LIFE UNDER THE NEW COVENANT :)
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I'd love to add to this thread Joaniemarie. I wrote something on my blog while I was listening to one of the sermons from the Grace Capsule by Pastor Prince. Here's a shortened version.
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Hebrews 8:7-12
"For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
In here, we can see that God has replaced the old covenant (the law, in which man works to gain righteousness – the ten commandments, as well as the ceremonial offerings, etc) with a new one. You know, I used to think there was no difference. Heck, I used to not think about any of this at all.
In the old covenant, God expected man to do (or not do) stuff and man gets blessed or cursed depending on what he has and has not done. This is still the typical Christian’s mindset today. We try to be good to other people or do good things, so we get good things in return. The same is true otherwise. We do bad things and bad things happen to us. We call this “Karma.” Some call it the world’s system of merit. This is what we all grew up with. In school, we have to study a lot so we get good grades. When we grow up and start working, we perform well to get promoted.
This is what man knows to do and he applies it to everything in his life.
However, God knew, even if we don’t, that man, in all his effort and good deeds, is unable to and could not possibly work his way to get all the good things God has in store for him. Not to mention, man could not even dream of saving himself, when he finds out all the charges against him, from death. Eternal death, that is. (Romans 6:23)
God is righteous. He could not, and will not break His law. That is contrary to who He is. When the law, the old covenant, was in operation, God could not bless people whenever He pleased. It all depended on if they kept the law and met the requirements. In the same way, God could not spare man from punishment even if He wanted to. There are many examples of this in the days after the law was given. One that stands out to me was Uzzah. He was struck dead after touching the ark of the covenant. He was trying to help carry it. It was a good deed, but he was punished.
God is righteous and just, but God is also love. This is where the Cross comes in.
God so loved the world that He gave His only Son Jesus to die on the Cross. For what, exactly? See here, God did something that would save man without being unjust and unrighteous in His decision. God could have easily forgiven man without sending Jesus to die. But that would make Him an unrighteous God, an unjust ruler. Why does this matter? It matters because, then, the judgement on Lucifer would have been wrong. If God was unrighteous (I speak in human terms) in dealing with men, He would be unrighteous in dealing with Satan. And this matters to us, because then, there will be no wrong, and no right. My simple mind cannot fathom the depths of that earth-shattering thought.
God did something that is both righteous and good. It is both logical and positive with the end result of saving man. He took all of man’s unrighteousness, sins, iniquities, all of man’s wrongs and placed the judgement on one righteous Man and the son of God, for that matter, ruler of the never-ending universe. In the old law, a man’s offence is covered by the sacrificial death of an innocent. However, there was no one innocent in the human race. Even a baby has the blood of a sinner running in his veins. This is why, Jesus came to earth and became human. Himself, the Son of God. He was born of a virgin and there was no sin in His blood.
"He did no sin. In Him there was no sin. He knew no sin."
As the perfect sacrifice, Jesus died (even, having died by crucifixion matters to us, but it will be another topic), once and for all, freeing man from the judgement of God’s law, which is death, as well as from all the curses from the old covenant. In the same way, now, because of Jesus, God has given us all the blessings of the righteous person (that righteous person, Jesus, in our place). This is good news. This is the gospel.
Now then, what do we make of this? The good news is, now you don’t shoulder the burden of guilt, shame and condemnation for being unrighteous. The Lord is your righteousness. That means, what? That means, the gap that separates us from God has been Crossed. Pun intended. He is on your side. Whatever you have done and whatever you will do has all been righteously judged at the Cross.
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Hebrews 8:7-12
"For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
In here, we can see that God has replaced the old covenant (the law, in which man works to gain righteousness – the ten commandments, as well as the ceremonial offerings, etc) with a new one. You know, I used to think there was no difference. Heck, I used to not think about any of this at all.
In the old covenant, God expected man to do (or not do) stuff and man gets blessed or cursed depending on what he has and has not done. This is still the typical Christian’s mindset today. We try to be good to other people or do good things, so we get good things in return. The same is true otherwise. We do bad things and bad things happen to us. We call this “Karma.” Some call it the world’s system of merit. This is what we all grew up with. In school, we have to study a lot so we get good grades. When we grow up and start working, we perform well to get promoted.
This is what man knows to do and he applies it to everything in his life.
