lets all sin!!!!!!

[Red33]

You are holding to the classic modern church error. Inability.

When people truly believe they cannot stop sinning then they won't. This belief is rooted in the teaching of the "sin nature" as something you are "born with." Such a belief redefines sin to simply be a symptom of a condition of which you were born with rather than a crime against God.

It is a deadly error!

If a sinner sins because that is how he was born then the sinner is not at fault. A sinner who believes such a thing cannot be truly sorry for their actions because the fault is placed on their condition at birth. In reality it is putting the blame of sin on God which is blasphemy.

Sin is a moral issue, it is a choice. It is true then when someone willfully chooses to suppress the light in favour of yielding to their flesh they sell themselves into bondage to sin. Sin hardens the heart and is very deceitful. Over time a natural predisposition to sin will develop and that is what you read of in Eph 2.

Jesus Christ came to set us free from this bondage through the cross. We are to die with Him in the baptism of repentance that we may be raised up by the power of God to newness of life, quickened by His Spirit, and reconciled through the propitiation of His blood for our past sins.

Sin is rooted in rebellion to God and thus to cease from rebellion means to align oneself with the will of God. Without the will of God there can be no cessation of sin, hence we cannot stop sinning without the drawing of God.

Yet this drawing of God, through His grace, has appeared to ALL MEN. Through the light of conscience, preaching, the Bible, by example etc. Men choose to sin when they resist this light and that is why they are under condemnation. It is a heart issue. The sinners heart is defiled by selfishness rooted in the self will. In other words a sinner wants to be as God, their own god, walking in their own righteousness.

This "accepting of Christ" is nonsense and is not found anywhere in the Bible. When the rich young ruler came to Jesus and asked what did he have to do to inherit eternal life Jesus told him to keep the commandments. When the rich young ruler said that he already did then Jesus said he lacked one thing, he had to sell all he had and come and follow Him.

This made the rich young ruler sad because he has many worldly possessions and was not willing to forsake them so he left Jesus.

In this incident Jesus was teaching what it costs to follow Him. It costs everything. We have to be willing to lay aside self which means to "deny ourselves and what we want" and to pick up our cross "which means to walk with our wills crucified not yielding to the passions and desires of the flesh" and then we will be able to follow Jesus.

Very few are willing to do that.

Every person has the ability but not every person has the will.

It is also important to note that suppressing the light in favour of darkness is extremely dangerous because God does not strive with men forever. He does give people up to a reprobate mind and He does send strong delusion. Anyone who ends up in that state would find it impossible to repent because the light in them has been removed.

As I have stated in other posts the error of inability goes back to what Augustine of Hippo taught. It was that man who brought the teachings of unconditional election and total depravity into church orthodoxy thus destroying the repentance message.

You don't understand what sin is nor do you understand what God did with sin through the Lamb. I have said this others and will say it to you. I could spend (30) days with you, day in and day out, and could find out just how much sin and iniquity you have going on in your heart, you habits, your thinking, your conversation, your relationship to others, including your family and what you are doing with the promises of God. I would be able to tell the kind of faith you live by, how much grace your heart has been established in and if the Holy Spirit is shedding abroad the love of God in your heart. I would be able to examine your fruit and know what kind it is. I would get to know your weaknesses, your strongholds that hold you captive, and the kind of deceit that is active in your heart. I would be able to observe how you respond to testings, to a trial, to adversity, how you get along with those you don't care to be around and the kind of character and godly nature that God has been able to work into your life, if any. After all that, what good would it do you if I were to lay it all in front of you and tell you that these are the trends and habits of sin and iniquity in your life that you need to repent of immediately less you perish in them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It would all useless, empty and vanity.

