many wives is this a sin?
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So is this the attack of the Mormons, or what?
(Meaning break-away Mormons! There was a group in Creston, BC, and the head man reserved all the young virgins for himself, and drove the young men off the commune so he was not in competition with them. I really can't think of anything more ungodly that the virtual rape of young women, because of the lust of a so-called "biblical male leader!)
(Meaning break-away Mormons! There was a group in Creston, BC, and the head man reserved all the young virgins for himself, and drove the young men off the commune so he was not in competition with them. I really can't think of anything more ungodly that the virtual rape of young women, because of the lust of a so-called "biblical male leader!)
QUOTE=Magenta;2773370]You are adding your opinion to Scripture while condemning others for doing so? Please give us a Scripture that specifically instructs men to commit polygamy. I would really like to see these phantom verses people go on about. Please keep in mind that I am not asking for verses describing polygamy as committed by sinful men. I am asking for God's instructions to men telling them to take multiple wives as a matter of course. To say it was allowed for is not to say it was prescribed unless you can show me otherwise. I would really appreciate it if you could.
For instance, here are some verses on polygamy, yet none of them are God telling man that it is okay.
Deuteronomy 17:17 - Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Exodus 21:10 - If he take him another [wife]; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.
1 Timothy 3:12 - Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
1 Kings 11:3 - And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.
1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
Deuteronomy 21:15 - If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, [both] the beloved and the hated; and [if] the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
2 Chronicles 24:1-3 - Joash [was] seven years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also [was] Zibiah of Beersheba.
Matthew 19:4-6 - And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [them] at the beginning made them male and female,
Deuteronomy 21:15-17 - If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, [both] the beloved and the hated; and [if] the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
1 Chronicles 3:1-9 - Now these were the sons of David, which were born unto him in Hebron; the firstborn Amnon, of Ahinoam the Jezreelitess; the second Daniel, of Abigail the Carmelitess:
Isaiah 4:1 - And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Judges 8:30 - And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.
2 Chronicles 11:21 - And Rehoboam loved Maachah the daughter of Absalom above all his wives and his concubines: (for he took eighteen wives, and threescore concubines; and begat twenty and eight sons, and threescore daughters.)
2 Chronicles 13:21 - But Abijah waxed mighty, and married fourteen wives, and begat twenty and two sons, and sixteen daughters.
Genesis 4:19 - And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one [was] Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
2 Samuel 12:8 - And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if [that had been] too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.
1 Kings 11:4 - For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, [that] his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as [was] the heart of David his father.
Deuteronomy 25:5-10 - If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
1 Chronicles 4:5 - And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.
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Can yo tell me in these verses who gave david wives?
*[[2Sa 12:7-9/KJV]]* %v 7% And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; %v 8% And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things. %v 9% Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.
For instance, here are some verses on polygamy, yet none of them are God telling man that it is okay.
Deuteronomy 17:17 - Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Exodus 21:10 - If he take him another [wife]; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.
1 Timothy 3:12 - Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
1 Kings 11:3 - And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.
1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
Deuteronomy 21:15 - If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, [both] the beloved and the hated; and [if] the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
2 Chronicles 24:1-3 - Joash [was] seven years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also [was] Zibiah of Beersheba.
Matthew 19:4-6 - And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [them] at the beginning made them male and female,
Deuteronomy 21:15-17 - If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, [both] the beloved and the hated; and [if] the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
1 Chronicles 3:1-9 - Now these were the sons of David, which were born unto him in Hebron; the firstborn Amnon, of Ahinoam the Jezreelitess; the second Daniel, of Abigail the Carmelitess:
Isaiah 4:1 - And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Judges 8:30 - And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.
2 Chronicles 11:21 - And Rehoboam loved Maachah the daughter of Absalom above all his wives and his concubines: (for he took eighteen wives, and threescore concubines; and begat twenty and eight sons, and threescore daughters.)
2 Chronicles 13:21 - But Abijah waxed mighty, and married fourteen wives, and begat twenty and two sons, and sixteen daughters.
Genesis 4:19 - And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one [was] Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
2 Samuel 12:8 - And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if [that had been] too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.
1 Kings 11:4 - For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, [that] his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as [was] the heart of David his father.
Deuteronomy 25:5-10 - If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
1 Chronicles 4:5 - And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.
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Can yo tell me in these verses who gave david wives?
*[[2Sa 12:7-9/KJV]]* %v 7% And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; %v 8% And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things. %v 9% Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.
Something is strange. Watcher2013 shows up out of nowhere in almost a year's time to post a controversial question... of which he evidently is already convinced he knows the answer. So it doesn't take a scholar to figure out the op is just to stir up a debate, something we are told in the Word not to do:
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
He also has posted nothing but controversial posts in past times, asking questions to coax members to respond in order that he may contradict them with his own interpretation.
In this instance, we read in I Timothy 3 that in order to hold a leadership or teaching position in the church, a man must be "blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach..."
It's pretty clear, if you want to teach, you should have one spouse. I'm sure the Holy Spirit knows best how we should conduct our lives as witnesses unto the world.
Also, it seems Watcher2013 is looking for loopholes to justify having more than one wife. I see in his profile he is married. Perhaps he should ask his wife what she thinks about it.
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
He also has posted nothing but controversial posts in past times, asking questions to coax members to respond in order that he may contradict them with his own interpretation.
In this instance, we read in I Timothy 3 that in order to hold a leadership or teaching position in the church, a man must be "blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach..."
It's pretty clear, if you want to teach, you should have one spouse. I'm sure the Holy Spirit knows best how we should conduct our lives as witnesses unto the world.
Also, it seems Watcher2013 is looking for loopholes to justify having more than one wife. I see in his profile he is married. Perhaps he should ask his wife what she thinks about it.
I agree with your interpretation that if someone wants to be a deacon/teacher paul said must have one wife. So do you suggest that those who do not one to teach are allowed to have multiple wives?
Actually this is not even a debate if you are only for the truth.
Well my wife believes that biblically man can have many wives. But she's enough for me.
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You conveniently forgot to address the part of my response that said you keep starting threads with a controversial question of which you evidently are already convinced you knows the answer. Why do you keep stirring up debates, something we are told in the Word not to do:
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
You lure people in with your foolish questions about the law only to contend with them as if your interpretation is the correct one.
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
You lure people in with your foolish questions about the law only to contend with them as if your interpretation is the correct one.