Jesus is the Only begotten Son of God, read this and decide

[Magenta]

you should probably read the scripture magenta. im hoping at some point you mey let the grudge you have against me go lol it truly affects me in no way at all, its more something you need to look at letting go of.

You ought to stop slandering people Jason, it really does not suit anyone who wants to follow Jesus. If there is a grudge you bear it, you keep bringing it up so it is something you have created and then try to pin on me because you are dishonest, I get it, you refuse to take responsibility for your own stuff, I see it with you all the time in all your posts where you talk about other people you are really talking about yourself, I have pointed this out to you a number of times before, is that why you hate me and make things up to try to discredit me? You need to look at that Jason.

You have a habit of trying to chase people off if they disagree with you, and perhaps slandering them and lying about them is one of the ways you try to do that. But the problem is, Jason, that we are exhorted in Scripture, by the very people you pretend to believe, to confront error. The types of error you peddle are pretty big, for instance, denying core Christian doctrines.

Now you are denying that Scripture explicitly states that only God is immortal? But you want to pretend that it is I who needs to read more. So typical of you. Your lack of understanding is something you seem to revel in.

 

[Magenta]

" you must not....or you will surely die" <<< that is the commandment to keep thier life, thier acceptance of this is where death comaes from, it did not exist until satan deceived them, he took that commandment and created death because God said " if you do his, you will certainly die"

God knows the end from the beginning, and Jesus was purposed from before the creation of the world for us to find our life in Him, through being born again spiritually via faith in the shedding of His righteous blood as an atoning sacrifice, for He paid the sin debt of the world.

Adam and Eve were of the flesh, and did not choose Him, but self. They chose to follow self will over God's will, and all of Scripture testifies to the fact that though God desires all to come to the knowledge of Truth (Who is God Himself), He has no intention of bringing those opposed to Him, through their pride of life and lusts of the flesh, into the world to come.

Those opposed to God will be destroyed, as is testified to in the Scriptures over and over and over again. Only those who accept God's plan pass from death into life ever after. All else have their names blotted out of the Lamb's book of life, and pass into the second death.

It seems fairly rudimentary to me but maybe it is too simple for you to grasp that life and death are in the hands of Jesus and not Satan. Everything was created by Him and for Him. You say Satan deceived them but Satan did not deceive them, for only Eve was deceived, meaning Adam deliberately disobeyed.

Life is a gift. Adam forfeited it. God was not surprised. He knew it was going to happen. Satan did not create anything, not even death. That your theology is skewed is evident when you say such things. God is glorified through the plan of salvation that He worked out from the beginning.

From the first Adam to Jesus Christ, Who is the last Adam, God planned a glorious way to redeem a people for Himself through the promise of a Savior who would conquer both sin and death. A people who choose to follow Him, knowing, accepting, and loving Him for Who He is and what He has done for us, the blessings He has bestowed upon us, and the life we have because we are in Him Who is the very light and life of men.

I pray you come to the knowledge of Truth, Jason. There is no life outside of Christ. He is the only way to attain to life ever after. If you do not believe He is Who He said He was, you will die in your sins. He said so! That is why I engage you Jason, not for the reason you have made up in your head and tried to pin on me. I want you to embrace Jesus Christ for Who He truly is so that you do not die in your sins.

The first man Adam became a living being”;
the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

 

[followjesus]

You ought to stop slandering people Jason, it really does not suit anyone who wants to follow Jesus. If there is a grudge you bear it, you keep bringing it up so it is something you have created and then try to pin on me because you are dishonest, I get it, you refuse to take responsibility for your own stuff, I see it with you all the time in all your posts where you talk about other people you are really talking about yourself, I have pointed this out to you a number of times before, is that why you hate me and make things up to try to discredit me? You need to look at that Jason.

You have a habit of trying to chase people off if they disagree with you, and perhaps slandering them and lying about them is one of the ways you try to do that. But the problem is, Jason, that we are exhorted in Scripture, by the very people you pretend to believe, to confront error. The types of error you peddle are pretty big, for instance, denying core Christian doctrines.

Now you are denying that Scripture explicitly states that only God is immortal? But you want to pretend that it is I who needs to read more. So typical of you. Your lack of understanding is something you seem to revel in.

ughh......like usual you live in your own little realm. im just gonna once again add you to my ignose list. take care

 

[mailmandan]

I pray you come to the knowledge of Truth, Jason. There is no life outside of Christ. He is the only way to attain to life ever after. If you do not believe He is Who He said He was, you will die in your sins. He said so! That is why I engage you Jason, not for the reason you have made up in your head and tried to pin on me. I want you to embrace Jesus Christ for Who He truly is so that you do not die in your sins.

