KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

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John146

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Isaiah 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

I see that the enemy has come in like a flood in America and also the whole world. Even on the global stage unbelief towards God’s written word is being promoted. And the world is becoming like the sea that John saw the beast rise up out of as he stood on the sand of the sea.

Everywhere and at all levels of society the the things taught in the Authorized Holy Bible are being denied and rejected by man.

It is in a time such as this that the Authorized Holy Bible is to be lifted up to exalt Jesus Christ and his doctrine, and to give prophetic knowledge and understanding to all who are confronting the end of days flood of iniquity to prepare the saints for the coming onslaught of the antichrist spirit and the wrath of Satan.

Only the Authorized gives the prophetic knowledge and understanding the saints need.
See 2 Timothy 3-4 for more...
 
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I have never done a numerical analysis of content but, I don't believe it would be a majority. Literal meaning covers much of scriptures. ( many have a problem with literal meaning in The Bible because they don't believe what is recorded).

Having said that..figures of speech is prominent.
As far as I can tell there are at least 3 messages in the bible.

The first message is to unbelievers and that message is that God expects perfection, we are not perfect so we need a savior. This message in the literal meaning of the text.

The second message is to those that are saved but are babes in Christ. The milk for babes in Christ is found in the literal text and this meaning should set the believer free and usher him into the third message. Romans 8 and 9 are good examples of milk passages.

The third message is to those that are saved and weaned from the milk. That message is hidden in plain sight in the literal text and the figurative language. This message can only be understood if one beleives every word of the literal text is right. Examples of these would be "eat my flesh", "cut off your right hand" and "that which is born of God sinneth not"... and of course many many others.

Saved people who change the words to fit their current level of understanding stay at the milk phase and never grow into the next level because they change the words that would have pushed them to the next level.
 

Dino246

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Everywhere and at all levels of society the the things taught in the Authorized Holy Bible are being denied and rejected by man.

It is in a time such as this that the Authorized Holy Bible is to be lifted up to exalt Jesus Christ and his doctrine, and to give prophetic knowledge and understanding to all who are confronting the end of days flood of iniquity to prepare the saints for the coming onslaught of the antichrist spirit and the wrath of Satan.

Only the Authorized gives the prophetic knowledge and understanding the saints need.
There are around 6,000 languages, and 5.5 billion people who will be lost simply because they can't read the KJV. What a shame.

In the real world, the KJV is only one of thousands of translations. Your version-worship is ridiculous.
 
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Isaiah 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

I see that the enemy has come in like a flood in America and also the whole world. Even on the global stage unbelief towards God’s written word is being promoted. And the world is becoming like the sea that John saw the beast rise up out of as he stood on the sand of the sea.

Everywhere and at all levels of society the the things taught in the Authorized Holy Bible are being denied and rejected by man.

It is in a time such as this that the Authorized Holy Bible is to be lifted up to exalt Jesus Christ and his doctrine, and to give prophetic knowledge and understanding to all who are confronting the end of days flood of iniquity to prepare the saints for the coming onslaught of the antichrist spirit and the wrath of Satan.

Only the Authorized gives the prophetic knowledge and understanding the saints need.
I don't think this is a new thing, there has always been two vines or "manuscript lines. The vine of Sodom was around in Deuteronomy.

[h=1]Deuteronomy 32:32 King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:[/FONT]
 

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As far as I can tell there are at least 3 messages in the bible.

The first message is to unbelievers and that message is that God expects perfection, we are not perfect so we need a savior. This message in the literal meaning of the text.

The second message is to those that are saved but are babes in Christ. The milk for babes in Christ is found in the literal text and this meaning should set the believer free and usher him into the third message. Romans 8 and 9 are good examples of milk passages.

The third message is to those that are saved and weaned from the milk. That message is hidden in plain sight in the literal text and the figurative language. This message can only be understood if one beleives every word of the literal text is right. Examples of these would be "eat my flesh", "cut off your right hand" and "that which is born of God sinneth not"... and of course many many others.

Saved people who change the words to fit their current level of understanding stay at the milk phase and never grow into the next level because they change the words that would have pushed them to the next level.
John 8:31-32 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

We must continue in Jesus’ word.
Only then are we disciples,
And disciples will know the truth.
And the truth will set the disciples free.

And disciples are disciplined in the study and use of the word of God.

Therefore there must needs be a authorized book of scriptures. A Holy Bible.
 

Joseppi

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I don't think this is a new thing, there has always been two vines or "manuscript lines.
The end of days is new.
And there’s more prophecy needed now for the time of the end then was needed for any previous time in history.
 
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The end of days is new.
And there’s more prophecy needed now for the time of the end then was needed for any previous time in history.
What makes end times people more important than anyone else throughout history lol? Deception is deception no matter what time it is.
 

