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OK, let's unpack this. So, when Jesus comes and raptures EVERYONE, the living believers will have different bodies than the dead ones. Am I hearing you correctly?
One is a resurrection body and one is a changed body. Both are immortal but they aren't exactly the same either.



I would suggest you read 1 Cor 15, which addresses the rapture/resurrection. Paul says the living believers' bodies WILL BE CHANGED. So what does that mean to you?
It means no resurrection takes place so their bodies aren't "resurrection bodies".




1 Cor 15:23 proves that "those who belong to Him" are all changed/resurrected" at the same time.
Change is not a resurrection. You are conflating/confusing two different things.
 
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No place in Revelation 20:1-6 is Jesus Christ seen, sitting on a earthly throne amongst mortal humans as you claim, the depiction is 100% in the Lords (Spiritual Realm) No Earthly Kingdom, No Earthly Throne, No Mortal Humans, (Fact)
This is what I said in my last post to you:

"Are you unaware of these verses?
Rom 15:12 - And again Isaiah says, “The root of Jesse will come, even he who arises to rule the Gentiles; in him will the Gentiles hope.”
Rev 2:26-27
The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.
Rev 12:5 - She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne
Regv 19:15-16
From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

These verses refute your notions."

(Rule Them With A Rod Of Iron) dosent mean sitting on a throne, amongst earthly humans as you suggest and claim
Gee. Really? Isn't Jesus Christ described as the King of kings and Lord of lords? Where do kings sit when they reign?

It means nothing more than the Lords (Destruction) of the wicked, as a potter destroys his clay vessels with a rod of iron (Fact)
What an opinion!!

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Psalm 2:9KJV
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Another verse that refutes your opinion that Christ WON'T sit on a throne and rule the nations:

2 Tim 2:12a- if we endure, we will also reign with him.

So then, explain what "reign" means.
 
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One is a resurrection body and one is a changed body. Both are immortal but they aren't exactly the same either.
I always enjoy when the opportunity arises to inform fellow believers about what God's Word says.

1 Cor 15-
22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

"those who belong to Him" include both the dead and living saints.

42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable;
43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

And now, the ultimate proof:

49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man.
50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—

Let me repeat what Paul said:

We will not all sleep (meaning not all believers will die), but we (that means ALL believers) will be changed.

Did you get that? All believers will be changed. So, because the dead ones get a resurrection body, and ALL believers will be changed, the living believers will get the SAME BODY.

All you're doing is trying to split hairs.

It means no resurrection takes place so their bodies aren't "resurrection bodies".
All will be changed. Deal with it.

Change is not a resurrection. You are conflating/confusing two different things.
Go ahead and keep trying to split hairs. lol

Phil 3:21 - who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

The bolded words are crystal clear. All believers, both asleep and awake, "will be LIKE HIS GLORIOUS BODY".

iow, ALL believers get a body that will be like Jesus' RESURRECTION body.

You can call the living believer's "change" any way you want, but the Bible is clear that what the living believers get is the SAME KIND of body as that of our RESURRECTED Lord.
 

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That's splitting hairs really. Our mortal bodies are already decaying & dying.
We will all be changed just as you've described.
It's a resurrection for all of us.

The Rapture and the Ressurection are not the same event. The Ressurection happens only to the dead saints, and the Rapture only happens to the living saints.

The living aren't resurrected because they didn't die. The dead aren't raptured because they return with Christ as he returns.

Besides this, Paul makes it clear the resurrection happens before the rapture so the living cannot "precede/prevent" the dead proving that the two events are not one single event but they do happen nearly at the same time.


1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
 

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I always enjoy when the opportunity arises to inform fellow believers about what God's Word says.
You didn't get it right though. The living cannot be resurrected and thus don't have a "resurrection body". The living change from mortal living bodies to immortal living bodies. The dead go to being bodiless to having an immortal living body.

While all end up immortal, the process is different and should not be conflated.
 
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The Rapture and the Ressurection are not the same event. The Ressurection happens only to the dead saints, and the Rapture only happens to the living saints.
Just trying to split hairs. You've been given all the pertinent verses that prove that ALL believers receive the same kind of body that our RESURRECTED Lord has.