 

[Skinski7]

You don't understand what sin is nor do you understand what God did with sin through the Lamb. I have said this others and will say it to you. I could spend (30) days with you, day in and day out, and could find out just how much sin and iniquity you have going on in your heart, you habits, your thinking, your conversation, your relationship to others, including your family and what you are doing with the promises of God. I would be able to tell the kind of faith you live by, how much grace your heart has been established in and if the Holy Spirit is shedding abroad the love of God in your heart. I would be able to examine your fruit and know what kind it is. I would get to know your weaknesses, your strongholds that hold you captive, and the kind of deceit that is active in your heart. I would be able to observe how you respond to testings, to a trial, to adversity, how you get along with those you don't care to be around and the kind of character and godly nature that God has been able to work into your life, if any. After all that, what good would it do you if I were to lay it all in front of you and tell you that these are the trends and habits of sin and iniquity in your life that you need to repent of immediately less you perish in them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It would all useless, empty and vanity.

You flat out ignore what I am plainly saying in regards to the crucifixion of the flesh.

You flat out ignore that those that are in Christ HAVE crucified the passions and desires of the flesh.

You just ignore it completely and replace it with humanist rhetoric making all sin the same.

The Bible defines sin as...

Transgression
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


Doing wrong when you know to do right (transgression of conscience).
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.


Also what is not of faith is sin in the context of violating ones conscience.
Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

The sin that leads to death is WILLFUL REBELLION.

There was no sacrifice for willful rebellion under the Old Covenant.
Num 15:30 But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Num 15:31 Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.

The same principle exists under the New Covenant.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,


You hate the message of purity. You don't believe the message of purity.

Jesus came to make us pure.

Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

You deny that faith purifies the heart as it says in Acts 15:9. You believe everyone is defiled in their heart and that God cannot purify them because your jesus is an imaginary jesus with no power.

My God purifies those who abide in Him. Those whose eyes are single are indeed full of light.

Mat 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

You call Jesus a liar by saying that their hearts are still full of iniquity. You hold to a gospel of death and I won't tip toe around that fact.



I write a post about repentance, the crucifixion of the flesh and being raised by the power of God and you absolutely despise it and then proceed to argue in favour of sin.

Why not argue in favour of righteousness? You are terribly deceived.

 

[VII]

you won't want to do it. (sin).

Sin does not abide in us IF we abide in Him.

VII, have you stopped, dropped, prayed to your Father in heaven for forbiveness of your sins,.accepted Him to be Lord of your life, been filled by the baptism of the Holy Spirit?

What did Jesus tell those who accuse the prostitute, Mary Magdalene, of sinning?

”He who is without sin cast the first stone.”

These were those who , some anyway, I'm sure, of this accusatory throng, were believers , 'disciples' . And, NONE threw a stone because ALL new they were a man and had sin.

So, after that, Jesus said, to Mary Magdalene, no one has condemned you, neither do I, go then, and, sin no more. Read this scripture to fully understand context, I speak from memory, but gist is this.

That is one thing I am getting at "you won't want to do it" as you said.
It makes sense why he said there are few who find it…

I just pray our Lord would open the eyes of those who claim to follow yet enjoy sin…
i pray for them every day..

 

[VII]

______-
Why should you try?

You can't do it ! YOU, VII, ME, EVERYONE, ALL OF MANKIND, is FALLEN, WE can't KEEP FROM SINNING, Christ dying on the cross showed us the way to not want to sin no more but it is what is RECEIVED after that acceptance of Christ to lead your life forevermore that MAKES you want not to no longer live in sin, you want to sin no more.

1 John 3:6 says this so clearly, what else can I possibly say ?

Is there a doctrinal gap between my and your beliefs, VII? Do you believe in the receiving of the Holy Spirit to keep you from sinning I guess is what I am asking now. Acts 8 states that we are to 'receive' the Holy Spirit . Again, I am not condemning you or anyone, but that is what scripture says. It is not water baptism (necessarily), the Lord leads your heart. Ultimately, YOU want to do things in your life through great prayer and fasting and thanksgiving to God, and, FOLLOW His leading of your individual life, you know the scripture, His eye is on the sparrow, right.