Amen Magenta! Jesus said in John 8:24 - "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."According to Jesus, it's very critical that we have a particular belief in Him, and if we don't then we are lost in our sins.

We need to have an accurate belief in Jesus, not just any kind of belief in Jesus in order for Jesus Christ to truly be our Savior. We cannot strip Christ of His Deity and have a "different" Jesus who is not part of the Godhead and expect to be saved.

Several of us have invested much time and energy to present the truth of Scripture to Jason, yet he consistently dismisses an abundance of irrefutable Scriptural proofs regarding the Deity of Jesus, that He is in fact God, manifest in the flesh (John 1:1, 14). The real problem is, he has already formulated his theology, and any Scripture presented to him is interpreted in such a way as to accommodate that theology. It's called eisegesis. He has "doctrinal blinders" on, and sees only what he wants to see."

 

[Zmouth]

naw i wouldnt agree that sydy of nature would teach us anything equal to Gods Word, mortality came because man disobeyed God, all things come because God spoke it.

Maybe I should have written the following with more specificity but didn't mean to imply studying nature was a better than using the scriptures... (IMO principles are the truth of God.)

There is a passage in the scriptures which says, "Does not nature itself teach you.."; so using the seen and know universe is just as valid as using the scriptures to determine the truth of God.

Sorry bout that.

when God said " do not eat the fruit or you will surely die" then that guarantees that when they ate, deth would come to man. Satan Knew that Gods word is the Only true Law of nature.

Which translation do you use wherein it is written "do not eat the fruit"? From my perspective that would drastically alter the message being conveyed.

16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 2:16-17

What God says...simply is and will be just as He has spoken it. so How do you kill a man when God says " IF you do this you will surely die?

You have a point there , yet it is written that "in the day" thou thou eatest thereof thou shall surely die.

In John 11:9 a curious question is raised, "Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day?"

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:2-4

Did man die in the day that he ate from the tree in the midst of the garden?

I

satans focus becomes " if i can Get them to eat that particular fruit, they will die. so he deceives them tells them " surely you will not die, God Knows it will make you like him......satan brought death to mankind through changing thier mind with a lie and a deception, death did not exist until they did what God said would bring death to them. " the wages of sin is death"

[FONT=&quot]n Genesis 3:5 it is written that the serpent said unto the 'woman' the following:[/FONT] "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

And in Gen 3:22 it is written, "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil"

I guess I missed the point of the lesson since Elohim (Gods), or LORD God (being the Spirit of Light and Word of Light joined together) who became one after men began to multiply upon the face of the earth (Genesis 4:1) that it is written that the LORD said (Genesis 6:3) that his spirit shall not always strive with man for that man was also flesh.

 

[CS1]

this is not to create an argument, nor to belittle your personal belief its a long post mostly all scripture please consider the message of the Only begotten Son of God, it is life eternal...May God bless you in the name of His oNly begotten Son.

2 corinthians 13:1 "This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established".


The witness of God the Father


1 John 5: 9-12 "If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life."


Jesus baptism.


matthew 3:16-17 "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Jesus transfigured


mark 9:2-7 " There He was transfigured before them.And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him. ( Notice 3 witnesses of this on earth, peter James and john. and 3 witnesses in Heaven God, elijah and moses. ) then remember this


peters confirmation of Gods voice speaking this.
2 peter 1:17-18 "For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount


the witness of the Son of God


mark 14:61-62 "But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven"


John 10:36 "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"


John 3:35 "The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand."




the witness of the holy spirit, according to paul


romans 1:1-4 "Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead"


the witness of the spirit according to John


1 john 5:5-6 "Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth." see the witness in us (1 john 5:9-12)


the witness of the apostles


Peters witness and Jesus it is blessed and comes from God.


matthew 16:16-17 "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven


the entire purpose of Johns Gospel


john 20:31 "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name."


Pauls witness to who He preached as Jesus


2 corinthians 1:19 "For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea.


the witnes of Hebrews


Hebrews 1:2-4 "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they."


1 peter 1:3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead"


the witness 2 more disciples


martha


john 11:27 "She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.