Phil 3:21 - who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

The living aren't resurrected because they didn't die. The dead aren't raptured because they return with Christ as he returns.
ALL believers will "be like His glorious body". SAME KIND of body. And our Lord's body is described as RESURRECTED.

So you are just splitting hairs.

Besides this, Paul makes it clear the resurrection happens before the rapture so the living cannot "precede/prevent" the dead proving that the two events are not one single event but they do happen nearly at the same time.


1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
The only distinction here is that the dead saints get get their resurrection bodies before the living believers. ALL will be changed and ALL will by LIKE HIS GLORIOUS BODY.

That's the point.
 
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You didn't get it right though. The living cannot be resurrected and thus don't have a "resurrection body". The living change from mortal living bodies to immortal living bodies. The dead go to being bodiless to having an immortal living body.
Phil 3:21 refutes your opinion.

While all end up immortal, the process is different and should not be conflated.
Same event, same kind of body, which is LIKE HIS GORIOUS BODY.

What's not to understand?

When Jesus returns to earth, called the Second Advent or Second Coming, dead believers receive their resurrection bodies just before living believers receive their changed bodies, but BOTH THE DEAD AND LIVING BELIEVERS WILL HAVE BODIES LIKE HIS GLORIOUS BODY.

Your attempt at splitting hairs means nothing. ALL believers will have the same kind of body as our RESURRECTED Lord has.

Different words, yes, but the SAME EVENT.
 

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Phil 3:21 refutes your opinion.


Same event, same kind of body, which is LIKE HIS GORIOUS BODY.

What's not to understand?

When Jesus returns to earth, called the Second Advent or Second Coming, dead believers receive their resurrection bodies just before living believers receive their changed bodies, but BOTH THE DEAD AND LIVING BELIEVERS WILL HAVE BODIES LIKE HIS GLORIOUS BODY.

Your attempt at splitting hairs means nothing. ALL believers will have the same kind of body as our RESURRECTED Lord has.

Different words, yes, but the SAME EVENT.
It's not the same event. One event happens before the other and one event happens in heaven while the other on the Earth. You have the timing of the Rapture right, but the rest of the details are wrong.
 

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This is what I said in my last post to you:

"Are you unaware of these verses?
Rom 15:12 - And again Isaiah says, “The root of Jesse will come, even he who arises to rule the Gentiles; in him will the Gentiles hope.”
Rev 2:26-27
The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.
Rev 12:5 - She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne
Regv 19:15-16
From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

These verses refute your notions."


Gee. Really? Isn't Jesus Christ described as the King of kings and Lord of lords? Where do kings sit when they reign?


What an opinion!!


Another verse that refutes your opinion that Christ WON'T sit on a throne and rule the nations:

2 Tim 2:12a- if we endure, we will also reign with him.

So then, explain what "reign" means.
Your response is empty, and runs from the facts presented below, "Silent" in the presence of presented truth.

Your going to look long and hard in Rev 20:1-6 to find your claims of Jesus Christ in a Earthly Kingdom, Sitting on A Earthly Throne, with Mortal Humans Present?

"Becasuse They Don't Exist" (Fact) :giggle:

A 1,000 Year Millennium On This Earth Is A Man Made Fairy Tale, Just As A Pre-Trib Rapture Of The Church To Heaven Is.
 

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Your response is empty, and runs from the facts presented below, "Silent" in the presence of presented truth.

Your going to look long and hard in Rev 20:1-6 to find your claims of Jesus Christ in a Earthly Kingdom, Sitting on A Earthly Throne, with Mortal Humans Present?

"Becasuse They Don't Exist" (Fact) :giggle:
They do exist. Christ told us that.

The arrival of Christ for the second time accomplishes many things including the vials of wrath and destroying the army of the beast at Armageddon as well as resulting in the beast and false prophet being cast into the LOF. There is one more thing mentioned during the second coming that many do not notice which is the future rule over the nations which proves there are unsaved mortals that are set aside for being ruled over by the rod of iron:

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite(Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations: and he shall rule(FUTURE tense verb) them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth(PRESENT tense verb) the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.