His power, in Christ alone, His acts, ALL His gracious gifts given us, including the gift of the Holy Spirit, THIS is our strength, THIS is our hope, for today, for tomorrow, for evermore

Why should we try to resist sin really? I do not want to sin, I do not like doing things that offend our Father; I do not like doing things that our Lord died to cover. I am happy to resist temptation, I am not going to willingly give into temptation!

 

[feedm3]

You flat out ignore what I am plainly saying in regards to the crucifixion of the flesh.

You flat out ignore that those that are in Christ HAVE crucified the passions and desires of the flesh.

You just ignore it completely and replace it with humanist rhetoric making all sin the same.

The Bible defines sin as...

Transgression
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


Doing wrong when you know to do right (transgression of conscience).
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.


Also what is not of faith is sin in the context of violating ones conscience.
Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

The sin that leads to death is WILLFUL REBELLION.

There was no sacrifice for willful rebellion under the Old Covenant.
Num 15:30 But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Num 15:31 Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.

The same principle exists under the New Covenant.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,


You hate the message of purity. You don't believe the message of purity.

Jesus came to make us pure.

Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

You deny that faith purifies the heart as it says in Acts 15:9. You believe everyone is defiled in their heart and that God cannot purify them because your jesus is an imaginary jesus with no power.

My God purifies those who abide in Him. Those whose eyes are single are indeed full of light.

Mat 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

You call Jesus a liar by saying that their hearts are still full of iniquity. You hold to a gospel of death and I won't tip toe around that fact.



I write a post about repentance, the crucifixion of the flesh and being raised by the power of God and you absolutely despise it and then proceed to argue in favour of sin.

Why not argue in favour of righteousness? You are terribly deceived.

Great response, I believe you nailed him with that one.
Everything you said you had scripture to back it up, unlike someone else.

 

[Crossfire]

Guys, please understand, if we are truly saved then the Spirit of God lives in us. If we whole heartedly pursue the things of God, the fruits of the Spirit will begin to manifest in our lives. The fruits of Spirit are not something we can learn but rather they are the Holy Spirit making His presence felt in us and through us. The fruits of the Spirit are the divine nature of God in us and if we truly possess His divine nature, the lusts of the flesh (sin) will have no power over us.

 

[cfultz3]

I ask everyone to ponder on what Skinski says:

If a sinner sins because that is how he was born then the sinner is not at fault. A sinner who believes such a thing cannot be truly sorry for their actions because the fault is placed on their condition at birth. In reality it is putting the blame of sin on God which is blasphemy.

 

[cfultz3]

We are changed by following the Spirit who leads to the Light. That is what is meant when it says that He is our Guidance. He is face to face with you and as long as He is before you, then you are being lead away from darkness. And when you choice to walk away, then you are not being lead by the Spirit.

 

[cfultz3]

Don't we all have a walk in life? Why not walk before the Lord. He is face to face with you. Please undersatnd, look it up yourself, sin can mean to wonder away from. Just exactly what are we walking away from?

 

[VII]

You don't understand what sin is nor do you understand what God did with sin through the Lamb. I have said this others and will say it to you. I could spend (30) days with you, day in and day out, and could find out just how much sin and iniquity you have going on in your heart, you habits, your thinking, your conversation, your relationship to others, including your family and what you are doing with the promises of God. I would be able to tell the kind of faith you live by, how much grace your heart has been established in and if the Holy Spirit is shedding abroad the love of God in your heart. I would be able to examine your fruit and know what kind it is. I would get to know your weaknesses, your strongholds that hold you captive, and the kind of deceit that is active in your heart. I would be able to observe how you respond to testings, to a trial, to adversity, how you get along with those you don't care to be around and the kind of character and godly nature that God has been able to work into your life, if any. After all that, what good would it do you if I were to lay it all in front of you and tell you that these are the trends and habits of sin and iniquity in your life that you need to repent of immediately less you perish in them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It would all useless, empty and vanity.