The ethiopien at His baptism


acts 8:37 "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."


the Son of God is worshipped.
matthew 14:33 "Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.




is there any question who Jesus is? there shouldnt be we can find scattered scripture and make the argument " Jesus is God" or " christ is God" its strange that all these biblical witnesses stick with very plain and straight forward words" Jesus is the Christ and Son of the Living God" and that the phrases " Jesus is God" or the Christ is God" do not appear anywhere in the Bible. and further that there is no verse saying " Unless someone believes the Jesus is God, they are wrong"


try not to make this a belief and rewuirement for anyone even if your own belief is that Jesus is God, because that Belief is not what is written for Christians to believe and confess. and in a way, its borderline denying that God has a Son. yet " the confession Jesus is the Son of God is approved and required belief that offers eternal Life. think it over. God has a Son His name Is Jesus. <<< tell people about Gods Only begotten, thats who God is telling us about.


The Life offered from the One true God, who is the Father of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, is found built upon accepting that God has an only begotten Son, that He sent into the World, to save us. there is no argument to this fact. sure "doubting thomas" says when He touches Jesus " My Lord and My God" and sure, the prohet says " He will be CALLED the mighty God, and eternal Father. thats just true some do call Him God, and the name of the Father still today passes to thier son.


the only truth of who is Jesus....is very plain and consistant for salvation and all the blessing of God, to believe in the name of Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son.

anyway denying the deity of Christ that Jesus is not God is not appropriate or biblical

 

[Denadii]

I am not stubborn and I am not blind - please point out the verse that shows that they DID ACTUALLY EAT of the tree of Life.
An invitation is just that, an invitation - it cannot be used as proof of acceptance!

Stop being lazy! Do your own digging!

 

[bluto]

ughh......like usual you live in your own little realm. im just gonna once again add you to my ignose list. take care

Well notfollowingjesus whistling in the dark and hoping the dark will go away no matter how many people you put on ignore still will not make the dark go away. How about you "man up" and deal with the issues head on instead of hiding behind lame excuses? Your in the big leagues now and not messing around with little kids where you have take your toys out of the sandbox and go home.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

 

[miknik5]

Stop being lazy! Do your own digging!

And you must do the same thing

 

[Denadii]

Well notfollowingjesus whistling in the dark and hoping the dark will go away no matter how many people you put on ignore still will not make the dark go away. How about you "man up" and deal with the issues head on instead of hiding behind lame excuses? Your in the big leagues now and not messing around with little kids where you have take your toys out of the sandbox and go home.



IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

ROFL Bluto!!!!!!!!!! You're big leagues?! I never would have known

 

[Denadii]

And you must do the same thing

And you son.....For some reason I can't seem to put you on 'Ignore' so I'm just ignoring you. My daddy always told me. "You cannot win an argument with and ignorant man" So consider yourself ignored...It applies to men or women of course.

 

[miknik5]

And you son.....For some reason I can't seem to put you on 'Ignore' so I'm just ignoring you. My daddy always told me. "You cannot win an argument with and ignorant man" So consider yourself ignored...It applies to men or women of course.

Then you should have just ignored me

no need to announce it

 

[graceNpeace]

Stop being lazy! Do your own digging!

I will restate this again: there is no Scriptural proof that Adam and his wife ever ate from the tree of Life!

 

[Magenta]

I will restate this again: there is no Scriptural proof that Adam and his wife ever ate from the tree of Life!

It seems obvious they did not, because God said if that they did, they would live forever, and they did not live forever, did they? That is precisely why the tree of life was blocked to them after they sinned: so they could not live forever!

 

[graceNpeace]

It seems obvious they did not, because God said if that they did, they would live forever, and they did not live forever, did they? That is precisely why the tree of life was blocked to them after they sinned: so they could not live forever!

That, is indeed the best evidence, and it is very obvious...

 

[Denadii]

I will restate this again: there is no Scriptural proof that Adam and his wife ever ate from the tree of Life!

I will restate this again: Stop being lazy! Do your own digging!

 

[Denadii]

It seems obvious they did not, because God said if that they did, they would live forever, and they did not live forever, did they? That is precisely why the tree of life was blocked to them after they sinned: so they could not live forever!

Here you are right. After they sinned, and were put out of the garden they did not eat of the tree of life. But in the garden they did eat of it. Until they sinned they were immortal

 

[graceNpeace]

Here you are right. After they sinned, and were put out of the garden they did not eat of the tree of life. But in the garden they did eat of it. Until they sinned they were immortal

Until they sinned they were immortal, yes.
That fact is not proof that they did eat of the tree of Life.

 

[miknik5]

Here you are right. After they sinned, and were put out of the garden they did not eat of the tree of life. But in the garden they did eat of it. Until they sinned they were immortal

They were created
They had a beginning
and their end was always in the hands of their CREATOR

 

[graceNpeace]

I will restate this again: Stop being lazy! Do your own digging!

Like reading 1st Imaginations!!!??!