Here rule/poimaino is in the FUTURE tense meaning it will happen at some point AFTER the second coming and battle of Armageddon while treadeth/pateo is written in the PRESENT tense meaning it is happening during this second coming and slaying. This proves the Premill position because indeed there is a future rule of people who were not slain during the second coming that Christ and his saints will rule over.


A second witness to this:

Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is the second coming. Everything we read of next comes after the second coming:

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

After "the end" comes, there is given power over the nations to those that are overcomers which naturally includes those who "are alive and remain" at the second coming. They will be given power over the nations after Christ has returned not before it.

Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

After the second coming and after "the end" will the overcomers be given power over the nations, ruling them with a rod of iron. That proves the rod of iron rule over the nations for a thousand years does not even start until Christ has returned and has given overcomers this power to rule over the nations.

It is impossible to understand what happens at the second coming and what happens AFTER the second coming properly without understanding the verb tenses involved.

Since scripture does not contradict itself, there are no scriptures which state all mortals are slain at the second coming leaving none to be ruled over.

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Verb tenses are very important and should never be ignored. If I said, "I'm at the store buying (present tense verb) the ingredients for Spaghetti so I can cook (future tense verb) Spaghetti for you." No one should think I was cooking Spaghetti in the store. Clearly the buying is at a different time than the cooking. It's the same with the events of Revelation 19. There are verbs there in the present tense regarding smiting and treading which are violent actions and they take place during that battle. There is another event mentioned there about ruling over people but it is written in the future tense proving it happens AFTER the violent events. The ruling is not happening during the violent events of the second coming and the battle of Armageddon. Furthermore the Greek word for "rule" means to take care as a Shepherd would so the rule is peaceful which makes sense. There is a battle and a lot of killing, then non-military/civilian survivors are cared for in a Shepherding sense. That happened in wars the United States were in where after WW2 was over, we actually helped Germany and Japan rebuild.
 

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They do exist. Christ told us that.

The arrival of Christ for the second time accomplishes many things including the vials of wrath and destroying the army of the beast at Armageddon as well as resulting in the beast and false prophet being cast into the LOF. There is one more thing mentioned during the second coming that many do not notice which is the future rule over the nations which proves there are unsaved mortals that are set aside for being ruled over by the rod of iron:

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite(Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations: and he shall rule(FUTURE tense verb) them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth(PRESENT tense verb) the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.


Here rule/poimaino is in the FUTURE tense meaning it will happen at some point AFTER the second coming and battle of Armageddon while treadeth/pateo is written in the PRESENT tense meaning it is happening during this second coming and slaying. This proves the Premill position because indeed there is a future rule of people who were not slain during the second coming that Christ and his saints will rule over.


A second witness to this:

Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is the second coming. Everything we read of next comes after the second coming:

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

After "the end" comes, there is given power over the nations to those that are overcomers which naturally includes those who "are alive and remain" at the second coming. They will be given power over the nations after Christ has returned not before it.

Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

After the second coming and after "the end" will the overcomers be given power over the nations, ruling them with a rod of iron. That proves the rod of iron rule over the nations for a thousand years does not even start until Christ has returned and has given overcomers this power to rule over the nations.

It is impossible to understand what happens at the second coming and what happens AFTER the second coming properly without understanding the verb tenses involved.

Since scripture does not contradict itself, there are no scriptures which state all mortals are slain at the second coming leaving none to be ruled over.

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Verb tenses are very important and should never be ignored. If I said, "I'm at the store buying (present tense verb) the ingredients for Spaghetti so I can cook (future tense verb) Spaghetti for you." No one should think I was cooking Spaghetti in the store. Clearly the buying is at a different time than the cooking. It's the same with the events of Revelation 19. There are verbs there in the present tense regarding smiting and treading which are violent actions and they take place during that battle. There is another event mentioned there about ruling over people but it is written in the future tense proving it happens AFTER the violent events. The ruling is not happening during the violent events of the second coming and the battle of Armageddon. Furthermore the Greek word for "rule" means to take care as a Shepherd would so the rule is peaceful which makes sense. There is a battle and a lot of killing, then non-military/civilian survivors are cared for in a Shepherding sense. That happened in wars the United States were in where after WW2 was over, we actually helped Germany and Japan rebuild.
The Whole Teaching Of A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On Earth Is Falsely Supported By Revelation 20:1-6

Don't change the subject, jump to some other verse, run away with distractions,answer the direct question.

