lets all sin!!!!!!

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hislastwalk

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without Jesus none of it works, you cannot get into heaven if you do not turn to Him, repent, do the will of our Father.

and yes people can change, as you said you were gay. is that not change? I used to watch porn.

if we can't change or do not need to change Paul would not bother bringing up the carnal nature of the brothers in Corinth.

Its talking about practicing righteousness and lawlessness that get people to ask themselves and analyze themselves. I don’t care if someone wants to say they are a believer and racist, its not my job to say your racist!!!! but go over the bible and talk with others I must. I don’t go telling nonbelievers your going to hell because you do such and such. But its clear that any false followers are going to hell, our Lord made it clear.
You can't change unless Christ changes you.
 
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I'm through. If you're gonna keep a veil & keep missing the point, why should I try?

The point is: Paul pointed out sin, but He gave the solution in verse 11. That you can ONLY truly overcome sin by JESUS making you righteous.
the subject i was talking about is what is considered judging, i was not talking about what he was talking about in 9-11 it is about what he said(his comment) in that one small part if you cannot understand the point i am trying to make i do not know how else to explain. i get your point if i was talking about the subject in 9-11, but im talking about the coment he made not subject of the scripture
 
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hislastwalk

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the biggest way the spirit of anti-christ has worked into the church is by leaving the gospel out. The spirit of anti-christ points out sin but never mentions Jesus. Why would the enemy do that?

Because Jesus making you righteous is the only solution. So the enemy tries to make you feel guilty for your sins without giving you the solution. So He keeps you bound without knowing you're bound.
 
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GreenNnice

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The anti Christ does not tell people to seek our Lord and strive to be pleasing to Him. it tells them your sins are covered because you believe, now that that’s done nothing else is expected of us. do not bother to understand what offends Him because it does not matter we are saved anyway says the anti christ.........
What?

Do you think anyone here is saying this??? You keep repeating it as if some on this board are teaching that you can sin all you want because Chirst has paid for all your sins. I don't see anyone here advocating that. We have all pretty much said then when God saves us we will live as close to Him as we can, and put to death any besetting sin.
I just don't get what you're trying to convince us of. Maybe if you made one post detailing what you are trying to say, and what consequnces/results/ effects it will have for us.
I am not mocking you, I really want to know why you continually bring this up when we all agree that to go on sinning after being saved is not Biblical.
God bless.

Tom
Yes. All of this. Christ has paid for ALL your sins,VII . The Holy Spirit in you keeps you from sin, sin does not abide in you because you are in Him, once you have been born again of Christ, baptized in the Holy Spirit.

I'm through. If you're gonna keep a veil & keep missing the point, why should I try?

The point is: Paul pointed out sin, but He gave the solution in verse 11. That you can ONLY truly overcome sin by JESUS making you righteous.
Yes, through Jesus' Way, we are NO LONGER dead in our sins, in fact, as 1 John 3:6 says, we are dead to our sins, as in, we don't feel them anymore, the Spirit keeps us from them hurting us because of Christ's act on the cross. We are ALIVE forevermore in Christ Jesus and will sin no more. We will be with the Holy Spirit leading our life and, sure, we have human nature, and, will make mistakes but, in Christ, scripture is clear, those who abide in Christ sin NO more.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Jesus took away the sins of the world, and, there is only grace, only Love, now, and, the mercy of our Father in heaven, that is enough, that is all :) Quit trying, VII, to seperate Christ from sinful man, it can't be done, Christ died for sinful man, that sinful man could be set freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Praise God !

You're freee, VII, the law of sin and death was conQuered by Christ Jesus :)
 
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Do you think anyone here is saying this??? You keep repeating it as if some on this board are teaching that you can sin all you want because Chirst has paid for all your sins. I don't see anyone here advocating that. We have all pretty much said then when God saves us we will live as close to Him as we can, and put to death any besetting sin.
I just don't get what you're trying to convince us of. Maybe if you made one post detailing what you are trying to say, and what consequnces/results/ effects it will have for us.
I am not mocking you, I really want to know why you continually bring this up when we all agree that to go on sinning after being saved is not Biblical.
God bless.