However, God knew, even if we don’t, that man, in all his effort and good deeds, is unable to and could not possibly work his way to get all the good things God has in store for him. Not to mention, man could not even dream of saving himself, when he finds out all the charges against him, from death. Eternal death, that is. (Romans 6:23)
God is righteous. He could not, and will not break His law. That is contrary to who He is. When the law, the old covenant, was in operation, God could not bless people whenever He pleased. It all depended on if they kept the law and met the requirements. In the same way, God could not spare man from punishment even if He wanted to. There are many examples of this in the days after the law was given. One that stands out to me was Uzzah. He was struck dead after touching the ark of the covenant. He was trying to help carry it. It was a good deed, but he was punished.
God is righteous and just, but God is also love. This is where the Cross comes in.
God so loved the world that He gave His only Son Jesus to die on the Cross. For what, exactly? See here, God did something that would save man without being unjust and unrighteous in His decision. God could have easily forgiven man without sending Jesus to die. But that would make Him an unrighteous God, an unjust ruler. Why does this matter? It matters because, then, the judgement on Lucifer would have been wrong. If God was unrighteous (I speak in human terms) in dealing with men, He would be unrighteous in dealing with Satan. And this matters to us, because then, there will be no wrong, and no right. My simple mind cannot fathom the depths of that earth-shattering thought.
God did something that is both righteous and good. It is both logical and positive with the end result of saving man. He took all of man’s unrighteousness, sins, iniquities, all of man’s wrongs and placed the judgement on one righteous Man and the son of God, for that matter, ruler of the never-ending universe. In the old law, a man’s offence is covered by the sacrificial death of an innocent. However, there was no one innocent in the human race. Even a baby has the blood of a sinner running in his veins. This is why, Jesus came to earth and became human. Himself, the Son of God. He was born of a virgin and there was no sin in His blood.
"He did no sin. In Him there was no sin. He knew no sin."
As the perfect sacrifice, Jesus died (even, having died by crucifixion matters to us, but it will be another topic), once and for all, freeing man from the judgement of God’s law, which is death, as well as from all the curses from the old covenant. In the same way, now, because of Jesus, God has given us all the blessings of the righteous person (that righteous person, Jesus, in our place). This is good news. This is the gospel.
Now then, what do we make of this? The good news is, now you don’t shoulder the burden of guilt, shame and condemnation for being unrighteous. The Lord is your righteousness. That means, what? That means, the gap that separates us from God has been Crossed. Pun intended. He is on your side. Whatever you have done and whatever you will do has all been righteously judged at the Cross.
I've been posting on 2 threads tonight and meant to post this here but posted it on the wrong one. So here it is in answer to whether the 10 commandments are written on our hearts or not. An excellent read!!
“This is the covenant I will make with them after that time,” says the Lord. “I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds.” (Heb 10:16)
“This is obviously a reference to the law of Moses,” says the law-preacher. “The Ten Commandments were written in stone, now they’re written in the hearts and minds of God’s people.”
Not true. Here are seventeen reasons why God has not written the Ten Commandments on your heart:
1. The law inflames sin (Rom 5:20) and the strength of sin is the law (1 Cor 15:56). Why would God want to stir up sin in your life?
2. The law condemns (2 Cor 3:9), yet there is no condemnation to those in Christ.
3. The law ministers death (2 Cor 3:7), but God wants you to enjoy abundant life.
4. Law and grace don’t mix. You are under grace, not law (Rom 6:14).
5. Living by the law will alienate you from Christ (Gal 5:4).
6. Living by the law is cheating on Jesus (Rom 7). Why would God do anything to encourage spiritual adultery?
7. We’re to live by faith but the law is not of faith (Gal 3:12). The law encourages us to depend on ourselves instead of Jesus.
8. Those who live under the law are under a curse (Gal 3:10). Why would God curse those he has blessed?
9. The law binds and enslaves (Rom 7:6), but Jesus wants you free.
10. The law keeps you immature for it makes nothing perfect or complete (Heb 7:19).
11. We have died to the law so that we may serve in the new way of the Spirit and “not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6).
12. When there has been a change of priesthood, the law must be changed also (Heb 7:12). For God to write the old law on our hearts would be like saying Aaron is greater than Jesus.
13. God found fault with the law-keeping covenant and made it obsolete (Heb 8:7,13). Why would God insult his Son’s sacrifice by giving you the very thing his sacrifice rendered obsolete?
14. The law is a shadow of the good things to come and not the reality (Heb 10:1). Why would God give you the shadow instead of “the good thing”?