Direct Question: Please Find A (Earthly Kingdom), Jesus Christ On A (Earthly Throne), Or (Mortal Humans) In Revelation 20:1-6 Below?

1.) Earthly Kingdom
2.) Earthly Throne
3.) Mortal Humans


You Can't, Because They Don't Exist!

The Teaching Of A 1,000 Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Where Jesus Christ Sits On A Throne, Ruling Over Mortal Humans?

"Is A Man Made Fairy Tale" (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

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3.) Mortal Humans[/B]

You Can't, Because They Don't Exist!
I have already proven that they do exist. You avoided the content of my post because you cannot deny the RULE is future tense to the killing events of the second coming. That proves people are still alive to be ruled over which is the entire reason for the rod of iron rule. Amillennialism wouldn't even exist if the first person to teach it bothered to check the verb tenses in Revelation 19.


But, at least take some consolation in having gotten the timing of the Rapture correct.
 

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I have already proven that they do exist. You avoided the content of my post because you cannot deny the RULE is future tense to the killing events of the second coming. That proves people are still alive to be ruled over which is the entire reason for the rod of iron rule. Amillennialism wouldn't even exist if the first person to teach it bothered to check the verb tenses in Revelation 19.


But, at least take some consolation in having gotten the timing of the Rapture correct.
As Expected, You Run From The Direct Question :giggle:

The Whole Teaching Of A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On Earth Is Falsely Supported By Revelation 20:1-6

Don't change the subject, jump to some other verse, run away with distractions, answer the direct question.

Direct Question: Please Find A (Earthly Kingdom), Jesus Christ On A (Earthly Throne), Or (Mortal Humans) In Revelation 20:1-6?

1.) Earthly Kingdom
2.) Earthly Throne
3.) Mortal Humans


You Can't, Because They Don't Exist!

The Teaching Of A 1,000 Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Where Jesus Christ Sits On A Throne, Ruling Over Mortal Humans?

"Is A Man Made Fairy Tale" (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 
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I said:
"And our Lord's body is described as RESURRECTED."
That's because he DIED. The living don't die.
Sheesh. BOTH the dead and living will receive a body like His. Deal with it.
 
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It's not the same event. One event happens before the other and one event happens in heaven while the other on the Earth. You have the timing of the Rapture right, but the rest of the details are wrong.
Let's be clear here. The same event happens sequentially. First the dead bodies are raised, THEN the living believers get their changed bodies. BOTH get the same kind of bodies.

Both actions occur at the same event, it's just that one occurs before the other.

You're splitting hairs is quite obvious.
 
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Below is just a few places in the first chapter, where the Lord addresses Ezekiel as 'Son of man":

Son of man,” He said to me, “stand up on your feet and I will speak to you.” 2And as He spoke to me, the Spirit entered me and set me on my feet, and I heard Him speaking to me.

3“Son of man,” He said to me, “I am sending you to the Israelites, to a rebellious nation that has rebelled against Me. To this very day they and their fathers have rebelled against Me. 4They are obstinate and stubborn children. I am sending you to them, and you are to say to them, ‘This is what the Lord GOD says.’

5And whether they listen or refuse to listen—for they are a rebellious house—they will know that a prophet has been among them.

6But you, son of man, do not be afraid of them or their words. Do not be afraid, though briers and thorns surround you, and you dwell among scorpions. Do not be afraid of their words or dismayed by their presence, though they are a rebellious house. 7But speak My words to them, whether they listen or refuse to listen, for they are rebellious.

8And you, son of man, listen to what I tell you. Do not be rebellious like that rebellious house. Open your mouth and eat what I give you.”

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Just fyi, Ezekiel is addressed by the Lord as 'Son of man' more than 80 times in the book of Ezekiel. And there are other prophets in scripture who are likewise addressed as 'Son of man'

I would also add, that we have angels described with rainbows above their heads and with the same description as Jesus in His glorified state. Let's look at the whole context:

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14And I looked and saw a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was One like the Son of Man, with a golden crown on His head and a sharp sickle in His hand.

