LIVING IN THE MILLENIA

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laymen

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The entire period between the ascension and return of Christ is the millennium. Christ is ruling now over a spiritual kingdom that will be immediately raptured at His return, and the new heavens and earth will then be in place.

This millennial kingdom’s temple is our bodies

1 Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?

When Jesus came, he eliminated the need for a temple (building) being in a single location. Christians became the temple of God, a house for his Holy Spirit. Because of his blood that made us clean, we can now be considered pure and holy enough to have God’s Spirit live in us.

Amillennialism is the position on eschatology that the “tribulation” period is 1st century history and that things will mostly continue as they are until Christ returns, with the gospel spreading widely in some places and being resisted in others. Which means that the millenium is much longer than an actual one thousand years

The Greek word in the bible translated as ‘thousand’ is choloi which actually indicates many thousand. The singular for thousand would have been chilias.

2 Peter 3:8 Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your ...
But you must not forget this one thing, dear friends: A day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day.

Amillennials do not look for signs of a great tribulation to come, we look for Christ. Maranatha
If your talking about it:
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The Holy Bible: King James Version. (1995). (electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version., Re 20:4). Bellingham WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

In Rev 20:6 Is clear the the thousand year reign is after the "first" Resurrection, the Resurrection of the saints.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with the Resurrected saints those who sleep in Jesus referring to 1 Thessalonians 4:14)

The millennium reign will be spent up in heaven in the New Jerusalem the city that Jesus goes to prepare for us in John 14:2), the only way that Satan can not deceive the nations any more till the millennium is done Rev 20:3 is if the Earth is empty. Meaning the unrighteous are destroyed "Dead" by the brightness of his coming 2 Thess 2:8) and all the saints are resurrected and those who remain on earth at the second coming will be caught up together with the resurrected, therefore the earth is empty no way for Satan to deceive any nation until the millennium is over.

If there is a first Resurrection for the Saints then its logical to note that there will be a 2nd Resurrection of the wicked (the dead that stand before God in Rev20:12) . Because after the millennium is over Satan will be released from his prison Rev 20:7 to deceive the nations witch are on the earth still. Then after this 2nd Resurrection (the wicked) they see the City of God Coming down from heaven Rev 21:2 with all the saints in it and go to make war and surrounded it and camp Rev 20:9. Then God cast Satan and all the wicked in the lake of fire for they have been judged Rev 20:12 . Then God will be able to wipe away every tear from our eyes and their will be no more sin and death and the world will be remade!

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that is part of the first resurrection!
 

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Yes. "chilia" and "chilias" are plural.

Rev20:2-7 uses "chilia" (6x) -

verse 2 - chilia - https://biblehub.com/text/revelation/20-2.htm

verse 3 - chilia - https://biblehub.com/text/revelation/20-3.htm

verse 4 - chilia - https://biblehub.com/text/revelation/20-4.htm

verse 5 - chilia - https://biblehub.com/text/revelation/20-5.htm

verse 6 - chilia - https://biblehub.com/text/revelation/20-6.htm

verse 7 - chilia - https://biblehub.com/text/revelation/20-7.htm



[another example... this one being "chilias" (also plural), re: "days"]

Rev12:6 -

"days [PL]

a thousand [chilias - PL]

two hundred [PL]

sixty [PL]"


____________

I've noted in past posts that any time a number is supplied with the word "years" (______ years [insert number in the blank]), the text means "THAT MANY years"

Yes "mia"(one/1) in this sentence https://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_peter/3-8.htm determines the number of chilia as one one thousand year day in prophetic time as God uses it(per Peter) and so there are seven prophetic days https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm (six days of creation and the seventh(millennial sabbath) and is why Jesus said that that "generation" of time https://biblehub.com/hebrew/8435.htm would not pass until everything he spoke of had come to pass.

So since they had ask him about an "age of time"(one of the seven days/one of the 7 one thousand year periods) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24-3.htm he answered their question by telling them that that generation(age, one of the days of the seven one thousand year days) in Mathew 24:34 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/24-34.htm would not pass until ect.

which many conclude to be the end of the world as in the ending of the sixth one thousand year days or others see it the end of the seventh(millennial) but I think it was that in the middle of the week of seven prophetic days(seven days of one thousand) that Jesus came,was crucified and the temple was destroyed.

