LIVING IN THE MILLENIA
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I believe Jesus' words in both Matt24:15 and Mk13:14 ("abomination [SINGULAR] of desolation [SINGULAR], spoken of by Daniel the prophet") refers us back to Daniel's chpt 12:11 "the abominaTION [SINGULAR] that maketh desolate SET UP [H5414]" and there supplies a specific set of "day-amounts" (1290 days).
Are you saying the "1290 days" are well under way, presently? And that "they which be in Judaea" have already done the "FLEE" (which pertains to the "1260 days" starting at mid-trib), or will very soon (like, within 30 days of the other)?
Are you saying the "1290 days" are well under way, presently? And that "they which be in Judaea" have already done the "FLEE" (which pertains to the "1260 days" starting at mid-trib), or will very soon (like, within 30 days of the other)?
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Strong’s Greek: 5505 chilias – one thousand
Strong's #5507: chilioi plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand:--thousand.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon:
chilioi
1) a thousand
Part of Speech: adjective
Relation: plural of uncertain affinity used in:
Revelation 20:2: "and bound him a thousand years,"
Revelation 20:3: "no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and"
Revelation 20:4: "and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Revelation 20:5: "lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This"
Revelation 20:6: "shall reign with him a thousand years."
Revelation 20:7: "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed"
Obviously some people do not understand the difference between 'single' and 'plural'
Strong's #5507: chilioi plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand:--thousand.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon:
chilioi
1) a thousand
Part of Speech: adjective
Relation: plural of uncertain affinity used in:
Revelation 20:2: "and bound him a thousand years,"
Revelation 20:3: "no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and"
Revelation 20:4: "and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Revelation 20:5: "lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This"
Revelation 20:6: "shall reign with him a thousand years."
Revelation 20:7: "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed"
Obviously some people do not understand the difference between 'single' and 'plural'
Flight to Pella
Jesus prophesied that the temple stones would be thrown down within a generation. He warned that the residents should flee Jerusalem to the mountains when they saw the Roman armies surrounding the city.
The armies surrounded the city in 67AD. The Christians in Jerusalem fled to Pella (which is in the mountains).
1290 days later the temple was destroyed. 45 days later the army left to go back to Rome.
1290 + 45 = 1335 the number of days in Daniel 12 that he who is blessed will attain after the tribulation.
(the abomination of desolation in Daniel 12 is an army. The Olivet Discourse harmonized in Matt and Luke show this as Luke calls it an army while Matt called it the AOD. The bible is always the best at interpreting the bible)
Jesus prophesied that the temple stones would be thrown down within a generation. He warned that the residents should flee Jerusalem to the mountains when they saw the Roman armies surrounding the city.
The armies surrounded the city in 67AD. The Christians in Jerusalem fled to Pella (which is in the mountains).
1290 days later the temple was destroyed. 45 days later the army left to go back to Rome.
1290 + 45 = 1335 the number of days in Daniel 12 that he who is blessed will attain after the tribulation.
(the abomination of desolation in Daniel 12 is an army. The Olivet Discourse harmonized in Matt and Luke show this as Luke calls it an army while Matt called it the AOD. The bible is always the best at interpreting the bible)
Im just wondering if people who teach that satan is bound so that gentiles will no longer be deceived realize gentiles are no longer deceived already BECAUSE OF WHAT OUR LORDS SACRIFICE DID
a light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of your people Israel. Lk.2:32
This false teaching that Jesus's sacrifice wasnt enough for nations to no longer be deceived is the most contemptible, vile, disgusting heresy in all of christiandom.
a light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of your people Israel. Lk.2:32
This false teaching that Jesus's sacrifice wasnt enough for nations to no longer be deceived is the most contemptible, vile, disgusting heresy in all of christiandom.
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Yeah this in particular was huge issue for my faith in particular the power of his sacrifice. I always believed you can lose your salvation and I always worry about sins and my imperfection any time I messed up I would be wounded inside and even begged father many many times in my desperate tears to have mercy and to not let me lose him but eventually it all began to become so intense inside me that I felt as if a huge dagger was peircing my soul digging deeper and deeper until I just broke completely
This was when a very dear friend of mine by the username lafftur who had always encouraged me and helped me when I was going through this season really showed me how his grace works and then it finally hit me about the power of his blood and once I understood this resting in his grace accepting the power of his blood I no longer was hurting inside I was no longer held by the chains I placed myself in
People never realize how far their teachings and words and beleifs can go in the hearts of his people I am a prime example of this. As far as being Jew or gentile the way I see it we are one in Christ and if satan was actually bound as to not decieve then I would not have been deceived into this kind of teaching that caused so much suffering fear and self damnation
This was when a very dear friend of mine by the username lafftur who had always encouraged me and helped me when I was going through this season really showed me how his grace works and then it finally hit me about the power of his blood and once I understood this resting in his grace accepting the power of his blood I no longer was hurting inside I was no longer held by the chains I placed myself in
People never realize how far their teachings and words and beleifs can go in the hearts of his people I am a prime example of this. As far as being Jew or gentile the way I see it we are one in Christ and if satan was actually bound as to not decieve then I would not have been deceived into this kind of teaching that caused so much suffering fear and self damnation
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I have said nothing in this entire thread by posting. What are you referring to?
