Yes, at the Second Advent, as 2 Thess 2:1 clearly says.
Uh, no. 2 Thess 2:1 says the "gathering to Him" is WITH the Second Advent.
Yes, the Bible is extremely solid.
LOL.
btw, I have Henry Morris' commentary on Revelation, entitled "Revelation Record". He's very thorough, quite the scholar, and believes in a pretrib rapture.
However, as I was reviewing some of it today, he made a point that actually proves a post trib rapture and receiving immortal bodies!!
So I'd like to share this information with you. And whoever else reads this thread.
On page 203 at the bottom, he quotes Rev 11:12, concerning the Two Witnesses.
"Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on."
This is his commentary on v.12:
"But not only did the viewers see the spirits of the prophets return from God into their bodies. They also head a thunderous voice roar from heaven, speaking to the risen saints. Having finally died, (he believes the 2W are Enoch and Elijah, with good reason), Christ's
two witnesses are now alive forevermore, like He is. Their service on earth is done, and they now can return to His presence."
The bolded phrase is the key. Morris sees their rising from the dead to be their resurrection where they receive their new immortal bodies. However, that would mean that Jesus would have had to keep those 2 in heaven while taking all the rest of the dead saints to a pretrib rapture.
But the pretrib rapture theory has ALL the dead believers in heaven coming with Jesus to receive their new resurrection bodies, all before the Trib.
Do you believe that the 2 W were kept back from the rest of the heavenly saints when they went to get their new bodies?
Now, if they did accompany all the dead saints to meet the living saints in the clouds before the trib, that would mean they already HAVE their new bodies BEFORE their ministry even begins. And that means they CANNOT DIE every again.
So, please explain how the beast who ascends from the bottomless pit would be able to kill a resurrection body.
You have 2 choices here. Either the 2W received their resurrection bodies pretrib, which means they CANNOT die again, or they get their new bodies, just the two of them, between the pretrib rapture theory, or when all the martyred trib saints get theirs at the end of the Trib, per Rev 20:4.