in the trib. period ........with His armies......... to fight the battle of Armageddon and put satan in chains.
Comments are invited.
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No it isn't
....and that word " before"
Just will not help your position at all.
But hey keep trying.
Some bible, somewhere must have it omitted.
But till then, maybe just cut it out of your bible.
Oh but then you have heathen watching and being ready ?( you know the context EVERY postribber leaves out)
Vs 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Who and what needs to be ready and watching????
The one with the mark of the beast in bed with a saved believer?
Or does the believer in bed with a satanist watch and be ready to stay in bed????
How silly postrib doctrine is.
One taken/left.
Play it out.
Play out that postrib rapture position.
One left is a believer?
How ridiculous.
You have a believer in bed with a Satanist. You have the Satanist taken out of the bed and the believer still in bed. The believer wake up and see if the Satanist is gone. But gee ,the rapture is over and the believer slept through it.
Straight out of the postrib rapture workbook.
( under the section " Jesus tells satanists to be ready")
....and that word " before"
Just will not help your position at all.
But hey keep trying.
Some bible, somewhere must have it omitted.
But till then, maybe just cut it out of your bible.
Oh but then you have heathen watching and being ready ?( you know the context EVERY postribber leaves out)
Vs 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Who and what needs to be ready and watching????
The one with the mark of the beast in bed with a saved believer?
Or does the believer in bed with a satanist watch and be ready to stay in bed????
How silly postrib doctrine is.
One taken/left.
Play it out.
Play out that postrib rapture position.
One left is a believer?
How ridiculous.
You have a believer in bed with a Satanist. You have the Satanist taken out of the bed and the believer still in bed. The believer wake up and see if the Satanist is gone. But gee ,the rapture is over and the believer slept through it.
Straight out of the postrib rapture workbook.
( under the section " Jesus tells satanists to be ready")
Just pretend this
Rev 14
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Is actually this
Rev 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Or just ignore both of them.
In the postrib workbook it is under " make the rapture into the white horses"
A very short chapter. If fact one sentence long.
"Magically make it happen via ignore any verses to the contrary."
Rev 14
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Is actually this
Rev 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Or just ignore both of them.
In the postrib workbook it is under " make the rapture into the white horses"
A very short chapter. If fact one sentence long.
"Magically make it happen via ignore any verses to the contrary."
For those that struggle with the word " rapture"
We see the same with the word "passion".
From wiki;
"""In Christianity, the Passion (from the Latin verb patior, passus sum; "to suffer, bear, endure", from which also "patience, patient", etc.) is the short final period in the life of Jesus Christ."""
We see the same with the word "passion".
From wiki;
"""In Christianity, the Passion (from the Latin verb patior, passus sum; "to suffer, bear, endure", from which also "patience, patient", etc.) is the short final period in the life of Jesus Christ."""
Lot was removed because of Abraham. Had Abraham not interceded, Lot would have died like the others. There's so many things surrounding that you are blatantly ignoring to keep a lie it's laughable.
1. Abraham intercede
2. Lot is told don't look back and (if) he did look back and disobeyed, no way does he live
So, make it up as you go, You can only convince yourself of the lies you are twisting Scripture to become.
1. Abraham intercede
2. Lot is told don't look back and (if) he did look back and disobeyed, no way does he live
So, make it up as you go, You can only convince yourself of the lies you are twisting Scripture to become.
Where does the Bible tell us a secret Coming kicks off Tribulation?
If I ever read what you said, I would believe. But since those words are nowhere but created by a Heretic 200 years ago...you do realize this pre-trib Doctrine is only 200 years old...meaning, Jesus did not teach it, the Apostles did not teach it, the Church Fathers did not teach it, but a Woman in Scotland had a Dream and John Darby made that Dream into a False Doctrine?
You think a 200 year old Doctrine is legit and Biblical?
If I ever read what you said, I would believe. But since those words are nowhere but created by a Heretic 200 years ago...you do realize this pre-trib Doctrine is only 200 years old...meaning, Jesus did not teach it, the Apostles did not teach it, the Church Fathers did not teach it, but a Woman in Scotland had a Dream and John Darby made that Dream into a False Doctrine?
You think a 200 year old Doctrine is legit and Biblical?
It is a Good Position because they are Christ's Words.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Actually,
Rev 14
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
is
Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 14
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
is
Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Pre-Tribbers,
you do realize this pre-trib Doctrine is only 200 years old...meaning, Jesus did not teach it, the Apostles did not teach it, the Church Fathers did not teach it, but a Woman in Scotland had a Dream and John Darby made that Dream into a False Doctrine?
I am not slamming women here, but your Doctrine is based off of a DREAM
Not off the Word of God
Hilarious
you do realize this pre-trib Doctrine is only 200 years old...meaning, Jesus did not teach it, the Apostles did not teach it, the Church Fathers did not teach it, but a Woman in Scotland had a Dream and John Darby made that Dream into a False Doctrine?
I am not slamming women here, but your Doctrine is based off of a DREAM
Not off the Word of God
Hilarious
Pre-Tribbers,
you do realize this pre-trib Doctrine is only 200 years old...meaning, Jesus did not teach it, the Apostles did not teach it, the Church Fathers did not teach it, but a Woman in Scotland had a Dream and John Darby made that Dream into a False Doctrine?
I am not slamming women here, but your Doctrine is based off of a DREAM
Not off the Word of God
Hilarious
you do realize this pre-trib Doctrine is only 200 years old...meaning, Jesus did not teach it, the Apostles did not teach it, the Church Fathers did not teach it, but a Woman in Scotland had a Dream and John Darby made that Dream into a False Doctrine?
I am not slamming women here, but your Doctrine is based off of a DREAM
Not off the Word of God
Hilarious
Old Men shall have Dreams and Young men visions...oh wait, someone forgot to ADD Woman having a DREAM of the pre-trib rapture that became a Doctrine
Where does the Bible tell us a secret Coming kicks off Tribulation?
If I ever read what you said, I would believe. But since those words are nowhere but created by a Heretic 200 years ago...you do realize this pre-trib Doctrine is only 200 years old...meaning, Jesus did not teach it, the Apostles did not teach it, the Church Fathers did not teach it, but a Woman in Scotland had a Dream and John Darby made that Dream into a False Doctrine?
You think a 200 year old Doctrine is legit and Biblical?
If I ever read what you said, I would believe. But since those words are nowhere but created by a Heretic 200 years ago...you do realize this pre-trib Doctrine is only 200 years old...meaning, Jesus did not teach it, the Apostles did not teach it, the Church Fathers did not teach it, but a Woman in Scotland had a Dream and John Darby made that Dream into a False Doctrine?
You think a 200 year old Doctrine is legit and Biblical?
KJV 1611 edition...study it. I could care less about other writings.