It is each person’s own responsibility to look at what is in them self, no one is following people around telling people, you change this, you over there change that.
I must tell people to strive to be pleasing to our father, fight the good fight
When all I hear others tell people live with it and enjoy.
A drug addict must decide for them self that they do not want to do such things and pray to our Lord to strengthen them.
But when that addict is being told no, no do not fight it, just live with it, go on, give in… then I must speak out, I can’t keep silent.
We are not to ignore our own sins but expose them. I am not going to pretend I do not have a lustful eye, and just live with it and enjoy it. I am not going to pretend I do not say evil things about my in-laws, and pretend it’s not wrong, and do it willingly, I am not going to willingly give in to temptation and watch porn. Anyone that tells people to continue to do such things and live with it, I pray for them.

 

[VII]

_______
We must keep our eyes on the prize, which is Christ Jesus our Lord God Saviour , the Holy Spirit indwelling in your temple (body) will KEEP you strong in that fight.

But, yes, we fight against the things of Satan, of the pitch-black, sooty, darkness, that wants so very well to TAKE YOUR soul.

you just said in your last post why try.... now you say we fight against satan, which is it,
fight or do not fight? resist or enjoy?

i do think many on here believe the same thing and just have a misunderstanding with communication on one side or the other, nothing wrong with that. But too many are coming off as if we are to continue to sin, enjoy the practice, keep doing it, do not resist temptation. I will preach against that until my death.

 

[VII]

i am off to get back to my studies i pray all do the same, turn to our Lord. Seek Him, don’t just sit. see you in a few days

I pray good things for you all, even those I find myself debating against. My hope is for all to make it, sadly we know not all will

 

[Grandpa]

One of your errors is that you totally neglect the crucifixion of the flesh.

Many professing Christian's are in bondage to their lust and they are taught exactly what you teach. "Pray to God and keep asking Him to take the lust from you." That is not in the Bible.

These people are never told the truth that they have to REPENT and CRUCIFY their lust.

Those that are Christ's HAVE crucified their passions and desires.

Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

It is something they have done. Someone who is still in bondage to their lust HAS NOT crucified it and is thus does not belong to Christ.

The church system is full of sin because Biblical repentance has been eliminated from the Gospel. The crucifixion of the old man has been totally perverted.

The whole purpose of crucifying the old man in repentance is to walk in victory not serving sin.

Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Romans chapter 6 lays this out so clearly. The modern theologians have totally perverted Romans 6 and have twisted it into a "positional" crucifixion. This has to be Satan's masterpiece to pull this off.

The truth is right in front of people, it is so clear, yet they cannot see it.

The Pharisees acted in the same way when Jesus healed the blind man on the Sabbath. They refused the truth right in front of them due to their pride. To hold onto pride for at the expense of your soul is a very expensive transaction.



If you go through all your posts Grandpa notice that you never talk about crucifying the passions and desires of the flesh in repentance.

You Gospel is the package. You present the package of "Jesus did it all" and you just receive and trust in that and like magic you are saved.

The package gospel eliminates the death of the old man, striving, the narrow way, and walking in victory.

The package gospel is a sin gospel where you are the Romans wretch, the chief of all sinners, and you will always be sinning. It is a gospel of defeat a gospel of death. It is the gospel which is preached far and wide all over the world, all over the tv, all over the radio, in all the so called christian bookshop. It is the gospel of the MANY.

The true Gospel of the FEW is scarcely heard anywhere today.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Crucify the flesh by an act of the flesh... it doesn't work that way.

A person is in bondage to sin until they are saved by Grace. After the Lord saves a person from their Lust or their Anger or the other many plagues that beset him, they are no longer in bondage to it. A person cannot save themself, or they wouldn't need a Saviour. I need my Saviour. If you don't think you need a saviour then that is unfortunate for you. Very unfortunate indeed.

I wouldn't know why someone would rely on their own flesh instead of relying on the Lord Jesus. Unless they just don't know any better...

