Kindness. Are you willing to share your experience of using Matthew 7:12 ?

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so would forgiving another person be a act of kindness to please God or to Please yourself or both?

Part of John 5:30

for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

Romans 15:

26 For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the Lord's people in Jerusalem.
27 They were pleased to do it, and indeed they owe it to them. For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.

Romans 12:8

if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.

Galatians 1:10

Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Romans 15:2

Each of us should please our neighbors for their good, to build them up.

Galatians 6:8

Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

Matthew 23:5

"Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long

Matthew 6:2

"Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.

Hebrews 13:16

Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.
 
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To some people it may appear that I should have started this thread a long time ago. To show some of my judgement, God works in ways which we can't fully understand and He uses people to deliver special messages to other people, so I judge that's why He stopped me from starting this thread long ago.

Do you think it's right to use Matthew 7:12 to judge how to sound your voice and which words to use to other people every time you speak to them including in internet forums, also thinking about what condition they may be in ?

To show some of my judgement, if someone appears to be timid, we should be careful not to say anything to frighten them away.

I judge that's enough to start the thread.
1Co 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
1Co 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
1Co 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
1Co 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
1Co 9:23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
 
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1Co 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
1Co 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
1Co 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
1Co 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
1Co 9:23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Romans 15:1

We who are strong ought to bear with the failings of the weak and not to please ourselves.

1 Corinthians 13:10

but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.

Part of 1 Peter 4:11

If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God.

James 3:2

We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

Matthew 21:28

"What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, 'Son, go and work today in the vineyard.'

1 John 4:1

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

A translation of Philippians 2:4

not looking to your own advantage only but each of you to the advantage of the others

Leviticus 19:18

"'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

Hebrews 13:16

Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.
 
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To some people it may appear that I should have started this thread a long time ago. To show some of my judgement, God works in ways which we can't fully understand and He uses people to deliver special messages to other people, so I judge that's why He stopped me from starting this thread long ago.

Do you think it's right to use Matthew 7:12 to judge how to sound your voice and which words to use to other people every time you speak to them including in internet forums, also thinking about what condition they may be in ?

To show some of my judgement, if someone appears to be timid, we should be careful not to say anything to frighten them away.

I judge that's enough to start the thread.
You know when I was learning the ways of the Lord I stumbled on how Paul says to the Jew I become as a Jew to win more Jews. That isn't the exact words, but at first I was always thinking and wondering why he did that why not just tell people bluntly how to behave. However, as I continued in the word I now understand exactly why and how to do it. It takes truly having a love for mankind and understanding that man may feel ashamed if we are bluntly speaking to people how to walk with Christ properly.
 
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You know when I was learning the ways of the Lord I stumbled on how Paul says to the Jew I become as a Jew to win more Jews. That isn't the exact words, but at first I was always thinking and wondering why he did that why not just tell people bluntly how to behave. However, as I continued in the word I now understand exactly why and how to do it. It takes truly having a love for mankind and understanding that man may feel ashamed if we are bluntly speaking to people how to walk with Christ properly.
What may you think after comparing what you may look at below ?

1 John 4:1

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Part of Matthew 5:44

love your enemies

Hebrews 13:16

And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

2 Corinthians 4:2

Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God.

Ephesians 5:11

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Ephesians 5:11

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

Ephesians 5:11 GNB

Have nothing to do with the worthless things that people do, things that belong to the darkness. Instead, bring them out to the light.

Mark 7:

1 Now when the Pharisees and some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem gathered around him,
2 they noticed that some of his disciples were eating with defiled hands, that is, without washing them.

Mark 7:5

So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, "Why don't your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?"

Matthew 12:

10 and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to bring charges against Jesus, they asked him, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?"
11 He said to them, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out?
12 How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."

1 Corinthians 10:33

even as I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.

1 John 4:1

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

You may compare that above with what you may look at below.

For the KJV onlyists or anyone else who's interested, what may you think after comparing of what you may look at below ?

Matthew 21:28

"What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, 'Son, go and work today in the vineyard.'

1 Corinthianwwwwwwws 10:33 KJV

Equally as I please all men in all things, not looking for my own benefit, but the profit of many, that they may be rescueddddd.

James 3:2

We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

1 Peter 4:11 KJV

If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God.

Part of Ephesians 3:10

His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known

Galatians 1:10

Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Romans 15:2

Each of us should please our neighbors for their good, to build them up.

NIV 1984 and 2011 Bible (Text)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.











Hebrews 13:16

And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.
 
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What may you think after comparing what you may look at below ?

1 John 4:1

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Part of Matthew 5:44

love your enemies

Hebrews 13:16

And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

2 Corinthians 4:2

Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God.

Ephesians 5:11

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Ephesians 5:11

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

Ephesians 5:11 GNB

Have nothing to do with the worthless things that people do, things that belong to the darkness. Instead, bring them out to the light.

Mark 7:

1 Now when the Pharisees and some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem gathered around him,
2 they noticed that some of his disciples were eating with defiled hands, that is, without washing them.

Mark 7:5

So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, "Why don't your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?"

Matthew 12:

10 and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to bring charges against Jesus, they asked him, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?"
11 He said to them, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out?
12 How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."

1 Corinthians 10:33

even as I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.

1 John 4:1

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

You may compare that above with what you may look at below.

For the KJV onlyists or anyone else who's interested, what may you think after comparing of what you may look at below ?

Matthew 21:28

"What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, 'Son, go and work today in the vineyard.'

1 Corinthianwwwwwwws 10:33 KJV

Equally as I please all men in all things, not looking for my own benefit, but the profit of many, that they may be rescueddddd.