Joseppi

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What makes end times people more important than anyone else throughout history lol? Deception is deception no matter what time it is.
It is the most prophesied of time because it is the time of harvesting the whole earth, rhe time of Jacob’s trouble, the time of the remnant, the time of conclusion of warfare.

As Jesus said, it is a time when many will be deceived, and the gospel will spread globally, when half the church fails to light their lamps and perish for not having the light of God’s written word.

God wrote so much because he is expects the saints to succeed during the time of great and global tribulation. We will need scripture to help prevent deception and the forces of the enemy, to give wisdom against the wolves, the principalities etc
 
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John146

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It is the most prophesied of time because it is the time of harvesting the whole earth, rhe time of Jacob’s trouble, the time of the remnant, the time of conclusion of warfare.

As Jesus said, it is a time when many will be deceived, and the gospel will spread globally, when half the church fails to light their lamps and perish for not having the light of God’s written word.

God wrote do much because he is coextensive the saints to succeed during the time of great and global tribulation.
I see the great harvest is past and the gleanings is now. God used the KJV to spur on the great harvest of the church. The new versions have brought upon us the Laodicea Age and a time of gleanings which will extend into the tribulation.
 
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It is the most prophesied of time because it is the time of harvesting the whole earth, rhe time of Jacob’s trouble, the time of the remnant, the time of conclusion of warfare.

As Jesus said, it is a time when many will be deceived, and the gospel will spread globally, when half the church fails to light their lamps and perish for not having the light of God’s written word.

God wrote so much because he is expects the saints to succeed during the time of great and global tribulation. We will need scripture to help prevent deception and the forces of the enemy, to give wisdom against the wolves, the principalities etc
A person is either saved or they're not. Which bible they read has no bearing on their salvation. Which bible does matter as far as growing as a Christian though. One CAN NOT see the kingdom of God unless he is born again of incorruptible word of God.
 
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I see the great harvest is past and the gleanings is now. God used the KJV to spur on the great harvest of the church. The new versions have brought upon us the Laodicea Age and a time of gleanings which will extend into the tribulation.
Where can I find this "end times" tribulation in the bible? Seriosly, I have never seen a 7 year tribulation anywhere in the bible and I'm just wondering where you get this from.
 

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Where can I find this "end times" tribulation in the bible? Seriosly, I have never seen a 7 year tribulation anywhere in the bible and I'm just wondering where you get this from.
I don't know if there is or not, but we really should question what we have heard all our lives.
 
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I don't know if there is or not, but we really should question what we have heard all our lives.
When I sincerely started studying the bible in ernest I found out that most everything I was taught can't be found anywhere in the bible.
 

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A person is either saved or they're not. Which bible they read has no bearing on their salvation. Which bible does matter as far as growing as a Christian though. One CAN NOT see the kingdom of God unless he is born again of incorruptible word of God.
I suspect you've addressed this previously... why do you equate the "incorruptible seed" with the word of God? Because of the parable of the sower? I believe it refers to Christ Himself, per Genesis 3:15 and Galatians 3:16:

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Galatians 3:16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
 

stonesoffire

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When I sincerely started studying the bible in ernest I found out that most everything I was taught can't be found anywhere in the bible.
3 months ago, I would of argued with you. Can't now. :)
 

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Here, you have to be careful about a statement like that, because a lot that you were taught pertained to what you have learned for yourself. Those believers in earlier days, like our parents had knowledge of the word of God. You just could not see it at the time. You saw the surface of what they believed, and once you began to learn on your own, than you began to see what was underneath that surface. They saw the same thing.
 

stonesoffire

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I suspect you've addressed this previously... why do you equate the "incorruptible seed" with the word of God? Because of the parable of the sower? I believe it refers to Christ Himself, per Genesis 3:15 and Galatians 3:16:

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Galatians 3:16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
If we are born of heaven through Jesus, then we too are of incorruptible seed. Can't see it?
 
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I suspect you've addressed this previously... why do you equate the "incorruptible seed" with the word of God? Because of the parable of the sower? I believe it refers to Christ Himself, per Genesis 3:15 and Galatians 3:16:

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Galatians 3:16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

[h=1]1 Peter 1:23 King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.[/FONT]
 

Joseppi

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I see the great harvest is past and the gleanings is now. God used the KJV to spur on the great harvest of the church. The new versions have brought upon us the Laodicea Age and a time of gleanings which will extend into the tribulation.
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

In the above we see that the tares and wheat grow together until the time of the end.

Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

The harvest is the end of the world.

Mark 4:29 But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.

When the fruit appears at the end then the harvesting will commence immediately.
 

Joseppi

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A person is either saved or they're not. Which bible they read has no bearing on their salvation. Which bible does matter as far as growing as a Christian though. One CAN NOT see the kingdom of God unless he is born again of incorruptible word of God.
Your thoughts only, no scriptural support presented.
That is, where does the scripture say scripture doesn’t matter for salvation?
 
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