That middle point then would then leave three and a half one thousand year days(counting the millennial Sabbath) from Christ coming,his death, and the destruction of the temple. So from the first century ad there would be approximately two and a half one thousand year days of time before the beginning of the Millennial Sabbath. But the days are cut short for the elects sake so less than two thousand five hundred years but by how much? https://biblehub.com/hosea/6-2.htm
 

Blain

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The tribulation is history (66-70AD), we are in the millennium now and will be until the rapture.
Did you even read the entire intro to this topic?
Yes I read it and that is why I spoke about what I did, if the tribulation already happened then tell me when did the antichrist make his appearance who was he when did he induce the mark in which everyone was required to wear to buy and sell when did he enter the third temple delcaring himself God?
 

GraceAndTruth

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And where please is Israel living in peace and where is the devil bound. ?
And where it is written that the Millenium is Spiritual and not literal?
Sorry, it seems you live not in the reality.
or you don't
 

GraceAndTruth

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Yes I read it and that is why I spoke about what I did, if the tribulation already happened then tell me when did the antichrist make his appearance who was he when did he induce the mark in which everyone was required to wear to buy and sell when did he enter the third temple delcaring himself God?
There is no THE antichrist.......if you think there is. then I hope you will enlighten me as to what verse says that THE ANTICHRIST makes an appearance.
 

GraceAndTruth

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And where please is Israel living in peace and where is the devil bound. ?
And where it is written that the Millenium is Spiritual and not literal?
Sorry, it seems you live not in the reality.
What would be your scripture references to those views?
 

laymen

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The entire period between the ascension and return of Christ is the millennium. Christ is ruling now over a spiritual kingdom that will be immediately raptured at His return, and the new heavens and earth will then be in place.

This millennial kingdom’s temple is our bodies

1 Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?

When Jesus came, he eliminated the need for a temple (building) being in a single location. Christians became the temple of God, a house for his Holy Spirit. Because of his blood that made us clean, we can now be considered pure and holy enough to have God’s Spirit live in us.

Amillennialism is the position on eschatology that the “tribulation” period is 1st century history and that things will mostly continue as they are until Christ returns, with the gospel spreading widely in some places and being resisted in others. Which means that the millenium is much longer than an actual one thousand years

The Greek word in the bible translated as ‘thousand’ is choloi which actually indicates many thousand. The singular for thousand would have been chilias.

2 Peter 3:8 Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your ...
But you must not forget this one thing, dear friends: A day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day.

Amillennials do not look for signs of a great tribulation to come, we look for Christ. Maranatha
Sorry you must find me boring zzz just hope you were able to read it all.
 

Blain

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There is no THE antichrist.......if you think there is. then I hope you will enlighten me as to what verse says that THE ANTICHRIST makes an appearance.
To be more precise he is officially known as the man of lawlessness

2 Thessalonians 2
The Man of Lawlessness
2 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers,[a] 2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness[b] is revealed, the son of destruction,[c] 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 

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Amillennialism is the position on eschatology that the “tribulation” period is 1st century history
Ahmillennialism has absolutely (Nothing) to do with interpretation of when a tribulation takes place.

Your 1st century claim is specifically a claim within (Preterism) & (Historicism)

Amillennialism deals specifically with Rev 20:1-6, and Amillennialist deny a (Literal) Millennium on earth is seen, (Nothing More)

I personally am a Amillennialist (Futurist), who dosent believe in a future Millennium.

I believe the Abomination of Daniel Matt 24:15, The Great Tribulation Matt 24:21, and Second Coming Matt 24:29-30 are all future events unfulfilled.

You have been shown this (Several Times) and continue teaching in error.

Wikipedia: Amillenarism or Amillennialism (from Latin mille, one thousand; "a" being a negation prefix) is a type of chillegorism which teaches that there will be no millennial reign of the righteous on earth.
 

GraceAndTruth

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To be more precise he is officially known as the man of lawlessness

2 Thessalonians 2
The Man of Lawlessness
2 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers,[a] 2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness[b] is revealed, the son of destruction,[c] 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
....and THE ANTICHRIST is where in the bible?
This person may be antichrist, but he is not THE ANTICHRIST because there is no THE ANTICHRIST.

And....this lawless person has been revealed by history to be NERO. Yes, Nero set himself up to be god, demanded worship of himself as god....and much more. I suggest you read about the history of that time.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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To be more precise he is officially known as the man of lawlessness
2 Thessalonians 2
The Man of Lawlessness
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9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
Yes, the words in v.9 are actually: "whose is the coming [arrival/presence/advent/parousia; SINGULAR]..." (speaking of the individual--just like Dan7:20 DESCRIBES an individual by saying "whose look is more stout than his fellows)...

