Joyce Meyer -- False Teacher
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Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Matt 5:8
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God
Col 1
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come,
your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Matt 6:9-10
My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done.
Matt 26:42
If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.
James 4:15
And God permitting, we will do so.
Heb 6:3
We are to seek the will of God in everything we do.
You have confirmed you are a WOF believer, you hold that your words have creative power, life and death.
To have this you must have become a god, for no mortal holds this power.
As a god you do not care about Gods will, you believe by your words, your confession you release health and wealth already given to you and the authority to literally create it into being.
Now listing what JM says is great, because you do not understand you are just confirming the principles of JM and her theology. Let me make this plain, it is heresy.
Repentance is grovelling in the dust, admitting the lake of fire is where we should go, it is putting on sackcloth and ashes, because by this very act we declare we accept our life is over.
By just suggesting this is wrong, you are rebelling against the judgement of God himself, His will for all those who sin against Him and His creation. Yes in Jesus we are a new creation, but only when you walk in it.
So in your attempt to say I am a christian, Joyce is ok, you are just confirming you are a WOF believer.
Now that is fine, but it is not following Jesus. It is a different gospel, root and branch.
It is more hidden and confused, but I am here to shine a light so everything becomes clear.
In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Matt 5:16
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
John 3:19
Being positive is meaningless, I can say negative things in a positive way, or positive things in a negative way, it is just a way to lie, distort and change the gospel. No longer is sin sin, it is just condemnation, so you must ignore it and imagine it does not exist. It is just too negative to admit failure or judgement.
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Rom 6:23
Matt 5:8
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God
Col 1
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come,
your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Matt 6:9-10
My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done.
Matt 26:42
If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.
James 4:15
And God permitting, we will do so.
Heb 6:3
We are to seek the will of God in everything we do.
You have confirmed you are a WOF believer, you hold that your words have creative power, life and death.
To have this you must have become a god, for no mortal holds this power.
As a god you do not care about Gods will, you believe by your words, your confession you release health and wealth already given to you and the authority to literally create it into being.
Now listing what JM says is great, because you do not understand you are just confirming the principles of JM and her theology. Let me make this plain, it is heresy.
Repentance is grovelling in the dust, admitting the lake of fire is where we should go, it is putting on sackcloth and ashes, because by this very act we declare we accept our life is over.
By just suggesting this is wrong, you are rebelling against the judgement of God himself, His will for all those who sin against Him and His creation. Yes in Jesus we are a new creation, but only when you walk in it.
So in your attempt to say I am a christian, Joyce is ok, you are just confirming you are a WOF believer.
Now that is fine, but it is not following Jesus. It is a different gospel, root and branch.
It is more hidden and confused, but I am here to shine a light so everything becomes clear.
In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Matt 5:16
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
John 3:19
Being positive is meaningless, I can say negative things in a positive way, or positive things in a negative way, it is just a way to lie, distort and change the gospel. No longer is sin sin, it is just condemnation, so you must ignore it and imagine it does not exist. It is just too negative to admit failure or judgement.
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Rom 6:23
Dear reader,
I am not a god, I am not eternal, I am not transformed into a perfect being who knows everything and never fails.
Saying by becoming a christian I become these things, which I just need to claim by speaking out loud its reality is just insane, wishfull thinking, an afront to the Lord on high.
By putting these things into action you are putting yourself under the authority of the enemy.
Everything is given by Gods active will in the current situation. We do not have a blank cheque, or is His will obvious, you need to seek it out.
The fact this becomes a point of anger, disgust to you, indicates the kingdom you have walked into.
Jesus himself bent His will to the Father. We are to acknowledge the Lords ways are higher and different to our own, which we need to humbly learn and be prepared to walk in.
As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:9
I am not a god, I am not eternal, I am not transformed into a perfect being who knows everything and never fails.
Saying by becoming a christian I become these things, which I just need to claim by speaking out loud its reality is just insane, wishfull thinking, an afront to the Lord on high.
By putting these things into action you are putting yourself under the authority of the enemy.
Everything is given by Gods active will in the current situation. We do not have a blank cheque, or is His will obvious, you need to seek it out.
The fact this becomes a point of anger, disgust to you, indicates the kingdom you have walked into.
Jesus himself bent His will to the Father. We are to acknowledge the Lords ways are higher and different to our own, which we need to humbly learn and be prepared to walk in.
As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:9
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Matthew 6:24
…23"But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light that is in you is darkness, how great is the darkness! 24"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
Right! Personally, this makes no sense to me. I mean, I totally understand the theological arguments behind women being pastors/priests. I'm not personally offended if a woman is a pastor, I think that's between her, God, and her denomination. However, I have no problems with people who take a conservative view of it ecclesiastically speaking.