Tom
i said that because i was responding to his anti Christ coment not to just randomly say it
 
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What?



Yes. All of this. Christ has paid for ALL your sins,VII . The Holy Spirit in you keeps you from sin, sin does not abide in you because you are in Him, once you have been born again of Christ, baptized in the Holy Spirit.



Yes, through Jesus' Way, we are NO LONGER dead in our sins, in fact, as 1 John 3:6 says, we are dead to our sins, as in, we don't feel them anymore, the Spirit keeps us from them hurting us because of Christ's act on the cross. We are ALIVE forevermore in Christ Jesus and will sin no more. We will be with the Holy Spirit leading our life and, sure, we have human nature, and, will make mistakes but, in Christ, scripture is clear, those who abide in Christ sin NO more.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Jesus took away the sins of the world, and, there is only grace, only Love, now, and, the mercy of our Father in heaven, that is enough, that is all :) Quit trying, VII, to seperate Christ from sinful man, it can't be done, Christ died for sinful man, that sinful man could be set freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Praise God !

You're freee, VII, the law of sin and death was conQuered by Christ Jesus :)
seperate Christ from the sinful man????????
yes He died for our sins i never said He did not.
what are you getting at?
 
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GreenNnice

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seperate Christ from the sinful man????????
yes He died for our sins i never said He did not.
what are you getting at?
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GreenNnice: Jesus took away the sins of the world, and, there is only grace, only Love, now, and, the mercy of our Father in heaven, that is enough, that is all :) Quit trying, VII, to seperate Christ from sinful man, it can't be done, Christ died for sinful man, that sinful man could be set freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Praise God !

You're freee, VII, the law of sin and death was conQuered by Christ Jesus
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Yes, Christ is different from man, He is the Lamb of God, THE sacrifice for the sins of the world, so that man could have a relationship with God through the Holy Spirit received in baptism to the born again believer.

VII, this is HOW SIMPLE it is to understand that once with Christ we are not without sin but we no longer sin because the Spirit leads us to be dead to our sinful flesh and believers realize that when they do sin, it is COVERED by Christ's act of Love, the blood of Christ covers us, it is enough . The power of God is sooo great, VII , it is freeeing, with Christ's death captitvity was no longer captive, the prisoners were set FREE when Christ arose from the grave. The veil SPLIT and the saints rose, to ROAM AND REIGN with Jesus !! They did not ever never EVER die again . Scripture is clear, there is no record of the saints dying AFTER scripture says 'the dead saints' arose . :)

For those who accept Christ, receive baptism of the Holy Spirit, there life is CHANGED, eternally forever blessed with great heavenly CHANGE :) . Christ changes them, transforms them so that it is no longer they who live (in the bodily flesh) but it is Christ who lives in them :) It is hard to understand, takes faith to understand the power of the cross to see that sin is no longer wanted done. Do we fail, do we fall still? Sure. We sin, ALL the time, (For all have sinned and fall short of the glory ofGod, Romans scripture says) but CHRIST'S ACT covers us, ALL our sin of the past, of the present, of the future. Sure, say ' Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ! ' We are covered by the blood of the Lamb, we have been redeemed and sin does not NO longer have a hold on us, not one bit. None. Nada. Zip. :)
 
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Yes, Christ is different from man, He is the Lamb of God, THE sacrifice for the sins of the world, so that man could have a relationship with God through the Holy Spirit received in baptism to the born again believer.