He is the Vine and we are the branches. We produce fruit because of what the Lord does in us. We don't produce fruit out of our own willpower except the "fruit" of the flesh.

Wolves devour sheep, keep that in mind. But they have to separate them from the Shepherd first.

What do sheep do? They keep their focus on the Shepherd and follow Him. As long as a sheep does this they are safe.

Very few people understand Grace, I have found. But just about everybody understands Law and work. You must work, they say. You must obey the Law. You must do this and you must do that. It doesn't take the Holy Spirit to understand work. And that is where the curse lies. It does take the Holy Spirit to understand Grace, and that is where the blessing is.

 

[Red33]

You flat out ignore what I am plainly saying in regards to the crucifixion of the flesh.

You flat out ignore that those that are in Christ HAVE crucified the passions and desires of the flesh.

You just ignore it completely and replace it with humanist rhetoric making all sin the same.

The Bible defines sin as...

Transgression
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


Doing wrong when you know to do right (transgression of conscience).
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.


Also what is not of faith is sin in the context of violating ones conscience.
Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

The sin that leads to death is WILLFUL REBELLION.

There was no sacrifice for willful rebellion under the Old Covenant.
Num 15:30 But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Num 15:31 Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.

The same principle exists under the New Covenant.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,


You hate the message of purity. You don't believe the message of purity.

Jesus came to make us pure.

Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

You deny that faith purifies the heart as it says in Acts 15:9. You believe everyone is defiled in their heart and that God cannot purify them because your jesus is an imaginary jesus with no power.

My God purifies those who abide in Him. Those whose eyes are single are indeed full of light.

Mat 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

You call Jesus a liar by saying that their hearts are still full of iniquity. You hold to a gospel of death and I won't tip toe around that fact.



I write a post about repentance, the crucifixion of the flesh and being raised by the power of God and you absolutely despise it and then proceed to argue in favour of sin.

Why not argue in favour of righteousness? You are terribly deceived.

If your heart was established in grace you would acknowledge the truth of the scripture but it would be done in the grace of God. The gospel of Christ is one of grace and truth and the message of the gospel of salvation is grace. The Spirit that God has given unto us by promise is the Spirit of grace. It is mercy and goodness (God's grace) that followed David all the days of his life and we have those same sure mercies (Acts 13:34). Most of the epistles are opened with grace and closed with the grace of God and even the last inspired scripture we read in Revelation 22:21 is a prayer of grace...The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all, Amen.

To know our Lord is to know Him as the God of all grace. Without the grace of God we would have never been forgiven or cleansed from our sin. Without grace we would have never been given the Holy Spirit. Without grace we would have no fellowship. Without grace there would be no believers and no body of Christ and no church. Without grace we would have no chance for a more abundant life. Without grace there would be no way to edify and build up other believers in Christ. Without grace there would be no throne of grace to obtain mercy and find grace to help in the time of need. Without grace we would have nothing to suffice us in our weakness. Without grace we would live in condemnation and have to depend upon the law. Without grace we would have no hope of salvation or eternal life. Get the picture and there is so much more about God's grace...

Eph 2:4-7

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

 

[cfultz3]

Great response, I believe you nailed him with that one.
Everything you said you had scripture to back it up, unlike someone else.

You seem to be a little better than this.

 

[cfultz3]

I ask everyone to ponder on what Skinski says:

If a sinner sins because that is how he was born then the sinner is not at fault. A sinner who believes such a thing cannot be truly sorry for their actions because the fault is placed on their condition at birth. In reality it is putting the blame of sin on God which is blasphemy.

This was said in affirmation of what he said

 

[GreenNnice]

Crucify the flesh by an act of the flesh... it doesn't work that way.

A person is in bondage to sin until they are saved by Grace. After the Lord saves a person from their Lust or their Anger or the other many plagues that beset him, they are no longer in bondage to it. A person cannot save themself, or they wouldn't need a Saviour. I need my Saviour. If you don't think you need a saviour then that is unfortunate for you. Very unfortunate indeed.

