Loss of salvation???
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Your comments regularly start with a jab. I dont know why you feel the need to do this.
I am not the only one who has made remarks. I would encourage you just to quote things you disagree with and state why. There is no need to suggest that someone “has no idea” how salvation works or that I cant grasp your points.
I am not the only one who has made remarks. I would encourage you just to quote things you disagree with and state why. There is no need to suggest that someone “has no idea” how salvation works or that I cant grasp your points.
I am not jabbing at you. I am making on observation based on your responses to what I say. You keep making statements that don't correlate with what I have said and you have not given a single answer to the verses that I raise regarding never dying, or never being cast out or being indwelt by the Holy Spirit and how you can cancel any of that by virtue of your will. The latter makes me question whether you understand what has happened to you. My queries are genuine because I'm concerned, not because I'm being a "smarty pants".
You misrepresent what I say or ignore the issues I raise and continue on your merry way. I have given an explanation of every question you have asked within the texts you have raised. You can disagree if you want but at least have the courtesy to give an answer to my questions in return.
Explain how you can extricate yourself from the hand of Christ. "No means" includes a believers abject failures.
John 6:37
All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.
Explain how you can die again spiritually (spiritual death is what we have been saved from) when Christ said those who believe in Him will never die.
John 11:26
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
Explain how you can evict the Holy Spirit who has made His home in you and sealed you for the day of Resurrection.
1 Corinthians 6:19
Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
Ephesians 4:30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Don't give me verses that talk about unbelievers, whom Christ never knew or those who are put on His left. These have never had salvation to begin with.
Look at the verses I raise and explain how God got it wrong by saving someone in the first place who He knew could not be saved or how your will can trump God's?
You misrepresent what I say or ignore the issues I raise and continue on your merry way. I have given an explanation of every question you have asked within the texts you have raised. You can disagree if you want but at least have the courtesy to give an answer to my questions in return.
Explain how you can extricate yourself from the hand of Christ. "No means" includes a believers abject failures.
John 6:37
All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.
Explain how you can die again spiritually (spiritual death is what we have been saved from) when Christ said those who believe in Him will never die.
John 11:26
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
Explain how you can evict the Holy Spirit who has made His home in you and sealed you for the day of Resurrection.
1 Corinthians 6:19
Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
Ephesians 4:30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Don't give me verses that talk about unbelievers, whom Christ never knew or those who are put on His left. These have never had salvation to begin with.
Look at the verses I raise and explain how God got it wrong by saving someone in the first place who He knew could not be saved or how your will can trump God's?