Making a case for women in leadership

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Aaron56 said:
Did you NOT mean that Eve's equality with Adam is important even though Christ did not think equality with God was something to be grasped?
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Jesus' concern wasn't to aspire for and obtain God's authority, but many 'authoritative' people marveled that He spoke with authority. If Peter's answer didn't bolster Him in any degree when He asked, "who do you say that I am?" nor would any other answer have discouraged Him of Who He Is.
 
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Karlon said:
1. i don't know what country you live in but pastoralship is a word in the u.s.a.
2. you are correct on straight. thanks.
3. 1st Corinthians 14:34 also teaches women are to be silent in the church. the word usurp is translated as "have". women are not to "have' authority over men. in the church.
4. if you read & understand these verses mentioned anyone will see women are to not be pastors.
5. Psalm 98:5- "sing unto the Lord with a harp, with a harp & the voice of a psalm". too, stringed instruments existed back then. there were 1 & 2 stringed instruments.
6. Adrian Rogers has a great teaching on women pastoralship. check it out. we are not getting along on this subject so let's part amicably. blessings to you.
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Regular context is missing on Corinthians. So is the historical context. So is the cultural context.
Please note that 3 major books are used: 1&2 Corinthians, Ephesians, & 1&2 Timothy, because he is the Overseer of the house churches of Ephesus.
IDOL WORSHIP involving women priests causes the new female christians to be liberal & unsubmissive To the Lord. This is found in both the cultural & historical context.
Another scripture's surrounding context shows the "women teaching men thing" was actually about wives were not to use authority over their husbands which in today's society is called 'henpecking' them. The man is the spiritual head of the house.
 
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I find it immature that people will not study to show themselves approved by God, but will parrot their favorite teacher/preacher without doing a single Berean search to prove anything.
Not only that, they will spit out single verses like a Rook player throwing a trump card to win a hand.:rolleyes:
 
Dino246

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Aaron56 said:
Perhaps I should have asked a clarifying question.

Can you explain what you meant by this:



Did you NOT mean that Eve's equality with Adam is important even though Christ did not think equality with God was something to be grasped?
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I believe that God created men and women as equals: spiritually, positionally, mentally, emotionally, and relationally. He made them different physically.

That Jesus did not "grasp" equality with God has no bearing on the nature of the two genders. It has little bearing on anything else outside of His identity during His earthly sojourn.
 
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NightTwister said:
It holds water everywhere, except with you.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - John 1:1 ESV
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, - 2 Timothy 3:16 ESV
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Show me the verse(s) in the Law to which Paul referred in 1 Cor 14:34, and I'll accept your position as sound.
 
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Edify said:
I find it immature that people will not study to show themselves approved by God, but will parrot their favorite teacher/preacher without doing a single Berean search to prove anything.
Not only that, they will spit out single verses like a Rook player throwing a trump card to win a hand.:rolleyes:
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Is it equally immature not to say who you believe these individuals are so they have opportunity to defend such claims?
 
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Out of all God's spiritual gifts, many believe to have Discernment.
That's actually not true, because most who claim to have it cannot discern the lack of humility & compassion in this thread.
Because of this, they can't see they're being reeled into an argument, destroying their christian character.
 
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Edify said:
Out of all God's spiritual gifts, many believe to have Discernment.
That's actually not true, because most who claim to have it cannot discern the lack of humility & compassion in this thread.
Because of this, they can't see they're being reeled into an argument, destroying their christian character.
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Please note that I'm not attempting to accuse anyone of anything.
My hope is that everyone would stop a minute to consider the lack of love, humility, and compassion that's in this thread right now & pray before your next post.:love:
 
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