I wouldn't know why someone would rely on their own flesh instead of relying on the Lord Jesus. Unless they just don't know any better...

He is the Vine and we are the branches. We produce fruit because of what the Lord does in us. We don't produce fruit out of our own willpower except the "fruit" of the flesh.

Wolves devour sheep, keep that in mind. But they have to separate them from the Shepherd first.

What do sheep do? They keep their focus on the Shepherd and follow Him. As long as a sheep does this they are safe.

Very few people understand Grace, I have found. But just about everybody understands Law and work. You must work, they say. You must obey the Law. You must do this and you must do that. It doesn't take the Holy Spirit to understand work. And that is where the curse lies. It does take the Holy Spirit to understand Grace, and that is where the blessing is.

It takes the Holy Spirit to understand everything, do everything, we are dead to the flesh and doing things that are not of God once we become born again, all because of Calvary. Sounds like a song doesn't it

Not saying we are without sin once SAVED, we will sin no more, OH NO!, there are verses that say that anyone saying they do not sin is LYING . We do, in the Spirit, STILL mess up BUT Christ's blood covers us and the Spirit abiding in us will keep us blessed from KNOWING that we know that what we do is forgotten as soon as CONFESSION comes . God is JUST , God is faithful , forgives us our sins, again and again and again......Grace and mercy, it is unending, from our Father God, who's great plan conquered the LAW of SIN and DEATH !! Overcame. Thanks be to Jesus. Thank you, Lord
We need to embrace and GRIP and accept the sacrifice of God's Son, for IF we do not, , then we do NOT treasure and understand the work on the cross, it was all for NAUGHT

 

[feedm3]

You seem to be a little better than this.

what do you mean? I liked his response, thought it was well organized and scriptural. Don't really get what your saying or meaning I guess.

 

[feedm3]

It takes the Holy Spirit to understand everything, do everything, we are dead to the flesh and doing things that are not of God once we become born again, all because of Calvary. Sounds like a song doesn't it

Not saying we are without sin once SAVED, we will sin no more, OH NO!, there are verses that say that anyone saying they do not sin is LYING . We do, in the Spirit, STILL mess up BUT Christ's blood covers us and the Spirit abiding in us will keep us blessed from KNOWING that we know that what we do is forgotten as soon as CONFESSION comes . God is JUST , God is faithful , forgives us our sins, again and again and again......Grace and mercy, it is unending, from our Father God, who's great plan conquered the LAW of SIN and DEATH !! Overcame. Thanks be to Jesus. Thank you, Lord
We need to embrace and GRIP and accept the sacrifice of God's Son, for IF we do not, , then we do NOT treasure and understand the work on the cross, it was all for NAUGHT

I think many on here must be confused in what we are teaching concerning repentance.

No one is sinless - Rom 3:23. No one is perfect as Christ was.
I am not saying if you commit a sin after becoming a Christian you are no longer saved.

There is a difference in living in sin, and falling short and committing a sin.

Homosexuals for example:
If a gay man becomes a Christian, he must repent of being gay and walk in adherence to God's word.

If he falls during his Christian walk, and commits a sin, he needs to repent again and ask for forgiveness.

Yet if he chooses to go back to being gay, and continues this, he has not repented, therefore he is no longer walking in the light and the blood of Christ is not cleansing his homosexual sin, he is in danger, until he repents of this.

And this goes for any other sins, we may find ourselves committing.

II Pet 3:9, God wants us all to repent. Everyday He allows the world to continue is because of his long-suffering and Him giving all who hear the truth a chance to repent. Yet one day it will be too late for many.

 

[cfultz3]

what do you mean? I liked his response, thought it was well organized and scriptural. Don't really get what your saying or meaning I guess.

I am saying, is it all about getting one up on another or conveying the Truth?

Originally Posted by feedm3

Great response, I believe you nailed him with that one.
Everything you said you had scripture to back it up, unlike someone else.