It's the cases like the one you mentioned re: John Piper that I find somewhat hypocritical. As a teacher, the only distinction between me standing up to give a lecture about a particular subject and me writing about that subject is the typical differences the mediums present. You connect with a live audience quite differently than with a reading audience. Otherwise, teaching is still taking place. It seems that if a man is willing to engage with teaching from a woman within a book, there would be no qualms of conscience regarding a live setting.
It all seems to smack of pride to me...and a kind of defacto belittling of women. After all, women are created in the image of God and have the same ability as men to build a relationship with God and to gain spiritual insight based on this relationship. The idea that this insight would only be beneficial to women and children seems a rather narrow assumption.
It's the cases like the one you mentioned re: John Piper that I find somewhat hypocritical. As a teacher, the only distinction between me standing up to give a lecture about a particular subject and me writing about that subject is the typical differences the mediums present. You connect with a live audience quite differently than with a reading audience. Otherwise, teaching is still taking place. It seems that if a man is willing to engage with teaching from a woman within a book, there would be no qualms of conscience regarding a live setting.
It all seems to smack of pride to me...and a kind of defacto belittling of women. After all, women are created in the image of God and have the same ability as men to build a relationship with God and to gain spiritual insight based on this relationship. The idea that this insight would only be beneficial to women and children seems a rather narrow assumption.
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[h=1]Matthew 6 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)[/h] 6 1 Alms. 5 Prayer. 14 Forgiving our brother. 16 Fasting. 19 Our treasure. 20 We must succor the poor. 24 God and riches. 25 Careful seeking for meat and drink, and apparel, forbidden. 33 The kingdom of God and his righteousness.
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Take heed that ye give not your [SUP][a][/SUP]alms before men to be seen of them, or else ye shall have no [SUP][b][/SUP]reward of your Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Therefore when thou givest thine alms, thou shalt not make a trumpet to be blown before thee, as the [SUP][c][/SUP]hypocrites do in the Synagogues and in the streets, to be praised of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]But when thou doest thine alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth,
[SUP]4 [/SUP]That thine alms may be in secret, and thy Father that seeth in secret, he will reward thee openly.
[SUP]5 [/SUP][SUP][d][/SUP]And when thou prayest, be not as the hypocrites: for they love to stand and pray in the Synagogues, and in the corners of the streets, because they would be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But when thou prayest, enter into thy chamber: and when thou hast shut thy door, pray unto thy Father which is in secret, and thy Father which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Also when ye pray, use no [SUP][e][/SUP]vain repetitions as the Heathen: for they think to be heard for their much babbling.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Be ye not like them therefore: for your Father knoweth whereof ye have need, before ye ask of him.
[SUP]9 [/SUP][SUP][f][/SUP]After this manner therefore pray ye, Our father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done even in earth as it is in heaven.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Give us this day our [SUP][g][/SUP]daily bread.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And forgive us our debts, as we also forgive our debtors.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from [SUP][h][/SUP]evil: for thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory for ever. Amen.
[SUP]14 [/SUP][SUP][i][/SUP]For if ye do forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But if ye do not forgive men their trespasses, no more will your father forgive you your trespasses.
[SUP]16 [/SUP][SUP][j][/SUP]Moreover, when ye fast, look not sour as the hypocrites: for they [SUP][k][/SUP]disfigure their faces, that they might seem unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you that they have their reward.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face,
[SUP]18 [/SUP]That thou seem not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret, will reward thee openly.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]¶ [SUP][l][/SUP]Lay not up treasures for yourselves upon the earth, where the moth and canker corrupt, and where thieves dig through and steal.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But lay up treasures for yourselves in heaven, where neither the moth nor canker corrupteth, and where thieves neither dig through nor steal.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]¶ [SUP][m][/SUP]The light of the body is the eye: if then thine [SUP][n][/SUP]eye be single, thy whole body shall be light.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But if thine eye be wicked, then all thy body shall be dark. Wherefore if the light that is in thee, be darkness, how great is that darkness?
[SUP]24 [/SUP][SUP][o][/SUP]No man can serve [SUP][p][/SUP]two masters: for either he shall hate the one, and love the other, or else he shall lean to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and [SUP][q][/SUP]riches.
[SUP]25 [/SUP][SUP][r][/SUP]Therefore I say unto you, be not careful for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink: nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more worth than meat? and the body than raiment?
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Behold the fowls of the [SUP][s][/SUP]heaven: for they sow not, neither reap, nor carry into the barns, yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Which of you by [SUP][t][/SUP]taking care is able to add one cubit unto his stature?
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And why care ye for raiment? Learn how the Lilies of the field do grow: they [SUP][u][/SUP]are not wearied, neither spin:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Yet I say unto you, that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Wherefore if God so clothe the grass of the field which is today, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, shall he not do much more unto you, O ye of little faith?