15. The Jews considered the law to be ordained by angels (Heb 2:2). If so, says the author of Hebrews, then it is inferior to the gospel of Jesus (Heb 1:4). Why would God give you an inferior gift?
16. Some Christians think that God gives them the law as a guide to live by, but why would God want you to repeat the mistake of the Galatians (Gal 3:2)? Why would God do anything to make you fall from grace?
17. The old law-keeping covenant required an accounting or remembering of sin, but the new covenant is characterized by God forgiving and forgetting on account of Jesus (Heb 10:17). If the law that God writes in our hearts is the law of Moses, then Jesus
died for nothing.
If God has written the Ten Commandments on your heart and mind, you should be able to list all ten with no trouble. Can you? What’s the seventh commandment? You can’t do it because it’s not there, and a very good thing that is too! If the law that God writes in our hearts is the law of Moses, you’re in big trouble.
I very much appreciate Paul Ellis. I'm really thankful that Grace777 introduced me to this man's website. I don't agree with everything P.Ellis says especially about the Rapture of the church., but I see we have some major common ground to stand on together in many of the other things he writes on about the new covenant especially.
Well, if faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Spirit of Truth, then how can the eternal 10 Commandments become obsolete?
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
Seeing that this the first ONE of the Commandments, I hope you hear the other NINE.
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
Seeing that this the first ONE of the Commandments, I hope you hear the other NINE.
Hi Zmouth...I have to skip over your post many times due to your font being so small...I am one of those ladies who wears glasses, I do not like skipping past post with small font because there is always a chance that I miss a little gem...Would you please change your font size , am sure many feel the same but just carry on scrolling past your post
...Sent with love...xox...
...Sent with love...xox...AbigailZ has an excellent grasp of what the Good news is. You just didn't read her posts. She is very clear as a matter of fact. I don't see anywhere in her posts where she ever said she gets whatever she asks for.... or about being victorious in material things such as society or in worldly work. She knows being victorious in those things is an out flowing of faith in Christ because He is the one who gives the victory in those things too.
Her posts are very clear and obvious in that regard. You keep missing it because you are so busy
trying to throw old sour wet blankets on everyone's faith and joy. That is not a blessed past time.
The only way my dear is through Faith that worketh by love.. so it is only through Spirit and Truth for that is the power of GOD.
The Glory is GOD's because from being dead in my trespasses I was Baptized by the Holy Spirit and can walk in the newness of by Christ within.
Loved and forgiven to love and forgive..
I don't need a false Gospel for GOD shared His Truth and I will relay it freely and there are many here who share the Everlasting Gospel.
I once too had my fleshy ears itched by this type of stuff.. but GOD be thanked He gave me a New Spirit and shed His Love upon me.
The Glory is GOD's because from being dead in my trespasses I was Baptized by the Holy Spirit and can walk in the newness of by Christ within.
Loved and forgiven to love and forgive..
I don't need a false Gospel for GOD shared His Truth and I will relay it freely and there are many here who share the Everlasting Gospel.
I once too had my fleshy ears itched by this type of stuff.. but GOD be thanked He gave me a New Spirit and shed His Love upon me.
Would you agree that man could not keep the Ten Commandments perfectly?ALL the law and the prophets are summed up In one word,love.
That would be the two commandments ,love GOD and love your neighbor.Someone might ask,how do love GOD and love your neighbor If man loved darkness?Answer=we love because GOD first loved us.JESUS kept the Ten Commandments and those born of Incorruptible seed are then able to love GOD and their neighbor.
You are going to have to understand what In CHRIST and CHRIST In us means.CHRIST Is the vine,we,the branches RECEIVING sustenance from the vine,displaying spiritual fruit.
That would be the two commandments ,love GOD and love your neighbor.Someone might ask,how do love GOD and love your neighbor If man loved darkness?Answer=we love because GOD first loved us.JESUS kept the Ten Commandments and those born of Incorruptible seed are then able to love GOD and their neighbor.
You are going to have to understand what In CHRIST and CHRIST In us means.CHRIST Is the vine,we,the branches RECEIVING sustenance from the vine,displaying spiritual fruit.
Galatians 3:22-25 22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
That was the law's purpose.
Romans 10:3-4 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
This is the result of failing to believe the gospel of Jesus and explains what has become of the law.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
That was the law's purpose.
Romans 10:3-4 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
This is the result of failing to believe the gospel of Jesus and explains what has become of the law.