Gentleness and respect allow (if we are right before the Lord) others to see our viewpoint much better than Luke 9:54.
Love is patient, love is kind.
Perhaps you quoted my by mistake?
I think your understanding of "a thousand" meaning thousands somehow is too esoteric to be accurate since babes should be able to understand scripture plainly. You also have people that have a pretty good grasp of Greek and Hebrew from what I've seen challenge your conclusion, so may I ask what you hope to gain here?
You want to hold that view privately go ahead...Maybe you feel that way in order to bring about his glory in your life in some way I cannot comprehend. But when you resort to getting "heated" with those who disagree with you from a sincere position on their part, it lends more credence that your view needs guidance from the Lord. If something or someone sows discord within the body, then it isn't from the Lord.
Method and manner do matter though even when we are wrong as believers.
Gentleness and respect allow (if we are right before the Lord) others to see our viewpoint much better than Luke 9:54.
Love is patient, love is kind.
Perhaps you quoted my by mistake?
I think your understanding of "a thousand" meaning thousands somehow is too esoteric to be accurate since babes should be able to understand scripture plainly. You also have people that have a pretty good grasp of Greek and Hebrew from what I've seen challenge your conclusion, so may I ask what you hope to gain here?
You want to hold that view privately go ahead...Maybe you feel that way in order to bring about his glory in your life in some way I cannot comprehend. But when you resort to getting "heated" with those who disagree with you from a sincere position on their part, it lends more credence that your view needs guidance from the Lord. If something or someone sows discord within the body, then it isn't from the Lord.
Method and manner do matter though even when we are wrong as believers.
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Then I suggest you get a linear bible and a Strong's concordance and look it up yourself. But to help you along:
Strong’s Greek: 5505 chilias – one thousand
Strong's #5507: chilioi (pronounced
plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand:--thousand.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon:
chilioi
1) a thousand
Part of Speech: adjective
Relation: plural of uncertain affinity
used in:
Revelation 20:2: "and bound him a thousand years,"
Revelation 20:3: "no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and"
Revelation 20:4: "and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Revelation 20:5: "lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This"
Revelation 20:6: "shall reign with him a thousand years."
Revelation 20:7: "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed"
Strong’s Greek: 5505 chilias – one thousand
Strong's #5507: chilioi (pronounced
plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand:--thousand.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon:
chilioi
1) a thousand
Part of Speech: adjective
Relation: plural of uncertain affinity
used in:
Revelation 20:2: "and bound him a thousand years,"
Revelation 20:3: "no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and"
Revelation 20:4: "and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Revelation 20:5: "lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This"
Revelation 20:6: "shall reign with him a thousand years."
Revelation 20:7: "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed"
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Im saying all those days must be included in the 70 weeks, because it is our dear Lord Jesus who put an end to sin, thereby putting an end to death, bringing in everlasting rightwousness.
The 1290 is probably the length of Christs ministry, who daily lived in sacrifice to his Father, but was opposed by the devils children, ending in their rejection of him, which is the abomination which causes desolation.
That Jesus was crucified, rejected (God's perspective of what unrepentant sinners did), in no way satisfies the wrath of God, but is the reason the unrepentant will face God's wrath.
But Christ freely offering himself (God's perspective of what his Son did) has everything to do with his pleasure.
I realize the 1335 days is only 45 days later, but I heard a disortation once on how it is speaking of Pentecost and I believe that's the correct interpretation. I'll see if I can find it.
The 1290 is probably the length of Christs ministry, who daily lived in sacrifice to his Father, but was opposed by the devils children, ending in their rejection of him, which is the abomination which causes desolation.
That Jesus was crucified, rejected (God's perspective of what unrepentant sinners did), in no way satisfies the wrath of God, but is the reason the unrepentant will face God's wrath.
But Christ freely offering himself (God's perspective of what his Son did) has everything to do with his pleasure.
I realize the 1335 days is only 45 days later, but I heard a disortation once on how it is speaking of Pentecost and I believe that's the correct interpretation. I'll see if I can find it.
I won't be deceived anymore because Jesus opened my eyes to the truth,
No man can enter into a strong man's (satans)house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man (satan), and then he will spoil his house. Mk.3:27
Whats up with the non Jewish stuff is that non jews, meaning the nations, meaning gentiles, who believe the gospel are no longer deceived by satan. He didnt mean everyone on earth will no longer be deceived.
No man can enter into a strong man's (satans)house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man (satan), and then he will spoil his house. Mk.3:27
Whats up with the non Jewish stuff is that non jews, meaning the nations, meaning gentiles, who believe the gospel are no longer deceived by satan. He didnt mean everyone on earth will no longer be deceived.
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If you think you will not be decieved anymore you are setting yourself up
For failure because we all still have the flesh and can be decieved or as Paul put it satan wants to devour us. How does he do it? By deception
The Bible says the nations will not be deceived let’s take him at his word
For failure because we all still have the flesh and can be decieved or as Paul put it satan wants to devour us. How does he do it? By deception
The Bible says the nations will not be deceived let’s take him at his word
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