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or what shall we drink? or wherewith shall we be clothed?
[SUP]32 [/SUP](For after all these things seek the Gentiles) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness, and all these things shall be ministered unto you.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Care not then for the morrow, for the morrow shall care for itself: the day hath enough with his own grief.
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Take heed that ye give not your [SUP][a][/SUP]alms before men to be seen of them, or else ye shall have no [SUP][b][/SUP]reward of your Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Therefore when thou givest thine alms, thou shalt not make a trumpet to be blown before thee, as the [SUP][c][/SUP]hypocrites do in the Synagogues and in the streets, to be praised of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]But when thou doest thine alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth,
[SUP]4 [/SUP]That thine alms may be in secret, and thy Father that seeth in secret, he will reward thee openly.
[SUP]5 [/SUP][SUP][d][/SUP]And when thou prayest, be not as the hypocrites: for they love to stand and pray in the Synagogues, and in the corners of the streets, because they would be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But when thou prayest, enter into thy chamber: and when thou hast shut thy door, pray unto thy Father which is in secret, and thy Father which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Also when ye pray, use no [SUP][e][/SUP]vain repetitions as the Heathen: for they think to be heard for their much babbling.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Be ye not like them therefore: for your Father knoweth whereof ye have need, before ye ask of him.
[SUP]9 [/SUP][SUP][f][/SUP]After this manner therefore pray ye, Our father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done even in earth as it is in heaven.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Give us this day our [SUP][g][/SUP]daily bread.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And forgive us our debts, as we also forgive our debtors.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from [SUP][h][/SUP]evil: for thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory for ever. Amen.
[SUP]14 [/SUP][SUP][i][/SUP]For if ye do forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But if ye do not forgive men their trespasses, no more will your father forgive you your trespasses.
[SUP]16 [/SUP][SUP][j][/SUP]Moreover, when ye fast, look not sour as the hypocrites: for they [SUP][k][/SUP]disfigure their faces, that they might seem unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you that they have their reward.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face,
[SUP]18 [/SUP]That thou seem not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret, will reward thee openly.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]¶ [SUP][l][/SUP]Lay not up treasures for yourselves upon the earth, where the moth and canker corrupt, and where thieves dig through and steal.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But lay up treasures for yourselves in heaven, where neither the moth nor canker corrupteth, and where thieves neither dig through nor steal.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]¶ [SUP][m][/SUP]The light of the body is the eye: if then thine [SUP][n][/SUP]eye be single, thy whole body shall be light.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But if thine eye be wicked, then all thy body shall be dark. Wherefore if the light that is in thee, be darkness, how great is that darkness?
[SUP]24 [/SUP][SUP][o][/SUP]No man can serve [SUP][p][/SUP]two masters: for either he shall hate the one, and love the other, or else he shall lean to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and [SUP][q][/SUP]riches.
[SUP]25 [/SUP][SUP][r][/SUP]Therefore I say unto you, be not careful for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink: nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more worth than meat? and the body than raiment?
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Behold the fowls of the [SUP][s][/SUP]heaven: for they sow not, neither reap, nor carry into the barns, yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Which of you by [SUP][t][/SUP]taking care is able to add one cubit unto his stature?
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And why care ye for raiment? Learn how the Lilies of the field do grow: they [SUP][u][/SUP]are not wearied, neither spin:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Yet I say unto you, that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Wherefore if God so clothe the grass of the field which is today, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, shall he not do much more unto you, O ye of little faith?
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or what shall we drink? or wherewith shall we be clothed?
[SUP]32 [/SUP](For after all these things seek the Gentiles) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness, and all these things shall be ministered unto you.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Care not then for the morrow, for the morrow shall care for itself: the day hath enough with his own grief.
Here's the way I see it.
Luk_11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
The heavenly meaning of the verses below is that the woman (the church) should learn from her husband (Christ) at home (not publicly). The whole point is that Christ is our teacher who will lead us into all truth... not preachers.
The earthly meaning of the verses is straight forward, women should learn from their husbands at home. Why? Because God said so... God wants his will done in earth just as it is in heaven. It's not that men are any better or more spiritual than women, but God is teaching a spiritual lesson through an earthly shadow.
1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Luk_11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
The heavenly meaning of the verses below is that the woman (the church) should learn from her husband (Christ) at home (not publicly). The whole point is that Christ is our teacher who will lead us into all truth... not preachers.
The earthly meaning of the verses is straight forward, women should learn from their husbands at home. Why? Because God said so... God wants his will done in earth just as it is in heaven. It's not that men are any better or more spiritual than women, but God is teaching a spiritual lesson through an earthly shadow.
1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.