Not a single person has ever been made righteous while living under the covenant of the law. Even David failed and he was a man after God's own heart. We Christians need to realize every day we can't be made righteous by our adherence to the laws written on tablets of stone.
Please do not take my posts in the wrong way. I am only written this as a help for you as you seek Jesus through His Word. I probably do not need to post any further in relation to the OP as I have already shared God’s Word in post # 14 and it has also been shared elsewhere by others and you have not received it.
I am happy to Share God's Word though if it may be a help to you and others as this is my duty of love from the one who loves all. I write this out of love and concern for you to consider. You quote yourself over the Word of God and point others to the teachings of man and the word of website instead of God’s Word. This alone should be a warning to all because it is only through God’s Word that we can find the one who loves all and it is only by faith in His Word that we see the power of Gods salvation.
He must increase and I must decrease because he is the Word we must by faith bring all to him because it is only there we can know God. Faith is the victory but only the blind see it. Only the sick hear him but many do not know the meaning. Only the mirror shows the way because narrow is the way and few there be that find it. Do you know the meaning?
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.
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[FONT="]Was listening to a message today on Romans 8:2
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2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. [FONT="]
Many Christians are still walking according to the old covenant of law trying to establish their own righteousness by it., when in fact Jesus has given us His righteousness and established us in Him.
Will post Romans 8:1-17 specifically looking at verse 1 and 2. The reason there is therefor now NO condemnation is because of verse 2...
for the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has SET YOU FREE from the law of sin and death.
I will continue to encourage believers here to step over that bar of the law and over to the new covenant of grace that makes the old covenant of law obsolete. But in doing so., I have to also tell you., even when we do step over to the truth., we are always going to be tempted to GO BACK to the old mindset that is established in the law to DO in order to BE righteous in Christ.
We have to daily keep going over to the truth that ONLY Christ makes us righteous before God.
Even when we read verses that seem to contradict the truth of Christ's imputed righteousness., we have to apply the finished work of the Cross each and every time.
[/FONT]8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law could not do, [SUP][a][/SUP]in that it was weak through the flesh, God, sending his own Son in the likeness of [SUP][b][/SUP]sinful flesh [SUP][c][/SUP]and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]that the [SUP][d][/SUP]ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For they that are after the flesh mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For the mind of the flesh is death; but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]because the mind of the flesh is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can it be:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]and they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwelleth in you, he that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead shall give life also to your mortal bodies [SUP][e][/SUP]through his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
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12 [/SUP]So then, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the [SUP][f][/SUP]deeds of the body, ye shall live.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For ye received not the spirit of bondage again unto fear; but ye received the spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified with him.
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2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. [FONT="]
Many Christians are still walking according to the old covenant of law trying to establish their own righteousness by it., when in fact Jesus has given us His righteousness and established us in Him.
Will post Romans 8:1-17 specifically looking at verse 1 and 2. The reason there is therefor now NO condemnation is because of verse 2...
for the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has SET YOU FREE from the law of sin and death.
I will continue to encourage believers here to step over that bar of the law and over to the new covenant of grace that makes the old covenant of law obsolete. But in doing so., I have to also tell you., even when we do step over to the truth., we are always going to be tempted to GO BACK to the old mindset that is established in the law to DO in order to BE righteous in Christ.
We have to daily keep going over to the truth that ONLY Christ makes us righteous before God.
Even when we read verses that seem to contradict the truth of Christ's imputed righteousness., we have to apply the finished work of the Cross each and every time.
[/FONT]8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law could not do, [SUP][a][/SUP]in that it was weak through the flesh, God, sending his own Son in the likeness of [SUP][b][/SUP]sinful flesh [SUP][c][/SUP]and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]that the [SUP][d][/SUP]ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For they that are after the flesh mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For the mind of the flesh is death; but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]because the mind of the flesh is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can it be:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]and they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwelleth in you, he that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead shall give life also to your mortal bodies [SUP][e][/SUP]through his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
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12 [/SUP]So then, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the [SUP][f][/SUP]deeds of the body, ye shall live.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For ye received not the spirit of bondage again unto fear; but ye received the spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified with him.
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Thank you for bringing this to my attention, they appear to be a large font on my screen so I pulled up this page on my phone and I see that they are extremely small as you stated. Hopefully, this will correct the small font. Again, thank you.
But again, how can the true word of God become obsolete if God is eternal?
But again, how can the true word of God become obsolete if God is eternal?