...and we see this [SINGULAR] in 1Jn2:18 also, if we examine the verse carefully... which says, "[and AS] ye have heard that antichrist [singular] is coming [/comes - G2064], ALSO [kai] now antichrists [plural] have arisen [/come to be - perfect tense]"

...and when we examine this "ye have heard [G191 - ekousate]" word, we find that it is not speaking of mere rumour. (see this exact word 6x in the John epistles, and for example 5x in Matt5... vv.21, 27 [re: Lev18:1-30], 33 [re: Numb30:1-16], 38 [re: Ex21:24, Lev24:20, Deut19:21], 43)... Additionally, 2Jn1:7 uses the definite article ("the") alongside the word "antichrist" (supplying an identifying marker/description).

Back to 2Th2:9... this is parallel with several passage [about that same point in the chronology]: so 2Th2:9 ["whose COMING"] = "prince THAT SHALL COME" Dan9:26b; and Matt24:4 "G5100 - tis ['A CERTAIN ONE' (bringing deception)]--i.e. the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" of MANY MORE "birth pangS [PLURAL]" that Jesus spoke of that would follow on from that INITIAL birth pang; and Rev6:2 [where the SEALS of Rev6 are the equivalent of "the beginning of birth PANGS" Jesus spoke of... and where Rev1:1 says, "to shew unto His servants things which must come to pass [<---comp. 1:19c and 4:1] IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]..." (not adverbs like "soon" and "immediateLY")... [back soon to finish this thought...]
 

Blain

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....and THE ANTICHRIST is where in the bible?
This person may be antichrist, but he is not THE ANTICHRIST because there is no THE ANTICHRIST.

And....this lawless person has been revealed by history to be NERO. Yes, Nero set himself up to be god, demanded worship of himself as god....and much more. I suggest you read about the history of that time.
And did Nero enforce a mark on in which no one could buy or sell? Did he make a seven year covenant and break in after 3 years? Did he also have the false prophet and when he declared himself to be God did he specifically do so in the temple?
 

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And....this lawless person has been revealed by history to be NERO. Yes, Nero set himself up to be god, demanded worship of himself as god....and much more. I suggest you read about the history of that time.
Your claim is false, Nero committed suicide, he wasn't destroyed by the brightness of Jesus Christ at the second coming.

As is clearly seen, (The Man Of Sin) is a (Future) event unfulfilled.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 & 8-10KJV
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
 

GraceAndTruth

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When did this first resurrection occur, sometime after 70AD?
The first resurrection takes place in various stages. Jesus Christ Himself (the “first fruits,” (1 Corinthians 15-20,)
paved the way for the resurrection of all who believe in Him. There was a resurrection of the Jerusalem saints (Matthew 27:52-53) which should be included in our consideration of the first resurrection.

Still to come are the resurrection of “the dead in Christ” at the Lord’s return (1 Thessalonians 4:16) and the resurrection of the martyrs at the end of the Tribulation (Revelation 20:4).

Revelation 20:12-13 identifies those comprising the second resurrection as the wicked judged by God at the great white throne judgment prior to being cast into the lake of fire.

The second resurrection, then, is the raising of all unbelievers; the second resurrection is connected to the second death. It corresponds with Jesus’ teaching of the “resurrection of damnation” (John 5:29).
 

GraceAndTruth

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And did Nero enforce a mark on in which no one could buy or sell? Did he make a seven year covenant and break in after 3 years? Did he also have the false prophet and when he declared himself to be God did he specifically do so in the temple?
Now you are mixing apples and oranges and getting lemonade
 

GraceAndTruth

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Your claim is false, Nero committed suicide, he wasn't destroyed by the brightness of Jesus Christ at the second coming.

As is clearly seen, (The Man Of Sin) is a (Future) event unfulfilled.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 & 8-10KJV
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
YOU are wrong....Nero "committed suicide" with the HELP OF THE SENATE.......remember "et tu Brutus?"
All your theories are wrong but my daddy told me to never argue with stupid.
 

Blain

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Now you are mixing apples and oranges and getting lemonade
No what I am doing is mentioning the things revelation says he will do, read the book of revelation it's all there. You say Nero was this person but does it stand against scripture?