VII, this is HOW SIMPLE it is to understand that once with Christ we are not without sin but we no longer sin because the Spirit leads us to be dead to our sinful flesh and believers realize that when they do sin, it is COVERED by Christ's act of Love, the blood of Christ covers us, it is enough . The power of God is sooo great, VII , it is freeeing, with Christ's death captitvity was no longer captive, the prisoners were set FREE when Christ arose from the grave. The veil SPLIT and the saints rose, to ROAM AND REIGN with Jesus !! They did not ever never EVER die again . Scripture is clear, there is no record of the saints dying AFTER scripture says 'the dead saints' arose . :)

For those who accept Christ, receive baptism of the Holy Spirit, there life is CHANGED, eternally forever blessed with great heavenly CHANGE :) . Christ changes them, transforms them so that it is no longer they who live (in the bodily flesh) but it is Christ who lives in them :) It is hard to understand, takes faith to understand the power of the cross to see that sin is no longer wanted done. Do we fail, do we fall still? Sure. We sin, ALL the time, (For all have sinned and fall short of the glory ofGod, Romans scripture says) but CHRIST'S ACT covers us, ALL our sin of the past, of the present, of the future. Sure, say ' Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ! ' We are covered by the blood of the Lamb, we have been redeemed and sin does not NO longer have a hold on us, not one bit. None. Nada. Zip. :)
Alright so not to come off saying this is what you believe or accuse anything just trying to understand any view out there and the requierments with worldly examples (so people do not get upiddy and say i am twisting there belief)

so a hypothetical, if a racist claims to be saved by grace, and believes in our Lord Jesus Christ then later drags a guy behind his truck. Then hits a tree and dies, his sins are covers and he enters heaven or no?
 
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mmlj29

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so a hypothetical, if a racist claims to be saved by grace, and believes in our Lord Jesus Christ then later drags a guy behind his truck. Then hits a tree and dies, his sins are covers and he enters heaven or no?
1Jn 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
 
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hislastwalk

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#71
1Jn 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
It all comes down to judging them by their fruit. :) great verse bro.
 
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Another hypothetical, if a person claims have grace and believe but every month they go out of town and buy a hooker on a business trip and leave the wife at home. They say the same prayer each night saying God help me wake up refreshed and forgive me for my sins. With no plan, desire, or attempt to stop getting hookers. One day he gets killed by a pimp for trying to dine and dash. Would he be covered as well?
 
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hislastwalk

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#75
that is my point as well! thank you!! could you please elaborate on that.
I think Romans 6 is a perfect example.

Romans 6:1-2 ESV

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?

Those who are truly in Christ are a new creation.
 
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I think Romans 6 is a perfect example.

Romans 6:1-2 ESV

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?

Those who are truly in Christ are a new creation.
so far we agree!! :) :)
 
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hislastwalk

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Another hypothetical, if a person claims have grace and believe but every month they go out of town and buy a hooker on a business trip and leave the wife at home. They say the same prayer each night saying God help me wake up refreshed and forgive me for my sins. With no plan, desire, or attempt to stop getting hookers. One day he gets killed by a pimp for trying to dine and dash. Would he be covered as well?
Well lets see. If he was honestly trying to stop, yes. I use to look at porn, I struggled. God knew my struggle. If I was to slip up and look at porn (which I have before) I tell Him thank you for forgiving me, I renew my mind, & crucify my flesh. We all struggle. &God understands our struggles.
 
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VII

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Well lets see. If he was honestly trying to stop, yes. I use to look at porn, I struggled. God knew my struggle. If I was to slip up and look at porn (which I have before) I tell Him thank you for forgiving me, I renew my mind, & crucify my flesh. We all struggle. &God understands our struggles.
yes, if he fights against it but we must fight the good fight correct?
 
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VII

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i know its hard, i was close to putting a knife through my laptop to keep from it because i kept falling back into it
 
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hislastwalk

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yes, if he fights against it but we must fight the good fight correct?
Yes.
It's one thing to accept porn, homosexuality, etc as ok, but it's another to admit you have a problem, and give it to Jesus. He knows our hearts.