15Then another angel came out of the temple, crying out in a loud voice to the One seated on the cloud, “Swing Your sickle and reap, because the time has come to harvest; for the crop of the earth is ripe.” 16So the One seated on the cloud swung His sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

17Then another angel came out of the temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp sickle. 18Still another angel, with authority over the fire, came from the altar and called out in a loud voice to the angel with the sharp sickle, “Swing your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of grapes from the vine of the earth, because its grapes are ripe.”

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Though there are many who interpret the one seated on the cloud as being Jesus because of the title "Son of Man," I am personally not convinced of this. As we saw in Ezekiel, he is addressed by the Lord as "Son of man" over 80 times. We also have the appearance of angels with the same description as Jesus in His glorified state. In the scripture above, we continually see the words "another angel" which would bring me to believe that the one seated on the cloud is another angel and not the Lord himself. In addition, I don't believe that an angel would have to tell the Lord when the harvest is ripe and when to swing his sickle. If anything, the Lord would be the One telling the angel to perform that.

In any case, from looking at the context above, I think that you will agree that the one who swings the second sickle is identified as an angel who comes out of the temple, addressed as "another angel." Therefore, rather than having the one on the cloud being the Lord swinging his sickle and then an angel swinging the second sickle, I believe that these two who swing their sickles are both angels. Regarding "Angels do not wear crowns" there is nothing in scripture that would support this. Consider the description of the following angel:

"Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, wrapped in a cloud, with a rainbow above his head. His face was like the sun, and his legs were like pillars of fire."

Compare with the following description of Jesus with the angel above:

"The hair of His head was white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes were like a blazing fire. His feet were like polished bronze refined in a furnace, and His voice was like the roar of many waters."

I am vary zealous for the truth and accuracy of God's word, which is why I do not follow the crowd in regards to interpretations. By this, I am not saying that you are following the crowd. I see that you have done a lot of study yourself. I just need to know the truth of scripture for myself by what God reveals to me and not by what the vast majority believes or teaches. Anything that I personally have not come to a conclusion about, I put it in my spiritual cupboard until the Lord reveals it to me.

Some things in scripture are not always what they seem to be.

I recognize and appreciate your zealousness for the word of God
lol
you proved my point.
an angel is not a son of man.

angels do not wear crowns.

but yes an angel or Jesus can swing a sickle.

rev 14 has Jesus sitting on a cloud with a sickle.

think about it. No one in heaven could open the scroll. No MAN was found.
Jesus is the God man. he is son of man. No angel can possibly be connected to that...or wear a crown.
 
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Your response is empty, and runs from the facts presented below, "Silent" in the presence of presented truth.

Your going to look long and hard in Rev 20:1-6 to find your claims of Jesus Christ in a Earthly Kingdom, Sitting on A Earthly Throne, with Mortal Humans Present?

"Becasuse They Don't Exist" (Fact) :giggle:

A 1,000 Year Millennium On This Earth Is A Man Made Fairy Tale, Just As A Pre-Trib Rapture Of The Church To Heaven Is.
What a pitiful response when the facts have been presented.

Just munch on this fact: Jesus Christ isn't the King of kings and Lord of lords for nothing. He RULES whether you grasp that or not.
Just curious; where does the 1,000 year period of time mentioned in Rev 20 occur?
 

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What a pitiful response when the facts have been presented.

Just munch on this fact: Jesus Christ isn't the King of kings and Lord of lords for nothing. He RULES whether you grasp that or not.
Just curious; where does the 1,000 year period of time mentioned in Rev 20 occur?
Where does the 1,000 years below occur? :unsure:

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
 
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Then another angel came out of the temple, crying out in a loud voice to the One seated on the cloud, “Swing Your sickle and reap, because the time has come to harvest; for the crop of the earth is ripe.” 16So the One seated on the cloud swung His sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
yes.
another angel came out.(yes we already saw 3 angels with the NEXT ANGEL being "another angel"). vs 9 has the third angel. [9 And the third angel followed them, saying......]

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

vs 15 ;"says to the 'one seated on the cloud'..." (4th angel "another angel" talking to Jesus)




but this verse is Jesus. Son of man and wearing a crown....14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.