James 3:2

We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

1 Peter 4:11 KJV

If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God.

Part of Ephesians 3:10

His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known

Galatians 1:10

Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Romans 15:2

Each of us should please our neighbors for their good, to build them up.

NIV 1984 and 2011 Bible (Text)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.











Hebrews 13:16

And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.
What I was talking about how Paul became like others to win more isn't supposed to be taken literal nor do I walk in darkness when I do so.
 
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What I was talking about how Paul became like others to win more isn't supposed to be taken literal nor do I walk in darkness when I do so.
My post which started this thread was right and my answers to you have not been foolish.
 
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My post which started this thread was right and my answers to you have not been foolish.
Alright cool sorry about that. I just have so many on here tell me over and over that I don't walk in the truth on here. My apologies.
 
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Alright cool sorry about that. I just have so many on here tell me over and over that I don't walk in the truth on here. My apologies.
I say thanks in a considerate way. I have similar experience to yours, to show some of my judgement, working for peace how God wants me to work for peace is right and working to get pleasure from arrogantly fighting is wrong and I'm not working to please myself only.
 
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I say thanks in a considerate way. I have similar experience to yours, to show some of my judgement, working for peace how God wants me to work for peace is right and working to get pleasure from arrogantly fighting is wrong and I'm not working to please myself only.
Yes you are correct. And for what it is worth when I misread your post it wasn't like I was secretly trying to condemn you and think you weren't a real Christian., I was just trying to explain what I wrote gently because I incorrectly thought you meant something different than what you actually wrote. God bless.
 
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I guess what i was trying to explain is that if someone who doesnt walk in the truth and comes to me and tells me his girlfriend just left him the first thing that comes out of my mouth isn't me telling him it is probably because he isn't walking according to the truth and that is why his girlfriend left him. I share empathy with him and maybe explain how something similar has happened to me before and then tell him how Christ helped me through it. Just like when Paul was in Greece and preaching about the unknown God that they didn't know. He didn't start off his sermon by telling them bluntly that they were all idolatrous and that the were straight way on the way to hell even though that may have been the case.
 
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Yes you are correct. And for what it is worth when I misread your post it wasn't like I was secretly trying to condemn you and think you weren't a real Christian., I was just trying to explain what I wrote gently because I incorrectly thought you meant something different than what you actually wrote. God bless.
What you said is useful, I have not been judging that I'm God the Father, having complete knowledge of men's hearts.

Peace to you.
 
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Thomas,

beware Brother!:)
I say thanks in a considerate way. It's right to warn a brother when not sure there is a need to warn them. I have had the right experience before you said what you said.
 
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I guess what i was trying to explain is that if someone who doesnt walk in the truth and comes to me and tells me his girlfriend just left him the first thing that comes out of my mouth isn't me telling him it is probably because he isn't walking according to the truth and that is why his girlfriend left him. I share empathy with him and maybe explain how something similar has happened to me before and then tell him how Christ helped me through it. Just like when Paul was in Greece and preaching about the unknown God that they didn't know. He didn't start off his sermon by telling them bluntly that they were all idolatrous and that the were straight way on the way to hell even though that may have been the case.
I'm not sure why you said that. Maybe you will want to send me a private message to explain what you judge to be the truth of why you said that. You may be humiliated in the forum if I ask you questions about this here.
 
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I will never be put to shame for walking in the light. I just meant that we ought to show compassion for people when proclaiming the good news.
 
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I will never be put to shame for walking in the light.
I don't say this arrogantly and selfishly, I don't believe you have been walking in the light and that The Holy Spirit has been guiding you.

I just meant that we ought to show compassion for people when proclaiming the good news.
I'm not sure why you said that. Maybe you will want to send me a private message to explain what you judge to be the truth of why you said that. You may be humiliated in the forum if I ask you questions about this here.
 
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I don't say this arrogantly and selfishly, I don't believe you have been walking in the light and that The Holy Spirit has been guiding you.



I'm not sure why you said that. Maybe you will want to send me a private message to explain what you judge to be the truth of why you said that. You may be humiliated in the forum if I ask you questions about this here.
well when it comes down to it that is really only between me in God. I don't know what to say to you to try to convince you that I do walk correctly with Christ. Maybe look at all the opposition I face on here for only speaking the truth. But if people ignore that nothing I say will convince them.
 
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:hrmm: you could convince them
if you would only find the the truth that is written in the scriptures
for your personal questions to god
for god speaks by means of his written words in the scriptures
so that the truth should not be ignore
as it is written
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Awit: 34. 5. They looked unto him, and were lightened: and their faces were not ashamed.
6. This poor man cried, and the LORD heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.
7. The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.

8. O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
9. O fear the LORD, ye his saints: for there is no want to them that fear him.
10. The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger: but they that seek the LORD shall not want any good thing.

11. Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the LORD.
12. What man is he that desireth life, and loveth many days, that he may see good?
13. Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile.

14. Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.
15. The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry.

16. The face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
17. The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.
18. The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.

19. Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.
20. He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
21. Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.

22. The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate.
 
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well when it comes down to it that is really only between me in God.
I want to obey:

1 John 4:1

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

I don't know what to say to you to try to convince you that I do walk correctly with Christ.
I don't say this arrogantly and selfishly, I still don't believe you have been walking in the light and that The Holy Spirit has been guiding you.

Maybe look at all the opposition I face on here for only speaking the truth. But if people ignore that nothing I say will convince them.
I judge it's easier to ask each other questions and give answers to each other in private messages, I work to be efficient.